Jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 9051 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 42088 times:
The FIRST Class cabin looks exactly as one on the 77W. I was expecting a SUITE of some type since they only have 9. With a new flagship AF should do something innovative like when Singapore Airlines intoduced their A380's.
Not until at least the fifth frame from the factory. The first four frames will have it retrofitted by AF sometime in the future.
Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 5): The FIRST Class cabin looks exactly as one on the 77W.
While I have never tried it (I'm a Star Alliance man), AF's current First Class product has always looked impressive to me, especially for couples flying together in the center section.
Quoting ClubWorld1986 (Reply 1): So they've picked up the interior of one of their 77W and plonked it in the A380?
AF was unable to install Premium Voyageur on their first four A380's due to Airbus requiring that the planes be outfitted as originally planned. So I wonder if this means AF also had to go with their current First Class (La Première) and Business Class (Affaires) product on their first four birds?
It also might be a case of AF desiring to have a more consistent product across their fleet, as opposed to having different ones on different planes. As a frequent SQ flyer, I know what to expect depending on what SQ airframe I am on (and try and book accordingly), but for a person who only flies the airline infrequently, it might be confusing to have different premium cabins on the A388, the 77W, the 744 and the 77E/773.
Luftfahrer From Germany, joined Mar 2009, 1089 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 41643 times:
So far the least impressive A380 cabin. I like the Economy section due to the nice seat cloth and the agreeable PTV size for a European carrier. AF's flight prices in Eco are often among the cheapest (especially Europe - North America), so this is going to be good a value for the money.
Business looks rather disappointing. I also thought it was more reminiscent of a (premium) Economy cabin.
The 'museum'... well, a desperate attempt to keep up with EK's and SQ's exquisite lounges?
Anyway, I didn't expect them to set the milestone in terms of cabin layout and quality. We are probably too spoilt by the A380s already flying...
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747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2419 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 41599 times:
The AF A380 Business class picture (2-2-2) gives me a very unpleasant, crowded feeling. I wouldn't spend the extra money for that class on this aircraft, but would prefer the 747 upper-deck business class (only 2-2).
A museum !!!!!!!!
Operating a twin over the ocean, you're always one engine failure from a total emergency.
What are people expecting - its an aircraft - not a five star hotel. It will be flown on high density routes, not the highest revenue generating routes.
If I had paid a premium fare, I'd expect the airline to put a bit more effort into the ambience, lighting, materials and design of the cabin. Peoples' tastes are individual, but at least QF, SQ and EK tried, AF seem to have not bothered.
P seats are the same as in the AF T7 but with new specific fabric, much more individual space as you have only 9 seats between the two first doors and the A380 is wider than the B777 on the main deck. For those who are claustrophobic, AF P cabin is a great alternative to the closed capsule suites.
No middle seats in J as it is located on the upper deck and much wider screen.
Y seats are actually wider than the one on the T7 ! that is a good news. They look indeed quite comfortable and the PTV screen is much bigger !
I agree, i thought it was their premium economy or something,
The whole cabin layout is pretty disappointing considering it's their flagship product. They should have pulled something special like SQ and really made the A380 interior something special. Right now the whole thing just looks cramped
Mindscape From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 41027 times:
Quoting Slinky09 (Reply 15): If I had paid a premium fare, I'd expect the airline to put a bit more effort into the ambience, lighting, materials and design of the cabin. Peoples' tastes are individual, but at least QF, SQ and EK tried, AF seem to have not bothered.
Not true, if you had bothered to search for more info you would have seen their process to design something specific for the A380 while keeping a consistent product with the rest of their fleet. Now that you don't like their hard product is another story.
Quoting 747classic (Reply 14): The AF A380 Business class picture (2-2-2) gives me a very unpleasant, crowded feeling.
Quoting EI320 (Reply 2): I personally think the Business cabin looks awful, far too dense.
Nclmedic From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 349 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 40914 times:
I'd agree with most of your responses above - pretty shoddy for AF. It is nice that in the economy section the window seats are all in pairs which is something. But the business cabin looks absolutely dire! Seriously wasted opportunity.
EPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 5452 posts, RR: 40
Reply 24, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 40607 times:
Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 12): Anyway, I didn't expect them to set the milestone in terms of cabin layout and quality. We are probably too spoilt by the A380s already flying...
I guess we are. But AF were never going to make a big jump with the interior of the A380, at least they never announced it if I recall correctly. (Or I missed that announcement ).
Quoting Cschleic (Reply 22): Quoting BestWestern (Reply 9):
It will be flown on high density routes, not the highest revenue generating routes.
Exactly....if it's only flying CDG - JFK, then it's similar in concept to a 747 over a 707. More seats in one plane.
So far they have the highest seat count on any A380, which is in accordance with what you stated. But I still would not call this layout cramped, also not in the Business Class section. I think the interior will suit AF just fine for now.
: Well to be fair, QF's Business Class on the A388 does not appear to be any different than their 747s. And the First Class suite, while nicer than wha
: Precisely. The good thing is there is more space for everyone - even down the back. The seats are wider in the A380, and you do notice it. It just ma
: What I notice on these pics is that AF always chose very dark colors for their cabin fitting and it's applicable to it entire fleet. Too bad because,
: While there isn't a major revamp of the cabin features on AF's A380, I think there are many little design tweaks that are clever and effective. The pi
: The arrival at CDG video on the AF website starts with the date 30 Novembre 2009! D'OH
: I personally love AF's new cabin interiors - minimal and fuss free is right up my street! Not sure what the inflight 'museums' are about though! Much
: I don't agree there. The Singapore Airlines 380 Business suites (seats) are much wider than those on the 777-300ERs. You can easily fit two like me i
: a suite, a suite... please, please, please, I want to sit in a phone booth aboard a flying tube. sheesh!
: The cabin looks very boring. I was expecting something more impressive.