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Easy To Israel: EasyJet Open LTN-TLV Route  
User currently offlineEL-AL From Israel, joined Oct 2001, 1350 posts, RR: 13
Posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7725 times:

EasyJet opened this week its longest route, from London-Luton to Tel Aviv Ben Gurion using Airbus A320. This is Easyjet first route to Israel.

Easyjet will fly 6 flights a week, roundtrip, and will join the other regular airlines on the Tel Aviv - London route: El Al, British Airways and British Midland (bmi).

http://www.easyjet.com/en/book/new_route_london_luton_tel_aviv.html


"In Israel, on order to be a realist, one's must believe in miracles" - David Ben Gurion.
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User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3048 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7671 times:

Apprently the route has been a great success and payloads for the first few weeks are in-excess of 90% according to other websites...

The El-Al service has been downgraded from 767-200/300s as expected to a 757-200 due to the winter season... Apparently this was expected even before the easyJet service was introduced. It seems both services maybe able to co-exist, and service two different markets.

When El-Al launched from Luton it was always expected it would be operated by a 737-800, but due to demand was immediately upgraded to the 767.

Who would have thought a year ago Luton would have had a service to Tel-Aviv, and not it has 12 flights a week, offering nearly 600 seats a day on the route!

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
EasyJet opened this week its longest route, from London-Luton to Tel Aviv Ben Gurion using Airbus A320.

This route has a block time of 5hr 5mins outbound and 5hr 40mins onbound, but the new Sharm-El-Sheikh service starting around the same time has the slight edge... LTN to SSH has a block time of 5hr 20mins outbound and 5hr 50mins inbound.

Two A320's flew into LTN this week to be based there to fly these routes, with one designated to the TLV route and the other to service the new PFO and SSH routes. All of these flights leave LTN around 11-11.30am, and operate a short route in the morning to Europe or Scotland before flying to the above destinations.

[Edited 2009-11-05 12:40:09 by gilesdavies]

User currently offlineMIgAiR54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1856 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7643 times:

Very good news

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
EasyJet opened this week its longest route

I think SSH and Hurghada are longer than TLV,


User currently offlineBestwestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7265 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7222 times:

El Al 767-200 Delivered 1984

EasyJet A320 Delivered 2009



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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3966 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6117 times:



Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 1):
and not it has 12 flights a week, offering nearly 600 seats a day on the route!

Is it 600-per-day just from Luton?!


User currently offlineJU068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2763 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6092 times:
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What about other airlines, like BA?
What kind of service does El Al offer, and what is the difference in price between the two?
I mean if El Al has a superior product and is more comfortable, and the price is not that different people might chose them for such a long flight...

Are there any other low-cost in TLV?


User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5260 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6069 times:

Now just Ryanair and it will be my day!!

People should, and are, realizing the beauty of this pearl, combining the red sea with the mediteranian and all historical places.

Good luck to Easy, hope you do well and bring the average fares down!


User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5911 times:



Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 1):
Who would have thought a year ago Luton would have had a service to Tel-Aviv

Weren't TOM flying LTN-TLV a year ago?



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User currently offlineEL-AL From Israel, joined Oct 2001, 1350 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5816 times:



Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 1):
The El-Al service has been downgraded from 767-200/300s as expected to a 757-200 due to the winter season...

I believe LY will use B738, because there is only one B752 left in LY fleet, the rest are in Sun D'or service. One B762 moved to storage last week in TLV, 4X-EAC (built 1983).

Quoting MIgAiR54 (Reply 2):
I think SSH and Hurghada are longer than TLV,

I read somewhere that TLV is EasyJet's longest route, but if they fly to Sinai and Egypt, those lines a longer. Not a pleasure to spend 4.5+ hours in A320 anyway.

Quoting JU068 (Reply 5):
What kind of service does El Al offer, and what is the difference in price between the two?
I mean if El Al has a superior product and is more comfortable, and the price is not that different people might chose them for such a long flight...

El Al fly twice a day to LHR if I am not mistaken, and once (a day) to Luton. LY's morning flight to London, LY315, is one of El Al's most popular lines, operated always with B777 or B744. I flew this flight in 1998, for my first visit to Europe, with B742.

About the service, El Al offer everything that you expect from non-charter flight, like full meal, good legroom, entertainment etc. I wrote TR about my El Al flights to Italy a month ago, you can take a look and to get an impression of El Al European flights product: EL-AL At It's Best: TLV-MXP, FCO-TLV (+pics) (by EL-AL Oct 12 2009 in Trip Reports)

Quoting JU068 (Reply 5):
Are there any other low-cost in TLV?

Yep: Corsair, TUI, Jetair, Hapag, Wind get, Air Berlin, Thomas cook, Blue Panorama, Air Europa, Bulgarian Air Charter, Wizzair, Axis, Neos, Eurofly, Air VIA, Liningston and bunch of Turkish Airlines: Sky, Onur Air, Corendon, IZair, Pegasus, Tailwind, Free Bird, Turkuas. That's all I remember now; those in addition to the Israeli airlines: Arkia, Israir & Sun D'or.

El Al is offering since last summer something like a low cost flights, they call it "El Al basic": http://www.elal.co.il/elal/english/a...eyourflight/en_economy_basic230709



"In Israel, on order to be a realist, one's must believe in miracles" - David Ben Gurion.
User currently offlinePensacolaguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 548 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 5722 times:

WOW! Go Easyjet
Service will do great - offering such cheap fares..
I just did a quick check Depart-March 8th Return-March 10th

Easyjet won -- $208 USD RT
El Al -- $686 and up USD RT
BMI -- $1,634 USD RT
British Airways -- $1,642 USD RT

Why is there only one flight? Why not operated 7 days a week (Daily)?


User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2399 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5621 times:
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Easy is cheap.

But what I do wonder is how the Israeli pax react to the buy-on-board concept ??

They tend to be quite demanding and ask for everything. From my experience they are quite reluctant to paying for food and drinks.

Another question about catering: are there KSML available for purchase ?



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User currently offlineMIgAiR54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1856 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5530 times:



Quoting Flying Belgian (Reply 10):
But what I do wonder is how the Israeli pax react to the buy-on-board concept ??

Have you seen the prize above???

If you are saving 478$ just with the ticket I´m quite sure they will react very good to the concept.......

I think that Easyjet will add more freqs and new destintation to TLV,

Are they able to operate GVA-TLV, CDG-TLV, MXP-TLV and MAD-TLV??? I,m not sure if Israel has openskies with Europe.


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19246 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5514 times:



Quoting MIgAiR54 (Reply 11):
Are they able to operate GVA-TLV, CDG-TLV, MXP-TLV and MAD-TLV??? I,m not sure if Israel has openskies with Europe.

Israel does not yet have open skies with the EU, but this is developing. Until it happens, EZY can only fly to TLV from the UK and Switzerland.



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User currently offlineJU068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2763 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5512 times:
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But then again that is probably not the cheapest option, I mean no airline is crazy enough to charge 478 dolars more than it's competition!
I am just sceptical about such a long flight in such a plane, I assume that the legroom is not that great. Do they have tv's in easyjet?


Talking of Easyjet, they are the first airline (excluding CY) to operate out of the new terminal at LCA. They start their operations on the 11th, where as the rest of them start on the 17th.


User currently offlineAsoRock From Bahrain, joined May 2006, 322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5484 times:

I wonder when EasyJet or any other European airline for that matter would add low-cost flights to Beirut. There is certainly a market for low-fare flights on the BEY-London/Paris/Madrid/Rome/Frankfurt segments!

User currently offlineMIgAiR54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1856 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5375 times:



Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 12):
EZY can only fly to TLV from the UK and Switzerland.

So we could see GVA-TLV....

Quoting AsoRock (Reply 14):
I wonder when EasyJet or any other European airline for that matter would add low-cost flights to Beirut. There is certainly a market for low-fare flights on the BEY-London/Paris/Madrid/Rome/Frankfurt segments!

Maybe the problem is the bilateral between countries, if they don´t have open skies, the process is more difficul.

I think MAD will be serve soon by IB. BEY-CDG is very difficul market with MEA and AF already offering multiple flights a day.

Quoting JU068 (Reply 13):
I am just sceptical about such a long flight in such a plane, I assume that the legroom is not that great.

We have example of routes with similar planes all over the world,
DEN-ANC, DEN-SJO by Frontier
SFO-BOS, SFO-NYC, SFO-IAD, SFO-FLL by Virgin America
MAD-MOW, MAD-LOS, MAD-TLV by Iberia

Quoting JU068 (Reply 13):
I mean no airline is crazy enough to charge 478 dolars more than it's competition!

Of course not, but they will need to reduce the prize now, because they have more competition.


User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5260 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5297 times:



Quoting Pensacolaguy (Reply 9):
Why is there only one flight? Why not operated 7 days a week (Daily)?

The fly 6x a week.

Most airlines fly 6 daily to TLV due to the Jewish Shabbat, on Saturdays almost the whole country shuts down.


User currently offlineJU068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2763 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5236 times:
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@MIgAiR54

Yeah that is true, but I am sure those planes have extra legroom and are more comfortable than the rest, or am I wrong?


User currently offlineEvomutant From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 510 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5213 times:



Quoting JU068 (Reply 17):
@MIgAiR54

Yeah that is true, but I am sure those planes have extra legroom and are more comfortable than the rest, or am I wrong?

They may do. These are the ex-BA (GB Airways) birds right?


User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3966 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5178 times:

They'll just be regular Easyjet A320 aircraft - no entertainment and standard seatpitch.

User currently offlineCXA330300 From South Africa, joined May 2004, 1568 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (5 years 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5135 times:



Quoting KL911 (Reply 16):


Most airlines fly 6 daily to TLV due to the Jewish Shabbat, on Saturdays almost the whole country shuts down.

Less so in Tel Aviv area...but it is accurate to say that from Friday night to Saturday sunset (the Shabbat), the country is very quiet. However, EasyJet could certainly make some money on Saturday flights-a lot of secular Israelis fly on Shabbat to avoid the Orthodox hordes in the airport and on flights the rest of the week. The BA Saturday flights are quite pricy at times-so EasyJet would have a great opportunity there.



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User currently offlineBasilFawlty From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 1331 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (5 years 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 5082 times:



Quoting JU068 (Reply 13):
I am just sceptical about such a long flight in such a plane, I assume that the legroom is not that great.

Could be worse. Norwegian sends their 186-seat 737-800's all the way to Dubai.  Wink

Quoting JU068 (Reply 13):
Do they have tv's in easyjet?

No tv, no music channels and no reclining seats.



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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (5 years 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 5012 times:



Quoting EL-AL (Reply 8):
Quoting JU068 (Reply 5):
Are there any other low-cost in TLV?

Yep: Corsair, TUI, Jetair, Hapag, Wind get, Air Berlin, Thomas cook, Blue Panorama, Air Europa, Bulgarian Air Charter, Wizzair, Axis, Neos, Eurofly, Air VIA, Liningston and bunch of Turkish Airlines: Sky, Onur Air, Corendon, IZair, Pegasus, Tailwind, Free Bird, Turkuas. That's all I remember now; those in addition to the Israeli airlines: Arkia, Israir & Sun D'or.

Some (most?) of those are charters. In terms of LoCo scheduled service to TLV AFAIK there is Jet 2, Easyjet, Air Berlin and Jetairfly. There may be a couple of others but not many more



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User currently offlineLondonCity From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 1518 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4960 times:



Quoting Pensacolaguy (Reply 9):
WOW! Go Easyjet
Service will do great - offering such cheap fares..
I just did a quick check Depart-March 8th Return-March 10th

Easyjet won -- $208 USD RT
El Al -- $686 and up USD RT
BMI -- $1,634 USD RT
British Airways -- $1,642 USD RT

That's true for March 2010. But check flight prices for travel this month and, chances are, there will not be such a big difference between the carriers (with the exception of BA who tennds to be pricey).


User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (5 years 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4818 times:

If TLV do well, EasyJet could try VDA or AQJ, AMM even BEY, if bi-laterals permitted.


I don't work for COPA Airlines!
25 LY772 : There was a nice report about this on Israeli Channel 10 News last week. It followed the flight from 2 hrs. before takeoff to landing in London. The I
26 KL911 : True, U2 only offers point to point tickets and luggage will not be transfered to another flight. Look for a seperate LTN-AMS ticket.
27 Jamotcx : Thats because easyJet don't interline even with themselves which means you have to make two separate bookings and checkin again in Luton.
28 Post contains links Mikebg : Easyjet announced that there will be Hermolis food available on board to buy. It is kosher, certified by KLBD and Kedassia. Here is the link to their
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