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Flying Domestic In The US Is Not Cheap!  
User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2558 times:

The cheapest fare I could find on the web, for a return flight ORD-JFK between August 15th and 26th was GBP 175!! (US$ 251!) That's with United.

If anyone finds a cheaper fare for the above dates, could you please let me know? I think Delta are charging the same (where's the competition!? Big grin )

I'm looking for a non-stop service.

Not very cheap is it!!? I wish JetBlue would fly the route!

Cheers,
CP

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User currently offlineTxAgKuwait From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1803 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2498 times:

Well, if you were able to fly Chicago Midway to Islip/Long Island you could go via WN for $92 each way on the dates in question.

User currently offlineAV8N2 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2485 times:

Just be happy deregulation occured...the price before would have been about $1200!


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2483 times:

Thats actually a pretty good deal. I'd advise you to jump on it before prices go up.

User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2478 times:

Sorry, didn't mean to sound critical; I've just got too used to flying no-frills here in the UK!

TxAgKuwait,

Firstly, what is your username all about? and secondly, you're a star!!!!

That Southwest deal suits me just fine!! What a bargain!
I'm flying with We're Nuts.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Rgds and thanks,
CP

ps-I am spending my summer in America, needed a bit of help on that specific route.

B747-437B,

You're probably right actually, having looked at the distances involved, I realise it's not just a hop. Living on a small island doesn't really help in appreciating different scales of distance!


User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2468 times:

Considering that it is about 1400 miles roundtrip, I'd take it. The cost is about 5.5 cents/mile for you, which is great.

User currently offlinePhilB From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2466 times:

That's a 1478 nm round trip - at 11.84p UK per mile. Very cheap by today's short haul, major carrier, prices.

By co-incidence I was arranging a trip from MAN-SNN for relatives last night for very similar dates. This is a 546 mile round trip. The cheapest non stop is BA @ £UK140 per person, i.e. 25.64pUK per mile and Aer Lingus, with a change in Dublin, want £UK188 per person or 34.43pUK per mile - these are listed as Promotional Fares.

Two years ago Aer Lingus offered 2 for 1 fares on all UK-Ireland routes but, since joining One World they have been learning from BA asnd have dropped these- to the detriment of their long term customers and the glee of Ryanair who are picking up customers hand over fist.

Hopefully they will start more routes out of SNN soon.



User currently offlineFlybp From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 34 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2423 times:

i stated this in another posting. if you are west or northwest of nyc, and if you can handle a drive to lehigh valley airport, you'll get a cheap direct flight on pan am from sanford fl.

User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4514 posts, RR: 34
Reply 8, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2421 times:

No, flying domestic in the USA is not cheap. The six major oligopoly carriers or "Six Families" keep flying here much more expensive than it needs to be. Unless you're one of the Blessed 58 cities that has Southwest Airlines to hold them accountable. Other low-fare carriers can offer relief on individual routes, but generally only Southwest can effect a broad-based reduction in fares at a US city.

Now that we've had 10 years of management gouging us with unreasonably high fares to pay for excessively high shareholder expectations (and no one big enough to hold them accountable outside the Blessed 58) it promises to get worse. The employee unions seem to think they're entitled to massive raises that would get the remaining 99 percent of Americans laughed at.

But the market won't bear it, so their "charge of the light brigade" is pyhrric. The economy's softening. And the low-fare carriers keep growing....at least until superconsolidation happens and then maybe the oligopoly can destroy them. Time will tell.

Jim



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User currently offlineWolfpacker From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 354 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2412 times:

JFK is an expensive airport to fly to. You should try ORD-LGA, between AA and UA there is a flight every 15 minutes all day. Fare is about $200 roundtrip, which i consider a deal.

User currently offlineBove From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2398 times:

JFK is suprisingly more expensive than the closer-in LGA because there are only a few flights a day from JFK, many of them reserved for intl transfer pax.

User currently offlineSJC>SFO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2387 times:

You should keep in mind that Islip is pretty far out of the way of NYC. Its going to cost you a bunch to take a taxi out there, if you can get one to do it in the first place. Id really stick with LGA-ORD. LGA is much much closer to downtown NYC, and think about its this way. LGA-ORD is about $200+tax (majors)
Islip-MDW is about $185+tax (southwest)
but i garuntee you its gonna cost more than 15 bucks to go all the way to Islip, and its gonna be alot of extra time added to your trip. I would highly recommend taking the LGA-ORD


User currently offlineAfitch7881 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 816 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2375 times:

Flying in the US can be very cheap. I have to fly between Phoenix and Hartford 8-10 times a year and I have never paid more than $250 and this was on NW and CO, not SW. My friend has flown BDL-PHX for $108 round trip before taxes. It all depends on the time of year, and cities involved!

Eric



User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2374 times:

SJC,

Thanks for the info; haven't made my mind up yet, it depends in which order I will visit these cities in; I'm still organizing the whole thing, but the general plan is to start off in Boston, and fly my way round the US's major cities, in a clockwise fashion.

As far as Islip goes, according to the WN website, the train to Penn station in NY (from Islip) takes about 1 hour 30. I don't actually mind flying into secondary airfields (I've done it enough times with Ryanair in Europe), and I particularly enjoy taking the train in the US-I had a great experience travelling from NYC to Boston last month.

The fare WN quoted me was US$103. I actually only want to go one-way, but the majors charge more for one-way only, so that is why I was initially asking for round-trip fares-I would simply throw away the return portion.

However, thankfully WN don't play that game, which is why I am probably going to stick with them.

However, I will bear the ORD-LGA option in mind, as I may be short of time nearer the end of the summer.

Thanks for all your inputs. This is going to be an unforgettable summer (barring delays & strikes by disgruntled employees! Big grin )

Cheers,
CP


User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2358 times:

There is a fare of $145 one-way on ATA LGA-MDW Aug. 15. If you really wanted a low fare, AirTran has a one-stop flight LGA-PIT-MDW for $122.50 with tax. The flights you can take are flights 1501(To leave in the morning) and 1505(To leave in the Afternoon). Both flights are currently listed as the brand-new 717.

PS: Isn't NYC-MDW going counter-clockwise?

PPS: Don't forget my hometown of PHL! We have the Liberty Bell, Franklin Institute(If you are bringing any young ones), South Street(For a happening nightlife), Independence Hall, etc.


User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2353 times:

Gosh, what a great medium of information this site can be!

Thanks for your info too Lowfareair.

Actually, I'm after a one-way from the Chicago area to NY, as this will be one of the concluding segments I will take.

Plan is to go South along the Atlantic seaboard from BOS, via Philly (as you have mentioned), then Atlanta, Fort Lauderdale, Houston, Denver, Phoenix, San Francisco, Seattle, Chicago & then NY.

Those cities will be reached by air. I'm hoping to branch out from there, by ground transport (AMTRAK & Greyhound) to nearby cities (Dallas, Miami, Washingon, Las Vegas etc.)

I know it's expensive, but I've been saving up for this trip for a long time; I have some (scottish!!) relatives in Washington & Dallas in any case, and my parents are, of course, helping me out financially.

The AirTran deal doesn't look to bad, but I'm keen to try Southwest in any case!

Thanks again for all the info;

Rgds,
CP


User currently offlineAAmericanguy From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2325 times:

Capt.Picard,

I hope you like it here in Phoenix, I think you'll find it's a wonderful city. Also, If you enjoy flying on Southwest, I'm almost positive you can find a flight to Phoenix from any of their destinations. (PHX is their #1 city in the system) Have a nice trip!

Sincerely,
AAmericanguy


User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7801 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2296 times:

Going to AZ in the summer... good luck to you!  Laugh out loud It is the best way to experience it. Phoenix is a good city, its my other home. But there is really only so much to do there. The Art Musuem is pretty good, you should go to a ballgame at BOB, but then otherwise get out of the city and see the variety that Arizona has to offer. It is a helluva lot more than just catcus and tumbleweed! If you are going to go anywhere outside of Phoenix you have to go to Sedona, make a stop at Montezuma Castle on the way up... and then spend a day in Flagstaff where it will be quite cool. I'd also reccomend coming down to Tucson, where coincedentially I live, and take it some of the great hiking we have down here in Southern Arizona and REALLY good Mexican food. Plus since you are an aviation enthusiaist make it out to the Pima Air Musuem at Davis-Monthan AFB.

Hopefully you will find cheap airfare to PHX.



Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
User currently offlineDiz From New Zealand, joined May 2001, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2295 times:

Don't see what the fuss is about!

I'm off to Raleigh next week, flying Northwest all the way (other than the Pacific crossing-QF). On the way over, going to stop in Memphis for 2 days to catch up with friends there, and return.. from Raleigh to LAX. Total of $381.

Thats a little over $950NZ. A flight last week from Christchurch to Auckland return on Air New Zealand ran me $980NZ. To compare, that is a one hour flight each way.

Admittidly, they were in different classes.. however I booked both the same time ahead, I'm sure the CHC-AKL route is more conjested, and yes. there are some fares on Northwest that run up to the $1000US mark, however you get a lot more flying that that Air New Zealand 737 up to Auckland.

Fare like that with a 14 day advance are nothing to complain about, and that isn't a discount carrier. For price comparisons, not even bringing in the differences in cost of living which makes the airfare even more expensive than the US flight.

Apples to Oranges perhaps, but at the end of the day.. its all money we are trying to save (or your company is trying to save).


User currently offlineWatewate From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 2284 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2291 times:

With a bit of luck and being suckered into airline restrictions (7, 14 day advance, Saturday stay, etc.) you can find decent fares pretty much anytime if you ask me. I can fly YYZ-LAX/SFO/SJC now for $200 US. That's a 5hr + flight we're talking about.

User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2254 times:

AirTran's deals are pretty good. And if you want business class, you can buy a coach ticket and upgrade to business class for $25 when you check in at the airport. And let me tell you, the business class in the 717 is not bad at all. It's one of the only low-fare airlines that offers business class, and to upgrade is not a bad price either. I haven't hade the chance to fly Southwest (the nearest airport they fly out of is 2 hours away), mainly because I always fly non-rev. Now if I actually had to buy a ticket to somewhere like the west coast, I'd fly AirTran to one of the cities Southwest flies to and hop on them from there.

User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2251 times:

Thanks again for all your advice.

Upgrading for US$25!! I might give that a go....and I'd love to fly the B717-what a holiday I'm going to have!!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Rgds,
CP


User currently offlineBoeingrulz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 481 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2232 times:
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When you drop by Seattle, welcome. We have a beautiful city here, The Puget Sound has a wealth of physical beauty with mountains and sea, as well as large fresh-water lakes.

There are three locations to see Boeing planes, fresh from the factory; At Renton Municipal Airport (RNT), near where I live and home to the narrow body manufacture facility; At Boeing Field (King County Airport, BFI), home of flight test and narrow body delivery; and at Everett (Snohomish County/Paine Field, PAE), home of widebody manufacture and Delivary.

The Museum of Flight at Boeing Field, is a great museum, especially the "Red Barn" which has lots of old wooden airplane parts and tools. The Factory Tour at Everett is also a must-see for the airplane enthrusiast.

BTW, Captain Picard, I was also born in Angola, in Huambo Province near Lepi and Longonjo.


Carolyn


User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2224 times:

Boeingrulz,

Firstly, Seattle was one of the very first cities on the "must see" list-as you mentioned, I'm after scenery (the Cascades, Puget Sound, Starbucks, Boeing  Smile/happy/getting dizzy , Mt.Olympus and, of course, Frasier.

Secondly, what a small world we live in! I haven't been out of Luanda really, and have been advised not to bother?! Huambo (in Huambo province) is allegedly a UNITA stronghold at the moment. Apparently the Portuguese set up shop there in 1913, and named it Nova Lisboa;amongst other things, it was set up as a major hub in the railway network they were setting up there, at the time (the Benguela railway).

I would love to "go explore", alas it's probably not a good idea at the moment. BTW, voce fala portugues?

I was born in Brazil, so "no worrys" as far as the local lingo is concerned.

Thanks for the info, (obrigado por sua informacao) (I hope that makes sense!!)

Rgds,
CP



User currently offlineBoeingrulz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 481 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2213 times:
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I have many "saudades" for Angola, but my Portugese is not very good. I havn't spoken since 15, and I am almost 40 now. We fled Angola, not quite literally chased by UNITA rebels, and never went back. My dad's parents went to Angola as missionaries in 1932 and Angola was our true home, and it remain so, in our hearts.

Sometime when war ends, and mines are cleared, it would be great to visit central Angola again, but it would be very dangerous now, as I hear.

Glad to hear you are able to take a sweeping tour of the US. This is a great country, impressive in almost every way.

adeus, or chao to your Brazilians,
Carolyn



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