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UAL To Introduce New Uniforms For Frontline  
User currently offlineTu154 From United States, joined Dec 2004, 307 posts, RR: 4
Posted (3 weeks 6 days 18 hours 21 minutes ago) and read 5857 times:

http://us.rd.yahoo.com/finance/indus...om/prnews/091106/cg06633.html?.v=1


Looks like UAL is in a transformation process. Good news!


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User currently offlineFlyboy80 From United States, joined Jul 2001, 1644 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (3 weeks 6 days 17 hours 58 minutes ago) and read 5771 times:

I wonder if they will get new wings....

User currently offlineAzjubilee From United States, joined Apr 2000, 3036 posts, RR: 38
Reply 2, posted (3 weeks 6 days 17 hours 26 minutes ago) and read 5634 times:

Just in time for the merger with CO...

User currently offline4everRC From United States, joined Jul 2003, 304 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (3 weeks 6 days 17 hours 23 minutes ago) and read 5615 times:



Quoting Azjubilee (Reply 2):
Just in time for the merger with CO...

When I saw the headline, my first thought was "How much will they look like CO's uniforms?"


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User currently offlineTu154 From United States, joined Dec 2004, 307 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (3 weeks 6 days 17 hours 17 minutes ago) and read 5565 times:

Also just heard that UAL is also doing a complete makeover of the inflight china, glassware,
and flatware.


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User currently offlineJolau1701 From United States, joined Feb 2009, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 weeks 6 days 17 hours 15 minutes ago) and read 5554 times:

Are ramp, CS, and maintenance also getting new uniforms?

User currently offlineTu154 From United States, joined Dec 2004, 307 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (3 weeks 6 days 17 hours 5 minutes ago) and read 5502 times:



Quoting Jolau1701 (Reply 5):
Are ramp, CS, and maintenance also getting new uniforms?

Flight attendants, pilots, CS, MX and ramp are all getting new uniforms. Roadshows are starting next week to gather employee input and an online survey has been set up to
gather more information and input.

Sounds like UAL is doing it right this time unlike last uniform change with the fa's. We were more or less forced into the current drab uniform. CS has not had a change in many years
so it's nice to see a change company wide.


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States, joined Dec 2003, 23588 posts, RR: 88
Reply 7, posted (3 weeks 6 days 17 hours 1 minute ago) and read 5474 times:

The only current uniform at UA that is kind of nice is the dress they have that some of the female FAs wear. Otherwise, boring.

They could take a hint from LH. Or perhaps DL?


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User currently offlineORDnHKG From United States, joined Jul 2009, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 weeks 6 days 16 hours 59 minutes ago) and read 5480 times:



Quoting Tu154 (Reply 4):
Also just heard that UAL is also doing a complete makeover of the inflight china, glassware,
and flatware.

It is already in the transition, int'l F and C already got the new china, probably you haven't flown UA lately.

Noritake was replaced with Oneida.

User currently offlineTu154 From United States, joined Dec 2004, 307 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (3 weeks 6 days 16 hours 42 minutes ago) and read 5383 times:



Quoting ORDnHKG (Reply 8):
It is already in the transition, int'l F and C already got the new china, probably you haven't flown UA lately.

LOL, I am a UA flight attendant based in FRA, so yes I have flown UA lately.


I realize the china recieved an overhaul in the last few months. Pursers here in FRA have been told to expect a complete overhaul from china to uniforms. The question was asked about our current china and the answer was to expect a complete overhaul of the inflight product.


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User currently offlineJU068 From Serbia, joined Aug 2009, 293 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 weeks 6 days 16 hours 37 minutes ago) and read 5371 times:

So which brand would dissappear? UA or CO?
It would be a shame for either one to go...


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User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States, joined May 2004, 3192 posts, RR: 27
Reply 11, posted (3 weeks 6 days 15 hours 59 minutes ago) and read 5216 times:
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I'm a fan of uniforms ... I'm curious what their uniform will look like.


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User currently offlineTVNWZ From United States, joined Feb 2006, 1587 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 weeks 6 days 15 hours 21 minutes ago) and read 5078 times:



Quoting ORDnHKG (Reply 8):
Noritake was replaced with Oneida.

Downgrade!

User currently offlineP0sitiveRate From United States, joined Oct 2009, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 weeks 6 days 13 hours 26 minutes ago) and read 4825 times:
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Quoting Azjubilee (Reply 2):
Just in time for the merger with CO...



Quoting 4everRC (Reply 3):
When I saw the headline, my first thought was "How much will they look like CO's uniforms?"



Quoting JU068 (Reply 10):
So which brand would dissappear? UA or CO?
It would be a shame for either one to go...

Sheesh am I tired of the merger speculation......why would UA invest hundreds of thousands of dollars on a product transformation if they were on the eve of a merger?

Also, it is going to take an airline to go into bankruptcy before any merger would take place. Once we see one of the two file for bankruptcy, the speculation can actually begin. Until then, we're beating a dead horse


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States, joined Nov 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 48
Reply 14, posted (3 weeks 6 days 13 hours 21 minutes ago) and read 4801 times:

I just hope that they get rid of those sweater jackets. They look so frumpy and unprofessional.


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User currently offlineQqflyboy From United States, joined Oct 2003, 1765 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (3 weeks 6 days 13 hours 11 minutes ago) and read 4746 times:

Yet another new uniform for yet another airline, but not AA. Good for UA. The current AA uniform was introduced 20 years ago, and the company has decided to piece meal something of a "refreshed" uniform with additional pieces, but not a new uniform. Flight attendants, pilots and CSRs have a new flat front pant option available next month. CSRs received new ties a year or so ago and male flight attendants will get new ones at the end of 2010, along with a new striped shirt. Female F/As get a new blouse, striped shirt and "shirt jacket." I just wish, for once, AA wouldn't half ass something and come up with a completely new uniform that is stylish, functional, and that lasts.

Our current uniform has pieces made in Poland and the US, and each is not the same blue. It's obvious when they're worn together and it looks totally tacky. It's well documented on here AA's F/As look disheveled and unprofessional at best. That's due to several reasons, not the least of which involves AA's lack of uniform enforcement along with a uniform that is outdated, uncomfortable and nearly unwearable. Plus, AA cut our uniform allotment in 2003, making it impossible for employees to keep a fresh uniform without digging into their own pockets.


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User currently offlineRamprat74 From United States, joined Dec 2003, 1223 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (3 weeks 6 days 12 hours 56 minutes ago) and read 4681 times:

It's about time. I wouldn't even use the garbage they give us now to dry my car. Even though the company pays for the uniforms. We on the ramp rather spend our own money and buy better stuff from our local stores. Ever since they got rid of Unitog, the quality has gone down hill.

I hope they don't give the ramp the same as CS. Who gives rampers white work shirts?

User currently offlineVC10er From United States, joined Feb 2007, 348 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (3 weeks 6 days 6 hours 47 minutes ago) and read 4177 times:
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With the new F and C on UA, along with a number of better products like p.s. Have UA seen a bump up in their customer satisfaction?
I think the new F and C are really beautiful and comfortable. A giant step forward from where they were.

User currently offlineUnited1 From United States, joined Oct 2003, 3155 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (3 weeks 6 days 5 hours 48 minutes ago) and read 3867 times:



Quoting VC10er (Reply 17):
With the new F and C on UA, along with a number of better products like p.s. Have UA seen a bump up in their customer satisfaction?

A big bump up according to UA...both in customer satisfaction and definite intent to repurchase.


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User currently offlineUnitedFA07 From United States, joined Apr 2009, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 weeks 6 days 5 hours 42 minutes ago) and read 3841 times:
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Quoting ORDnHKG (Reply 8):

I don't care much for the new china, very chunky looking almost like the 70/80's stoneware.

Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 12):

Absolutely nothing wrong with Oneida! I have a beautiful flatware collection by them. Some could say the same about Noritake. When I hear that name I think of "The Price is Right" or "Lets Make a Deal". No Oneida isn't Royal Copenhagen, Wedgewood, Spode, Lenox, or even Royal Doulton with hand painted periwinkles. I would imagine those wouldn't handle too well on a plane, but its still a good brand.
 tongue 

Yes that's the joke going around that the new UA uniforms will be CO, but of course that is nonsense. You seriously think a Designer would put their name on a product that is used just as a farce?! I think not.

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User currently offlineKLASM83 From United States, joined Aug 2005, 275 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 weeks 6 days 5 hours 4 minutes ago) and read 3663 times:



Quoting UnitedFA07 (Reply 19):
Royal Doulton with hand painted periwinkles

I guess they could do that if UA was Keeping Up Appearances.

Kudos to UA for doing this; a fresh look for the company, plus the fact they are gathering employee feedback, hopefully is a sign of better things to come.


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User currently offlineLDVAviation From United States, joined Dec 2008, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 weeks 6 days 4 hours 24 minutes ago) and read 3494 times:

Cynthia Rowley?

I guess Marc Jacobs wanted too much money. Or, he flies American. I did see him board a BA flight once.

Whatever the case, Rowley is not known for her structured silhouettes. This could be one big colorful mess.

User currently offlineOA412 From United States, joined Dec 2000, 2184 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (3 weeks 6 days 3 hours 40 minutes ago) and read 3367 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 14):
They look so frumpy and unprofessional.

A frumpy uniform at a US airline? Perish the thought.  Big grin

Quoting UnitedFA07 (Reply 19):
Royal Doulton with hand painted periwinkles

It's pronounced bouquet!


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User currently offlineVANGUARD737 From United States, joined Aug 2001, 596 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (3 weeks 5 days 21 hours 34 minutes ago) and read 2599 times:



Quoting OA412 (Reply 22):
It's pronounced bouquet!

LOL! At least one person got this reference.  Silly

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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States, joined Oct 2003, 3155 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (3 weeks 5 days 21 hours 15 minutes ago) and read 2525 times:



Quoting VANGUARD737 (Reply 23):

Quoting OA412 (Reply 22):
It's pronounced bouquet!

LOL! At least one person got this reference.  

Take care, Hyacinth!

Don't forget Daisy....shes not the one with a Mercedes and room for a pony... Smile

Well whatever the uniforms will end up being I'm thinking the predominate color may just be blue... Smile Maybe UA will come out with the blue version of DLs red dress...


Semper Fi
User currently offline1stfl94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 838 posts, RR: 1
Reply 25, posted (3 weeks 5 days 20 hours 15 minutes ago) and read 2311 times:



Quoting Qqflyboy (Reply 15):
"shirt jacket."

Sorry for being a fashion dunce but what is 'shirt jacket' supposed to be!

I wonder if UA will get Sheridan to do the needlework Big grin

User currently offlineQqflyboy From United States, joined Oct 2003, 1765 posts, RR: 14
Reply 26, posted (3 weeks 5 days 18 hours 39 minutes ago) and read 2054 times:



Quoting 1stfl94 (Reply 25):
Sorry for being a fashion dunce but what is 'shirt jacket' supposed to be!

Well, don't be so hard on yourself! I don't think such a thing exists much outside the world of uniforms, and I certainly wouldn't put it and fashion in the same sentence!  Smile

Think of a blazer, but with short sleeves and several buttons down the front. It's basically the equivalent of wearing a shirt and blazer all in one. They're very common in the industry, although AA hasn't had one before, or at least not for a very long time.

Follow the link below. It's to UniformFreak.com and Alaska's uniform page. Scroll to the bottom of the page. The image that is at the far left, second row from the bottom is a shirt jacket.

http://www.uniformfreak.com/index2a.html


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User currently offlineAcidradio From United States, joined Mar 2001, 1606 posts, RR: 10
Reply 27, posted (3 weeks 5 days 18 hours 35 minutes ago) and read 2025 times:



Quoting Azjubilee (Reply 2):
Just in time for the merger with CO...

That's almost like when some employers nowadays when they ask an employee right before they are going to be furloughed, "So, how much do you like change?"


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User currently offlineBhmdiversion From United States, joined Dec 2008, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (3 weeks 5 days 17 hours 4 minutes ago) and read 1826 times:

Are there any pictures of the new ramp uniforms????


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User currently offlineQQflyboy From United States, joined Oct 2003, 1765 posts, RR: 14
Reply 29, posted (3 weeks 5 days 15 hours 11 minutes ago) and read 1733 times:



Quoting Bhmdiversion (Reply 28):
Are there any pictures of the new ramp uniforms????

From what it seems they've just entered the design phase and are seeking input from various employee groups about their respective uniforms. It will probably be several months before we see any prototypes.


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User currently offlineRJpieces From United States, joined Nov 2003, 7428 posts, RR: 54
Reply 30, posted (3 weeks 5 days 14 hours 53 minutes ago) and read 1722 times:

I've come to like the current UA F/A uniforms...Nonetheless, if the new ones look anything like Delta's new ones, I will be thrilled!

Great to see United investing in its product. Was there a separate thread about the new F & C china? What else is United currently improving?


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User currently offlineJRDC930 From United States, joined Jan 2007, 901 posts, RR: 0
Reply 31, posted (3 weeks 5 days 14 hours 32 minutes ago) and read 1682 times:
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UAL needs to improve more than just uniforms IMO. Their inflight product leaves much to be desired, especially when compared to international airlines. I think getting flight attendents who dont hate their job and take it out on the customer, would be a better start, than something as useless as new uniforms.


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User currently offlineYXwatcherMKE From United States, joined May 2007, 209 posts, RR: 2
Reply 32, posted (3 weeks 5 days 13 hours 49 minutes ago) and read 1641 times:
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WOW this is the last thing UA management need to worry about. The BOD needs to shake the tree to get rid of the dead wood in the top of the tree. If you know what I mean! Once they get that done and some new management blood infused to UA then and only then they should look at the uniforms.
Fix the other problems and the attitudes will change and the uniforms will stat to look better because the front line staff will have pride in their company again. That will mean they will take care of their uniforms better and they will treat their customers better, thus the company will look better to the general public.
There that my  twocents 


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User currently offline1stfl94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 838 posts, RR: 1
Reply 33, posted (3 weeks 5 days 13 hours 11 minutes ago) and read 1569 times:



Quoting Qqflyboy (Reply 26):

Thanks!

User currently offlineUnitedFA07 From United States, joined Apr 2009, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 34, posted (3 weeks 5 days 6 hours 3 minutes ago) and read 1313 times:
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Quoting KLASM83 (Reply 20):



Quoting United1 (Reply 24):

Don't we all just love Our Rose though! lol  tongue 

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User currently offlineGayStudPilot From United States, joined Dec 2007, 180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 35, posted (3 weeks 5 days 5 hours 52 minutes ago) and read 1312 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 7):
They could take a hint from LH.

Umm, that would mean the FAs would have to be more fit! Some of our FAs look like they should be flying for MA.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 14):
I just hope that they get rid of those sweater jackets. They look so frumpy and unprofessional.

Agree. I'm totally over the frumpy look. Please, PLEASE, get rid of the housecoat dresses!!

User currently offlineSmi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 675 posts, RR: 0
Reply 36, posted (3 weeks 4 days 23 hours 59 minutes ago) and read 1127 times:

I think the the new uniform would be great nice fresh start, what really need to be addressed is the presentation and grooming standards. Things like correct shoes, hand luggage, make-up.... etc this is what really makes or breaks a new uniform these standard, it's not about removing individuality but presenting a perfect imagine every time not a mirror image.

I don't think weight is a big factor so long as the staff are able to preform their duties and their uniform fits correctly.

User currently offlineVC10er From United States, joined Feb 2007, 348 posts, RR: 7
Reply 37, posted (3 weeks 4 days 6 hours 48 minutes ago) and read 848 times:
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Go UA! I know you're screwed one way or another. If you kept the current uniform you'd be knocked for being drap and dull. If you change it's sighted as a cosmetic change when UA faces so many uphill battles. True.
But if it's dinnerware or uniforms, an upgrade is an upgrage and I see it as a sign of a positive future. Innovation comes slowly to UA, but when they decide to do it like in F & C and p.s. she can.
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User currently offlineM11Stephen From United States, joined Aug 2008, 249 posts, RR: 0
Reply 38, posted (3 weeks 4 days 5 hours 51 minutes ago) and read 769 times:

Great news! The current UA uniforms are not to professional looking... The vest the Male F/As wear is hideous. I hope they do away with that in the next uniform! I liked the uniform UA had before the current one a lot better.


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User currently offlineTommy767 From United States, joined Aug 2003, 2034 posts, RR: 10
Reply 39, posted (3 weeks 4 days 5 hours 26 minutes ago) and read 730 times:

Good for UA although most UA flights I've been on the F/As are dressed professionally. Guys wear vests and girls wear the blazers and such. I've seen some major slacking off with uniforms over at AA through the years.


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User currently offlineSQ772 From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 1741 posts, RR: 4
Reply 40, posted (3 weeks 4 days 4 hours 41 minutes ago) and read 689 times:



Quoting 1stfl94 (Reply 25):
Quoting Qqflyboy (Reply 15):
"shirt jacket."

Sorry for being a fashion dunce but what is 'shirt jacket' supposed to be!

I wonder if UA will get Sheridan to do the needlework

It's one thing to have new designer uniform, but if the dress code isn't properly enforced, everyone will eventually end up looking like Onslow in a night-dress.


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User currently offlineAADC10 From United States, joined Nov 2004, 955 posts, RR: 1
Reply 41, posted (3 weeks 3 days 15 hours 34 minutes ago) and read 453 times:



Quoting YXwatcherMKE (Reply 32):
WOW this is the last thing UA management need to worry about.

That is probably true but this is a classic M.B.A. move. Lacking any real ideas or systematic change, they "rebrand."

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