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User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2177 posts, RR: 3
Posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 28378 times:

Friend of mine sent me an email...

"Does DFW, ORD, or any other airport have *runways* that go across roads? I know they have *taxi ways*, but I don't think so of runways."

Now I know LAX has Sepulveda Blvd running under the south pair...and that MIA has an airport vehicle only tunnel under the diagonal....and that ORD is just a taxiway...I think. Doesn't Gibralter have a road that actually crosses on a runway...who get's the light??
Did a search here on anet and didn't come up with a topic so the question is to the group....have fun!

(and yes...gonna send my friend the link so he can follow...and try to get him to join our merry band of misfits and cutthroats...grin)

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User currently offlineSydaircargo From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 28386 times:

In SYD the Main Runway runs across the M5 Highway

User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8625 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 28395 times:
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Not quite what you are asking for but I couldnt resist


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gisborne_Airport

...Gisborne Airport (IATA: GIS, ICAO: NZGS) is a regional airport on the outskirts of Gisborne on the East Coast of the North Island of New Zealand. Gisborne Airport is rare amongst airports in that it has a railway line, the Palmerston North - Gisborne Line, crossing the main runway. ...


I have been trying to find a photo of the line but no luck yet .

edited to add - found a link to a poor quality photo - you can see a diesel locomotive waiting near the edge of the runway

http://images.google.co.nz/imgres?im...522%26as_st%3Dy%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

[Edited 2009-11-10 06:19:03 by kiwiandrew]


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User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2177 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 28328 times:

Knew I had seen something...2001 thread..
Runways Over Roads? Kicked From Spot? (by Jared May 16 2001 in Civil Aviation)?threadid=469456&searchid=469524&s=runways+over+roads#ID469524

but it is quite short.....did not even have LAX...

Thanks for SYD....and a railroad crossing down in NZ? First I have ever heard of something like that...wow!!


User currently offlineJoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3185 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 28323 times:



Quoting Sydaircargo (Reply 1):
In SYD the Main Runway runs across the M5 Highway

But here the road is in a tunnel below the runway. That's not so special and can be found in many airports worldwide.

In Gibraltar, there is a level crossing between the road and the runway:


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User currently offlineRobffm2 From Germany, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 1124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 28308 times:



Quoting Hiflyer (Thread starter):
Doesn't Gibralter have a road that actually crosses on a runway...who get's the light??

That is correct: The main and only connection to Spain crosses the runway of GIB. There are barriers for the street traffic similar to those at normal railway crossings. No problem here.
Interesting, and much more problematic is that pedestrians can also cross the runway.
When living next to airport some years ago I heard several times loudspeakers asking some slow walkers to speed up as a plane was approaching...


User currently offlineJohnJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1687 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 28292 times:

Memphis' Runway 18C and several adjacent taxiways cross Winchester Road. Atlanta's new Runway 28 goes across Interstate 285 with a massive bridge structure.

User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 28224 times:

Bringing back great memories, Denver Stapleton (geez how I miss the ole' place) Runway 17R/35L went over I-70 just north of the terminal buildings.


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User currently offlineSteex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1761 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 28186 times:

Runway 11/29 at STL crosses a tunnel over US Route 67 (Lindbergh Blvd.) near its midpoint.

User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2177 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 28186 times:



Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 7):
Runway 17R/35L went over I-70

Forgotten that one....remember driving into Denver to do a summer job with the original Frontier back in 72 at Stapleton....(ahh the employee cafeteria grin).....aircraft passing overhead....


User currently offlineDaleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 28153 times:

Manchester airport (MAN)...


Tunnels pass underneath both runways...



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User currently offlineEgnr From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 28116 times:

Manchester Airport in the UK has a road (the A538 Wilmslow Road)that passes under both runway 23R/05L (and its parallel taxiway) and 23L/05R. Link - EGCC

Seattle-Tacoma Airport also has a road (S 188th Street) which passes underneath a runway (34R/16L) and its associated parallel taxiway. Link - KSEA
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User currently offlineHawaiian763 From Canada, joined May 2009, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 28103 times:

I believe in Seattle Runway 34R/16L runs right over top of S 188th Street

User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8625 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 28086 times:
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Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 10):
Manchester airport (MAN)...

Loved the photo , particularly the AF retro jet .

I have a silly question ( but I am actually serious when I ask it ) , do roads/tunnels such as these ever seem to have higher crash rates than normal ( car crash , I mean , not aircraft crash ) ... I am sure that my ever-hazardous driving would be even worse than normal in a locale such as this as I would be concentrating on what was going on above the road rather than what was happening on the road . I assume that locals pretty quickly become immune ( or become road kill ) but there must be occassional itinerant plane spotters who end up wrapping themselves and their cars around a supporting pillar because they have spotted an aircraft which has always eluded them in the past ?



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User currently offlineJpiddink From Netherlands, joined Feb 2009, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 28033 times:

Surely the A1 motorway at CDG should be in the list? Both runways 27R and 27L run over it.

While I think of it, runway 26R and 26L join the very exclusive club of runways over a dedicated high speed rail line. I'm not sure there are any more, perhaps in Germany, Spain or Japan?


User currently offlineHFW From Germany, joined Sep 2007, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 28003 times:

In HAM the runway runs over the "Krohnstieg" road.....

User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2379 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 27962 times:

In MKE, Howell Avenue goes underneath 7R/25L and the parallel taxiway.


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User currently offlineMI5Flyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 27914 times:

I am thinking KBNA - 02C/20C

User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 27914 times:
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Paradise/N. Airport Connecter Road pass under the 7/25 runways at LAS.

User currently offlineMKENut From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 699 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 27902 times:



Quoting JBo (Reply 16):
In MKE, Howell Avenue goes underneath 7R/25L and the parallel taxiway.

The new runway that will eventually be built will go over the Howell and College intersection I believe. They are building a tunnel for College right now for the extended buffer zone too. Anyone think Layton will eventual go under a runway?


User currently offlineVtmaa From India, joined Oct 2006, 109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 27802 times:

y''all missed ATL's recently constructed 5th runway 10/28, passes over I-285. All 9+ lanes of it!

User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3402 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 27761 times:



Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 13):
have a silly question ( but I am actually serious when I ask it ) , do roads/tunnels such as these ever seem to have higher crash rates than normal ( car crash , I mean , not aircraft crash ) ... I am sure that my ever-hazardous driving would be even worse than normal in a locale such as this as I would be concentrating on what was going on above the road rather than what was happening on the road

that particular tunnel has had one famous crash:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/ne...7810000/newsid_7817900/7817959.stm


User currently offlineTGV From France, joined Dec 2004, 874 posts, RR: 20
Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 27742 times:

In Paris CDG a highway (A1 going to the north) crosses the 2 northern runways (27 R and L), while the high speed line connecting the north to the south of France crosses the 2 southern runways (26 R and 26 L).

And in Paris ORY a main road crosses runway 26.



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User currently offlineSpeedyGonzales From Norway, joined Sep 2007, 745 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 27742 times:

E6 goes under both runway and taxiway at TRD:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...604&spn=0.007163,0.027466&t=h&z=16



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User currently offlineTharanga From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1867 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 27731 times:



Quoting Vtmaa (Reply 20):
y''all missed ATL's recently constructed 5th runway 10/28, passes over I-285. All 9+ lanes of it!

No, JohnJ had it, reply 6. I couldn't find a good picture of it in the database; it's also pretty interesting to look at.


25 DLPhoenix : In AMS the A4 runs under 9-27. This should be one of the oldest, I recall driving through it in 1969. DLP
26 764 : The far end of 05R (or very beginning of 23L) in DUS crosses both a major railway line and an airport side tunnel for service vehicles. I also seem to
27 Post contains images Joost : At AMS, runways and taxiways cross roads, railways and canals. The A4 highway crosses The Buitenveldertbaan (09-27) and two taxiways. Also the railway
28 Post contains links and images Oly720man : Meiringen where they have barriers to stop the traffic to let the planes take off and land View Large View MediumPhoto © Hans Domjan View Large V
29 Post contains links KGAIflyer : The government of Gibraltar has been busy building a tunnel under the runway for the last two years in order to solve the (not so insignificant) pede
30 MUWarriors : I think the hill on the other side of Layton will limit the usefulness of a tunnel, I think if anything they would shift the runway south further (si
31 Post contains links Bwest : The N227 runs under runway 25L in BRU Bing maps link
32 Vtmaa : Sorry JohnJ missed it. Thanks Tharanga for pointing this out.
33 Post contains images PlymSpotter : LHR (I'm surprised nobody has mentioned it so far!) GVA SIP - under runway and taxiway DUS LTN - taxiway only STN - railway line under runway LCY - no
34 Robffm2 : In the press release it says: "However, the tunnel and its approach roads will be ready at the start of 2009." So, that means the tunnel is there and
35 AirJamaica : You beat me to it. I remember when it was being constructed in 2005 on my first visit to that city. Where I stayed gave an impressive view of it and
36 T8KE0FF : Pretty sure we have one at LHR...
37 Gr8Circle : Yeah....I too was looking for a mention of LHR somewhere.... I remember,, years ago as a child, we were in London and used to travel through the tunn
38 Kiwiandrew : Funchal , I think , I am sure that there are some photos somewhere in the database .
39 KGAIflyer : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hey, don't shoot the messenger. My information
40 Robffm2 : While it might be great for GIB, it will certainly take away that very special feeling of crossing an active runway on your own feet!
41 Airbuske : MSP 12R/30L goes over a tunnel road that connects Humphrey and Lindberg.
42 RFields5421 : The new airport built on Monserrat after the volcano destroyed the old one has a road in a tunnel under the west end of the runway. It is probably the
43 Cptspeaking : Hagerstown, MD - HGR - When the runway was extended, they built a tunnel for the road instead of re-routing it. Also, VNY, one of the busiest General
44 Post contains links and images LN-KGL : Leed Bradford Airport (LBA) has also got a tunnel under the runway - the Victoria Ave/A658 tunnel. View Large View MediumPhoto © Steven Grace htt
45 Apodino : I am surprised no one has mentioned LAS yet. The pair of 7-25's crosses right over 215, which also connects the Airport with the consolidated rental c
46 Yflyer : If we include military facilities, the Marine Corps Air Facility at Quantico, VA also has a level crossing between a road and the runway. Like Gibral
47 Post contains links AvroArrow : BRN (Bern/Belp) has a road that passes through the very end of its runway 32, although its technically in the displaced threshold area I think it stil
48 Qqflyboy : I was surprised it didn't come up sooner as well. To get technical, however, it's Paradise Road/North Airport Connector that runs under the parallel
49 B6JFKH81 : IIRC, LGB has a road that goes under the main runway no?
50 Buslover : STR has a tunnel for RWY07/25 for a long time.
51 Heathrow : I remember being around SKG and having to wait for the plane to cross the highway
52 Spotterke : In BRU there is also a tunnel under 25L
53 Mariner63 : MUWarriors, You pretty much summed up what I was going to say. I was be a big pain in the a** to shut down Layton to put a tunnel over it. College av
54 Post contains links Trijetsonly : I fly to LEJ once per month and I really like the taxiway over the Autobahn that you can find there http://www.airliners.net/photo/Atlas...Air/Boeing-
55 Vikkyvik : Yep. That's a great documentary, too. Yes. There are actually two major roads that go under runway 12-30: Lakewood Blvd. and Spring St.
56 Post contains links and images FLY2HMO : Another one apparently forgotten, though admittedly its only taxiways, is in PHX, there's an airplane overpass on Tango, Sierra and Romeo. View Large
57 Post contains links and images SNA752 : Sepulveda Blvd. crossed under the south complex and LAX View Large View MediumPhoto © Montague Smith-WorldWide Aviation Photos
58 Gregarious119 : When Greene County (Xenia) Ohio (I19) extended their runway, they had to lower Valley Road and create a tunnel for it. Pretty big project for our litt
59 Nwafan20 : DTW has G Rogell Drive (formerly John Dingell Drive up until a few weeks ago) that runs under runway 9R/27L as well as 9L/27R and a couple taxiways
60 Lexy : You are correct. The Center runway crosses over Murfreesboro Road and it's rare that you ever hear of a car crash inside the tunnel. There is also cr
61 Post contains images JCKastrup : At Copenhagen airport there is a tunnel under one of the runways.
62 Planesavvy : LHR not only has the main road to T1,2 and 3 under 09L-27R, but also has an airside tunnel under 09R-27L which leads to T4 and the cargo area.
63 Post contains links and images Vhqpa : This is from google maps Gisborne Airport Rail Crossing BWT (Burnie/Wynyard, Tasmania AU) also had a similar arrangement on one of it's secondary run
64 Futuresdpdcop : It was mentioned in reply 18 guys/
65 Smcmac32msn : Don't know if it was mentioned but Howell Ave runs under 7R/25L at MKE. There is a construction project to lengthen the same runway across 6th St to t
66 Post contains links Hotje : Schiphol has another tunnel, under 06-24, however maintenance only. http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=h&....754162&spn=0.007808,0.025899&z=16
67 F16arm : Cvg has one going under their new and *cough, ,cough* needed runway . If I remember right it's KY-20
68 Flyingfool : Actually the Schipholtunnel is also the widest 'airporttunnel' in the world with a total of 16 lanes for cars and a seperate bicycle path. Mike.
69 Hiflyer : You guys are great!!! Far more than I thought! Thanks very much...
70 Post contains links Incubus : The extension to runway 9 at Sumburgh Airport, Shetland, now means that the A970 has to cross the runway. Traffic is controlled using lights, in the s
71 LN-KGL : Under runway 10/28 at ZRH there is also a tunnel, but that tunnel is only for internal use + for busing aviation enthusiast to the visitor terrace at
72 Ttailfan : Its a small general aviation airport, but in Holland Michigan, the Tulip City Airport extended the runway and a tunnel had to be put in to allow traff
73 Post contains links CaptSkibi : I was about to post this earlier, but I had to run, so you beat me to it, Ttailfan. BTW, the airport identifier is BIV KBIV. Google Map[Edited 2009-1
74 Mariner63 : Interesting detour. Sounds better than shutting down College completely between Pennsylvania and Howell. Do you know if they plan on looping 6th stre
75 Gatechae : I think it looks like a giant blimp hangar over the interstate
76 Sparky35805 : BNA center runway overpasses Murfreesboro road on the south end. Sparky
77 JBo : I was just about to post about Tulip City ... I had forgotten about it!
78 Post contains links MedAv : KBUF has two tunnels (one for a public road) under 5-23 and the parallel taxiway. http://www.airliners.net/photo/Unite...d=75952c185140b08e946ec99da62
79 Post contains links MKENut : The 20 year master plan is dated October 2003. I believe College Ave. and 6th St. were included in the plans and are being worked on right now. If pr
80 MUWarriors : I actually looked that over the other day (more for the concourses than runways though), yup I'm a nerd . I just wasn't sure if there was a set timel
81 Adriaticflight : Zadar airport in croatia has a road that has to be closed when planes land its funnny to see
82 Post contains links and images MSPNWA : Well, I have a couple ugly shots from the freeway on a dreary Georgia day last December. About to go under the runway. Taken after I passed through t
83 2707200X : Lakewood Blvd and Spring St. in Long Beach go underneath the the taxiway and runway.
84 Post contains links and images AirIndia : DXB has a tunnel under the runway. Its quiet a busy road. I take to work and back everyday. Infact, the new terminal 3 is under the taxiways..........
85 Seb146 : Ah, yes. I remember driving from Oregon to Kansas and this was always the highlight for me! When I lived in Auburn, south of Seattle, I only went on
86 Randykkubo : don't know if anyone's said this, but they land over the 405 freeway at SNA
87 KBUF : " target=_blank>http://www.airliners.net/photo/Unite...f4495 This summer, I was going towards the public tunnel when a WN 73G landed on it right in f
88 Smcmac32msn : 6th St will be like College & Howell and will end up under the runway extension. College was fully shut down from Penn to Howell from 9.21.09-10.5.09
89 Post contains images BA : BEY has a road tunnel that pass underneath the sea runway, runway 16/34, and a taxiway connector. There is another road tunnel that passes underneath
90 PanHAM : I may have missed it but 89 roads and FRA has not been mentioned...... Runway 18 at FRA - = Okrifteler Strasse is tunneled twice, by the regular stree
91 Post contains links Wingscrubber : Beech field here in Wichita has Central Ave. running underneath it. One of the more exciting roads around here - actually has a bend or two in it. Cli
92 TruemanQLD : The main highway runs underneath Gold Coast Airport (OOL)
93 Joost : And 2 seperate lanes for the Sternet bus services.
94 Panman : Actually three that I use everyday. The main M4 spur road into the airport, The aformentioned Cargo Tunnel linking the Central Area with the Southern
95 PlymSpotter : I can also remember when BRS (Bristol Lulsgate) has traffic lights which closed the A38. Can anybody else remember if they were used for every operati
96 Hiflyer : Thanks again everyone..figured had a few tunnels but never figured on the level road and even railroad crossings...amazing!!!
97 JBo : Grand Haven Road has been rerouted around the extension for Runway 14/32, and the intersection with Ellis Road has been eliminated (The very end of t
98 Flyingfool : Joost Do you mean the Zuidtangent tunnel? Some other airports with road / taxiway / runway crossings: Buochs in Switzerland, where Pilatus Aircraft i
99 Post contains images DC10sRULE : Sorry if someone already mentioned it... Just above the Austrian A330 is Runway 33R/15L @ CYYZ. (My Photo taken from the tower cab btw.) Airport vehic
100 Avrich : Just a taxiway, but anyone who has ever flown into or out of KMHT will have had to pass under the taxiway to RWY 6/24.....it's the only road into the
101 F9fan : There were accidents all the time on I-70 near the runways at old DEN. People would be mesmerized by the jets taking off, and ram into cars behind th
102 Post contains images KGAIflyer : Okay, one of my students follows A.net quite a lot, and every once in a while, he trades images with me from the archives. He found these pix of plane
103 Post contains links and images STT757 : Houston IAH View Large View MediumPhoto © Thomas Millard
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