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Two Air Canada A320s En Route YYZ-ABQ  
User currently offlineABQ747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 855 posts, RR: 1
Posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6444 times:

I was looking on Flightaware, and noticed that two AC A320s are heading from YYZ to ABQ. Does any one know the story behind this?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...2/history/20091101/1150Z/CYYZ/KABQ
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...4/history/20091101/1205Z/CYYZ/KABQ

[Edited 2009-11-01 03:56:04]


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User currently offlineAC_B777 From Canada, joined Aug 2000, 809 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6344 times:

From what I could see from our OPS site, they are ferrying to ABQ for maintenance.
AC7052 is C-FGYS and AC7054 is C-FKPT.



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User currently offlineABQ747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 855 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5861 times:

AC also sent a B763ER down to ABQ. Do you have the registration number for that one?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...6/history/20091101/1614Z/CYYZ/KABQ



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User currently offlineAC_B777 From Canada, joined Aug 2000, 809 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5817 times:

The 763 reg was C-GHLU, also for MTC.


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User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3088 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5759 times:

They ended up going to Roswell,

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...2/history/20091101/1700Z/KABQ/KROW

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...4/history/20091101/1721Z/KABQ/KROW



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26021 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5649 times:



Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 4):
They ended up going to Roswell,

They may have stopped at ABQ to clear customs.


User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5305 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5524 times:



Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 4):
They ended up going to Roswell,

Roswell? Modern A320's? The B767 I can understand, that workhorse had it after so many years. Is this confirmed that A320's are being parked?


User currently offlineFalcon flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5484 times:



Quoting KL911 (Reply 6):
Roswell? Modern A320's? The B767 I can understand, that workhorse had it after so many years. Is this confirmed that A320's are being parked?

Not that surprising really, excess passenger and cargo capacity caused by the global economic meltdown. A Jet Airways B777-300 was recently ferried to Marana for storage as well as some factory fresh B777 Freighters. It doesn't necessarily have to do with age.



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User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5305 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5453 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 5):
They may have stopped at ABQ to clear customs.

Interesting question. And most likely expensive for AC. Why don't they store it in Canada itself? ( in the north that is) Isn't polar air as dry as desert air?


User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13551 posts, RR: 100
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5385 times:
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Quoting KL911 (Reply 8):
Interesting question. And most likely expensive for AC. Why don't they store it in Canada itself? ( in the north that is) Isn't polar air as dry as desert air?

Freeze-thaw is hard on aircraft. Storing under those conditions does not allow 'stopping the clock' on certain maintenance operations. Besides, the storage yards of the US southwest have the experience to prepare aircraft for long term storage. There is a reason they dominate the storage market.

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User currently offlineABQ747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 855 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5348 times:



Quoting KL911 (Reply 6):
Roswell? Modern A320's? The B767 I can understand, that workhorse had it after so many years. Is this confirmed that A320's are being parked?

Most likely, these aircraft are heading to the paint shop in ROW. All three of these aircraft are in Air Canada's old livery.



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5275 times:



Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 9):
Freeze-thaw is hard on aircraft. Storing under those conditions does not allow 'stopping the clock' on certain maintenance operations. Besides, the storage yards of the US southwest have the experience to prepare aircraft for long term storage. There is a reason they dominate the storage market.

Lightsaber

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User currently offlineFX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4882 times:



Quoting KL911 (Reply 6):
Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 4):
They ended up going to Roswell,

Roswell? Modern A320's? The B767 I can understand, that workhorse had it after so many years. Is this confirmed that A320's are being parked?

Who says that they are going to ROW for storage and not just MX or paint. NW planes come here to VCV all the time to get painted DL.

FX1816


User currently offlineACElite From Canada, joined Oct 2009, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4598 times:

I gotta assume they are going for paint... AC isn't sending any 320's to rest anytime soon..

User currently offlineMEL From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 1100 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4435 times:

On a side note, C-GHLU is one of the crew rest-fitted, low density 763s. With Vancouver-Shanghai switching to 77W for the winter season, it means 1 less route for the crew rest 763s to be used... for the routes they were intended for. Vancouver-Beijing (also 77W for the winter) was also operated by low density 763s last winter, although not exclusively.


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User currently offlineNwarooster From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1159 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4199 times:
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According to Aerotransport.Org, these three aircraft were put into storage at Roswell.  old 


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User currently offlineBeechnut From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 731 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2910 times:



Quoting KL911 (Reply 6):
Roswell? Modern A320's? The B767 I can understand, that workhorse had it after so many years. Is this confirmed that A320's are being parked?

Air Canada's oldest A320s were built in 1990, 19 years ago. It's newest 767 was built in 2001, 8 years ago.

Your point is?

Beech


User currently offlineABQopsHP From United States of America, joined May 2006, 863 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2832 times:

When HP was still around, the company would send a/c down there for paint work, as well as over to AMA. With the merger, the original commercials were shot at ROW, since then I have not noticed any US a/c going into ROW, but to DHN instead. YV used to send a/c down there as well. The crew would come back thru ABQ to PHX, deadheading after they would drop off an a/c.
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User currently offlineSunriseValley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 5225 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2717 times:



Quoting Nwarooster (Reply 15):
According to Aerotransport.Org, these three aircraft were put into storage at Roswell. old

I am under the impression that AC have been returning A320's to the leesor for quite some period of time. Perhaps this is where the leesor wanted them returned to. Whether this applies to a 763 I don't know.


User currently offlineAC_B777 From Canada, joined Aug 2000, 809 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2548 times:

As I mentioned in my other posts, our operations site was showing these a/c going for maintenance...not for storage or returning to lessors.
As another post mentioned, all these a/c are in the old colors, so who's to say they are not getting repainted into the new colors.



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2534 times:



Quoting AC_B777 (Reply 19):
As another post mentioned, all these a/c are in the old colors, so who's to say they are not getting repainted into the new colors.

A tube of Winter Mint Air Canada toothpaste, anyone  Wink



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