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Iberia With A340-500 To EZE?

Argentina From Argentina, joined Aug 2000, 372 posts, RR: 13
Posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6417 times:

I have seen on GDS that IB has scheduled some flights MAD-EZE-MAD with A345

For instance:

IB6844 30-OCT
IB6842 04-NOV
IB6844 06-NOV
IB6842 08-NOV

And many more.

As far as I know, IB has no A345 in the fleet. Are A345 from other airline?

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LH459 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 886 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6335 times:

Quoting Argentina (Thread starter):
IB6844 30-OCT

I just checked the seat map for that flight, which showed the same configuration as on the A340-600 operating IB6842, except for a slightly smaller J class cabin. It is physically impossible for an A340-500 to have as many rows as an A340-600, so my theory is that IB uses the 345 code to designate a sub-type in the 346 fleet with a smaller J cabin.

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Nclmedic From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6324 times:

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I would imagine that this is just an error as I'm 99.9% certain Iberia haven't acquired any A345's, nor are planning on it! These flights are all scheduled to be operated by the A346, but obviously might be subbed at various times with an A343!

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LipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11230 posts, RR: 61
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6322 times:

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Quoting LH459 (Reply 1):
I just checked the seat map for that flight, which showed the same configuration as on the A340-600 operating IB6842, except for a slightly smaller J class cabin. It is physically impossible for an A340-500 to have as many rows as an A340-600, so my theory is that IB uses the 345 code to designate a sub-type in the 346 fleet with a smaller J cabin.

Iberia just said in Brazil that a new and small Business cabin (in terms of seats) will replace the current one. Will have 6 less seats on both A346 and A343 so it could be the case of a new designation only as you mentioned.

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FoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2816 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6188 times:

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 3):

According to a thread on another website (rhymes with "tire hawk"), IB is removing rows of business class in order to have fully flat seats. In reservation systems the A340-300s in the new configuration are designated as "342", and the -600s as "345". I see, for example, that some flights to JFK later this year are listed as 342 and 345.

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Kelual From Spain, joined Jul 2008, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6165 times:

IB will reconfig its J cabins to make the lie flat (Existing) into a full flat.

Existing version A340-600 54J (A346)
A340-300 42J (A343)

Ner version A340-600 42J (A345 Provisional until end reconfig March 2010)
A340-300 36J (A342 Provisional until end reconfig March 2010)

Hope this will help you...

[Edited 2009-10-28 14:11:20]

Argentina From Argentina, joined Aug 2000, 372 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6016 times:

Thanks to everyone for the clarification!

CRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2081 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6001 times:

How many Y seats will they add?

IB's A346 have 350 seats or so... does that incur significant range penalty?

Airbus said the A346 could fly 14,000 km with 380 seats, but that cannot be true?

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FoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2816 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5964 times:

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 7):
How many Y seats will they add?

As I understand it, they will not be adding any Y seats. They are just re-spacing the J seats in the existing J cabins in order to increase pitch and have full flat seats.

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MogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5954 times:

well it's not like IB needs it on some nut-case ULR mission anyway

if CX can jam pack a 346 from JFK-HKG nonstop, I don't see how IB would incur any problems with their route network. Heck, MAD-EZE is even shorter than SFO-HKG

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 7):

IB's A346 have 350 seats or so... does that incur significant range penalty?

Airbus said the A346 could fly 14,000 km with 380 seats, but that cannot be true?

Icaro From Spain, joined Nov 2004, 226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5865 times:

A346 go from 52J 300Y to 42J 300Y
A343 go from 42J 218Y to 36J 218Y

Now all J seats except 6 on the A343's are full flat 180º.

Hope it helps

LipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11230 posts, RR: 61
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5602 times:

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Quoting Kelual (Reply 5):
Ner version A340-600 42J (A345 Provisional until end reconfig March 2010)
A340-300 36J (A342 Provisional until end reconfig March 2010)

So we can believe IB will try to charge a premium now on their Business Class as they are going on the opposite direction (airlines used to change from fully flat to lie flat in order to allow more seats to be added to the cabins) of other airlines.

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