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Tu-154's Currently Operating Outside Of Russia  
User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7278 times:

Hey all,

Simple question: where could I get a ride on a Tu-154 outside of Russia?? Or, how could I get a ride on one to or through Russia without having to pay for a $200 USD tourist visa??

I know these days it's a pretty hard aircraft to come by, but if anyone knows of airlines and routes they are used on - on which I wouldn't have to pay for a pricey visa, I'd much appreciate it!!

Thanks in advance for all responses.



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7253 times:



Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Simple question: where could I get a ride on a Tu-154 outside of Russia?? Or, how could I get a ride on one to or through Russia without having to pay for a $200 USD tourist visa??

Check where the Tu154s fly, then book a ticket from one former block state to another, passing through SVO. Of course it doesn't have to be an ex block state, but as fares to these are still classed as Domestic Travel it's significantly cheaper. You generally have to go West-East or East-West, you can't go Europe-SVO-Europe, or not last time I checked at least.

I'd suggest something like Ukraine-Armenia, but you could be getting quite for SU, maybe look at the other carriers too. The Ukraine is pretty reasonable to get to now and it's a free entry stamp - no visa for US citizens I believe, and there should be dozens of Tu154s flying out of SIP and possibly ODS next summer, whilst EVN (although no Tu154 on this section, so be sure to get it on Ukraine-Moscow) is quite easy to get back out of again and the visa process is simple. Expect a single fare of under €200o/w and C for not much more. Keep AirBaltic in mind for your return if you only go single, you can normally get back to RIX for £100 from the capitals of the more unusual countries.


Dan  Smile



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7242 times:

Just to add:

You can also find Tu154s operating domestically in Azerbaijan, Iran, possibly Uzbekistan and again possibly Tajikistan. Iran for a Us citizen is a bit difficult though to say the least, and Azerbaijan is another expensive visa, whilst you will pay 20 times the price for a domestic ticket to Nakhchivan than a local would - about €180rtn.

Can you get a transit visa for Russia, is it any cheaper?



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User currently offlineAverageUser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7231 times:



Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Or, how could I get a ride on one to or through Russia without having to pay for a $200 USD tourist visa??

Update on the prices:


$131 for 4-20 business days processing;
$250 for 3 business days processing;

http://www.russianembassy.org/CONSULAT/TOUR-VIS.HTM


User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7137 times:



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 1):

Thanks for the quick answer!!

Are these all airlines you can book online or is it something I'd have to arrange once in the country?


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6927 times:



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 4):

Are these all airlines you can book online or is it something I'd have to arrange once in the country?

Book online if you want it to be cheap. Last time I looked, SIP-SVO-GYD was €177o/w in eco with SU. Their website is pretty easy to navigate, so just play around until you get the right flights and fares.



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User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6656 times:



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 5):
SIP-SVO-GYD was €177o/w in eco with SU.

I'm still slightly confused... If I only transit SVO, do I not need a visa at all?? Or just a transit visa?? (not sure if that's cheaper - I haven't looked)


User currently offlineAmmunition From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2002, 1065 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6641 times:

I flew on SU a few years back and did not need a transit visa, I stayed within the airport airside for a gruesome 12 hour connection.

Just to add... I was routed LHR-DEL via SVO.

[Edited 2009-11-09 07:48:10]


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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4328 posts, RR: 35
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6587 times:



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 6):
If I only transit SVO, do I not need a visa at all??

Outside of the USA you should be able to transfer thru most airports without visa. Some people who want to visit a country which is otherwise impossible to visit like Saudi Arabia, buy a DXB-JED-KWI ticket on SV as a way to pay that country at least a short visit.
Libya is also a difficult country to visit, but as long as you have a visa for the final destination, you can easily change planes there with Afriqiyah without visa. This to mention two other exotic hubs.
But always inform first if it's possible. I once changed planes in BEY with indirect clues I was in Israel (an Aqaba border stamp...) and while I managed, it was not my smartest thing.



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User currently offlineRevo1059 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6337 times:

Not to change direction too much, but has a TU-154 ever made it's way to the US?

User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2172 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6326 times:

One at IAD last week...looked like Russian Gov colors....

User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6326 times:



Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 8):
I once changed planes in BEY with indirect clues I was in Israel (an Aqaba border stamp...) and while I managed, it was not my smartest thing.

Ouch, I bet they gave you a hard time!

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 6):
I'm still slightly confused... If I only transit SVO, do I not need a visa at all?? Or just a transit visa?? (not sure if that's cheaper - I haven't looked)

You won't need a visa at all - so long as you've booked your trip on one ticket and it's even easier if you're flying with the same airlines like SU. As SU's own Tu-154s may all be gone very soon, you may find yourself flying on one of the associated Aeroflot carriers, such as Aeroflot Don. Don't worry though, you can still transit without a visa, although it will take considerably longer if you arrive at the domestic/regional terminals on the other side of SVO, as you go through a somewhat dull connections channel and then have to wait for a connections bus to the main international terminal area which may only run once an hour. When I did it I had a 17 hour layover - there were two earlier flights I could have taken, but they were B735/A32S equipment, so I waited overnight for the Tupolev in the morning.


Dan  Smile



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User currently offlineMtnWest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2458 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6231 times:



Quoting Revo1059 (Reply 9):
Not to change direction too much, but has a TU-154 ever made it's way to the US?

Yes. I was in SEA one day in late 90s when both Aeroflot and Khabarovsk Airways (?) both flew there. The SU IL-86 and Khab. TU-154 taxiied by in line. I was thinking "what a great time to be without a camera!"  Sad Anyway, They were both going to Siberia via ANC IIRC. Only time in my life I've seen the 154 live.



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User currently offlineStevenG From Netherlands, joined Oct 2005, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6189 times:

Maybe if you check with Ural Airlines.
Just yesterday afternoon (Sunday) I saw one at PRG.
I don't know if this was a regular service or just a replacement for their A320 and to which destination it was flying.
As far I have checked they have a reasonable international network.


User currently offlineHrc773 From Puerto Rico, joined Jan 2009, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5000 times:

Would this trip be strictly to catch a ride on this specific type of a/c? Airlines usually reserve the right to substitute equipment. I would hate to pay all that money and spend all that time to find out you're riding on a 737 or something else you've been on 1,000 times.

User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6104 posts, RR: 28
Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4883 times:
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Quoting Hrc773 (Reply 14):
Would this trip be strictly to catch a ride on this specific type of a/c? Airlines usually reserve the right to substitute equipment. I would hate to pay all that money and spend all that time to find out you're riding on a 737 or something else you've been on 1,000 times

that would be why it would be a good idea to do a round trip a few days apart via the same routing only in reverse. That way if there were a substitution the chances of it happening twice would be slim.



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User currently offlineNorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 3024 posts, RR: 36
Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4825 times:
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Quoting MtnWest1979 (Reply 12):
Not to change direction too much, but has a TU-154 ever made it's way to the US?

Yes. I was in SEA one day in late 90s when both Aeroflot and Khabarovsk Airways (?) both flew there. The SU IL-86 and Khab. TU-154 taxiied by in line. I was thinking "what a great time to be without a camera!" Sad Anyway, They were both going to Siberia via ANC IIRC. Only time in my life I've seen the 154 live.

Also Aeronica and Guyana Airways flew them to MIA (and maybe elsewhere in the US?) in the 80s.

and im sure a Cubana example or 2 has shown up on diplomatic flights or some-such... or "refugee" flights... I think i once saw a picture of one at SJU at least.

And if you include Canada i once saw a Polish Air Force example... at YOW as i recall... would of been late 80s.



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User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7152 posts, RR: 57
Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4721 times:

Time is running out to fly the 134 and 154, as they are rapidly being replaced by the 737 classics by secondary airlines, and the 319/20 by Russian Majors.

In the summer Belavia operate the 154 from SNN to Minsk.

Uzbekistan fly the 154.



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User currently offline_AA_777_MAN From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4611 times:



Quoting Revo1059 (Reply 9):
Not to change direction too much, but has a TU-154 ever made it's way to the US?

I know that LO flew them to JFK in the 70s & 80s. Maybe even ORD not sure. And the Polish government still operates 1 or 2 154s for VIP transport. I have also seen a TU-154 at ORD, not sure who it belonged to it was parked too far.


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 19, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4522 times:



Quoting _AA_777_MAN (Reply 18):

I know that LO flew them to JFK in the 70s & 80s.

Wasn't that the IL-62M only? The Tu-154 doesn't really have the legs for Transatlantic travel, even with a stop in SNN?



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User currently offlineNZaholic From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2008, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4459 times:

Saw one parked up at SSH last week, wearing Orenair colours.

User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4897 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4291 times:



Quoting Revo1059 (Reply 9):
Not to change direction too much, but has a TU-154 ever made it's way to the US?

One came in for the G20 here at PIT.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25346 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4284 times:



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 19):
Quoting _AA_777_MAN (Reply 18):

I know that LO flew them to JFK in the 70s & 80s.

Wasn't that the IL-62M only? The Tu-154 doesn't really have the legs for Transatlantic travel, even with a stop in SNN?

I can't recall any carrier operating the Tu-154 on transatlantic services which would have needed at least one, if not two, fuel stops depending on the destination. LO used the IL-62 on transatlantic routes in the 1970s/80s.


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User currently offline_AA_777_MAN From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4284 times:



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 19):
Wasn't that the IL-62M only? The Tu-154 doesn't really have the legs for Transatlantic travel, even with a stop in SNN?

You are right. I got my Russian jets mixed up. It sure was the IL-62. Thanx for the correction.  Smile


User currently offlineYak42 From Ireland, joined Oct 2000, 801 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3997 times:

You could fly from Dubai to Yerevan, Istanbul, Damascus, Beirut, Kiev, Minsk or Budapest via Tehran IKA or the other way round (or even both directions) with Caspian Airlines, all legs being Tu154M.
Route map:
http://www.caspian.aero/html/en/page.aspx?name=international.htm
You would probably need to buy the tickets from an associated travel agent outside either Iran or the US in order to reserve in advance with a credit card.
Here are representitive agents in Istanbul- http://www.istrichmond.com/fa_contact/, Yerevan- http://www.tatev.com/About%20Us.htm, Dubai- http://www.ameinfo.com/db-790489.html Kiev and Budapest- http://www.caspian-air.com/, Damascus and Beirut http://nahastt.net/final_version/test_en.html.


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