BA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11097 posts, RR: 68 Posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3751 times:
I'm curious if anyone has any idea how MH's 3x weekly KUL-DXB-BEY-DXB-KUL service on A330-200s is doing these days?
With the growth of the Gulf carriers like EK, EY, and QR over the years, the amount of service from their hubs to BEY has increased drastically and they all offer convenient connections from their hubs to the Far East and Oceania, so I am curious to see how MH is doing in the face of this significantly increased competition?
Here is the service BEY receives from EK, EY, and QR.
SurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2378 posts, RR: 29 Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3737 times:
Malaysia Airlines has a knack for flying to some pretty far-flung cities...CPT, EZE, and BEY (didn't even know they flew there until now) come to mind...
Flying in the middle seat of coach is much better than not flying at all!
Gardermoen From Australia, joined Jul 1999, 1492 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3536 times:
I think the service must be doing alright as it has never been mentioned in any of the cuts that the airline has announced in the past few years. It basically acts as a feeder for MH's MEL/SYD flights.
I remember at one point the routing was KUL-DXB-BEY-CAI for a short time.
Marco From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 4158 posts, RR: 20 Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3505 times:
Hi BA keefak?
The flight to Beirut is very popular with the Lebanese in Dubai, the price is usually similar to the Low Cost carriers but of course MH is a full service airline. During peak times like Christmas/New Years/Eid/long weekends in UAE/etc the flight (along with all flights) is packed. The only drawback is the timing of the flight from Dubai (departure time 5am).
Quoting Marco (Reply 3): The flight to Beirut is very popular with the Lebanese in Dubai, the price is usually similar to the Low Cost carriers but of course MH is a full service airline. During peak times like Christmas/New Years/Eid/long weekends in UAE/etc the flight (along with all flights) is packed. The only drawback is the timing of the flight from Dubai (departure time 5am).
Thanks, I thought this was probably the case.
I'm curious how much of the traffic originating in KUL continues to BEY rather than gets off in DXB.
Quoting Gardermoen (Reply 2): I remember at one point the routing was KUL-DXB-BEY-CAI for a short time.
When it originally started back in the 90's, it even operated KUL-BEY-CAI. I am not 100% sure, but I think it operated as a triangle route as it returned to KUL non-stop from CAI.
At the time, the service operated 2x weekly on 772s. When it switched to KUL-DXB-BEY-DXB-KUL, it remained 2x weekly 772s. I think it was around 2004 when they changed it from 2x weekly 772s to 3x weekly 332s.
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BA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11097 posts, RR: 68 Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3030 times:
I just noticed that MH actually upgraded its BEY service to A330-300s at the end of March, so I guess they must be doing okay.
BA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11097 posts, RR: 68 Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2965 times:
Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 6): I am not sure if it is really considered an "upgrade" because the -300 feature significantly lacklustre cabin amenities compared to the -200s.
I mean it is an increase in capacity, but since you bring it up, how is the Y seat pitch compared to the -200s? I understand that the -300s don't have PTVs in Y while the -200s do. What other differences are there?
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Traveladdict From Malaysia, joined Feb 2009, 42 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2933 times:
My cousin flew KUL-BEY-KUL in June/July and he said the flight was absolutely packed both ways with Arab tourists. He didn't mention whether those pax got off at DXB or BEY...
TreeHillRavens From Malaysia, joined Jun 2007, 297 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2850 times:
Quoting BA (Reply 7): I mean it is an increase in capacity, but since you bring it up, how is the Y seat pitch compared to the -200s? I understand that the -300s don't have PTVs in Y while the -200s do. What other differences are there?
Seat pitch in EY on MH 333 is a lot better at 34" compared to the leased 332 with only 32".
BrightCedars From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 1234 posts, RR: 3 Reply 10, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2797 times:
I'm curious too about this. I think it's a pitty ME and MH don't codeshare anymore, it could be of great benefit to both carriers. Perhaps if ME joins Skyteam in a form or another one day, and if MH goes the same direction, we might see a partnership on this route?
What are other routes linking Northern and South East Asia with Beirut? Don't KE have a cargo flight these days? Do you think KE could start a SEL-BEY route together with ME one day? Maybe a Chinese member of Skyteam would be interested in hooking up with ME's African network? Maybe other airlines flying to the Gulf would be interested in extending some frequency to BEY e.g. CX and SQ. There is a good volume of high yield revenue to be made in BEY as well.
I sure hope to take that flight for a vacation from Lebanon to SE Asia in the not too distant future so here's hoping for it to last. Members of the family have been using it between DXB and BEY and were very pleased with it.
BA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11097 posts, RR: 68 Reply 12, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2645 times:
Quoting BrightCedars (Reply 10): What are other routes linking Northern and South East Asia with Beirut? Don't KE have a cargo flight these days? Do you think KE could start a SEL-BEY route together with ME one day? Maybe a Chinese member of Skyteam would be interested in hooking up with ME's African network? Maybe other airlines flying to the Gulf would be interested in extending some frequency to BEY e.g. CX and SQ. There is a good volume of high yield revenue to be made in BEY as well.
MH's flight is the only one.
A few years ago I did read that CX was studying BEY.
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Directorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1554 posts, RR: 12 Reply 13, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2613 times:
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Can anyone remember what the original routing/frequency/aircraft was to BEY? If I understand correctly, when the route started in the 1990s, the Gulf airlines (EK/GF) were much smaller in terms of network, so a longhaul link would surely have been welcome.
BA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11097 posts, RR: 68 Reply 14, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2602 times:
Quoting Directorguy (Reply 13): Can anyone remember what the original routing/frequency/aircraft was to BEY? If I understand correctly, when the route started in the 1990s, the Gulf airlines (EK/GF) were much smaller in terms of network, so a longhaul link would surely have been welcome.
It was 2x weekly 772 and the route operated with CAI. It might have been KUL-BEY-CAI-KUL, but I'm not entirely sure.
In either 2001 or 2002, it changed to KUL-DXB-BEY-DXB-KUL. Then around 4 or 5 years ago, it changed from 2x weekly 772 to 3x weekly 332. And as of this past Spring, it's been operating 3x weekly 333.
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777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 4114 posts, RR: 3 Reply 15, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2391 times:
Quoting BA (Reply 14): It was 2x weekly 772 and the route operated with CAI. It might have been KUL-BEY-CAI-KUL, but I'm not entirely sure
They originally used A333 asccording to OAG schedules 1997, then the 777 replaced them, also 744 was used as summer upgrade sometimes via Dubai when routing was changed.
BrightCedars From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 1234 posts, RR: 3 Reply 18, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1854 times:
Quoting Fly2CHC (Reply 17): Yup, you can also add ZAG, MEX, and MAD to the list of past MH cities which may surprise some...
They ran KUL-DXB-BRU-MAD for some time after the new BRU terminal was inaugurated in the 90's. A pitty they didn't stick around. Here's hoping for their return (along with ME, TG, SQ, MU, et al.)
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