71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2334 posts, RR: 1 Posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 8937 times:
One of the craziest stories I have ever read,
GRIFFIN, Ga. -- Delta Air Lines suspended a pilot who was arrested and charged with trying to strike officers with his plane (not a DL plane but his personal DC-3) at the Griffin-Spalding Airport.
Phishphan70 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 237 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 8827 times:
wow, hopefully he gets the help he needs, because he sounds like a nut-job
B6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2406 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 8828 times:
LOL...he went through all that and didn't have enough fuel!?!? Dumb @ss!!
"If you do not learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it"
Surfdog75 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 295 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 8776 times:
Spacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2901 posts, RR: 16 Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 8742 times:
It can mean different things... in my town, the code enforcement department does stuff like making sure the people parked in municipal lots have the proper parking permits, and that residential houses keep their grass cut below a foot.
Generally code enforcement officers make sure people are following local municipal laws, as opposed to investigating criminal matters.
I'm tired of being a wanna-be league bowler. I wanna be a league bowler!
KL911 From Hungary, joined Jul 2003, 4439 posts, RR: 17 Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 8570 times:
Quoting Spacecadet (Reply 4): making sure the people parked in municipal lots have the proper parking permits, and that residential houses keep their grass cut below a foot.
Haha, the government tells you when to cut the grass in YOUR garden? What a joke...
777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2897 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 8546 times:
Quoting KL911 (Reply 5): Haha, the government tells you when to cut the grass in YOUR garden? What a joke...
FRAspotter From South Korea, joined May 2004, 2240 posts, RR: 6 Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 8377 times:
Quoting KL911 (Reply 5): Haha, the government tells you when to cut the grass in YOUR garden? What a joke...
Quoting 777STL (Reply 6): Yes, you see we have laws here.
Yes... In some places it's under the control of a thing called a "Home Owners Association" in other places it's run by the city. It's not just in the US, I've lived in Germany pretty much my entire life and there are people there (can't remember the name for them) that go around making sure certain aspects of the house and property are in good repair. Grass is cut, car is washed, make sure the driveway/sidewalk in front of the house is shoveled and sanded in the winter, etc...
"Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak."
KELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 5609 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 8300 times:
Quoting Spacecadet (Reply 4):
It can mean different things... in my town, the code enforcement department does stuff like making sure the people parked in municipal lots have the proper parking permits, and that residential houses keep their grass cut below a foot.
Or give you a ticket if you, say, park your car going against traffic (Our local "Code enforcement" officer busted me for that on more than one occasion...)
Celebrating the birth of KELPkidJR on August 5, 2009 :-)
ULMFlyer From Brazil, joined Sep 2006, 470 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 8219 times:
Maybe the guy is a nutjob, but without the testimony of other witnesses or a dashboard cam video, perhaps it's better to wait before flaming him.
Maybe he was just being an ass to the Spalding County cops because of the citations, and they felt he was not "respecting their authoritah!," making the rest of the story up. The fuel part sounds fishy to me. But who knows?
JBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4399 posts, RR: 23 Reply 10, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7995 times:
Sounds like a pissing contest where nobody "blinked."
I wonder what the citations were for. If they were for the driving on airport property, he should have gotten on the phone with AOPA or his attorney instead of trying to be a "badder dude" than the officer was trying to be.
Stupidly escalating a ridiculous situation, unfortunately, might just get him canned.
Stratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1522 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7904 times:
Another pilot idiot that needs to have his career ended. Someone in a responsible position does not need to be there with erratic behavior such as this.
Darthluke12694 From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 209 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7837 times:
Good for Delta for suspending him. There is no way a pilot who behaved the way he did should be allowed to fly again, especially for a commercial airliner.
Once again, I will never understand why pilots spend all of their hard work and money and blow it all away with an incident like this.
At least nobody got hurt in this incident.
KBNA - "To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the sky is home."
Blueman87 From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 503 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7575 times:
he might be more then suspended thats resisiting when he left before getting the 6 Citiations
Maverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 3807 posts, RR: 4 Reply 14, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 7478 times:
Quote: Gryder told the officers that if they did not move their car, he would intentionally strike it with his plane. As the officers returned to their car, they said Gryder almost struck their vehicle with his plane.
He's lucky they were code enforcement officers, and not regular cops. We'd be reading a thread about a dead Delta pilot.
FrequentFlyKid From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1194 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 7402 times:
Almost every department, including mine, has a policy about firing into moving vehicles. Firing into, or at, a moving vehicle (an airplane included) is generally prohibited unless you can articulate one hell of a great reason. Basically, I would have to prove that firing into said vehicle was going to stop the threat and not cause more danger than others or myself are already in. Neutralizing the pilot of a moving aircraft, no matter how much danger I am in, is more likely than not going to cause greater danger, considering we now have a pilotless airplane moving/taxiing/flying about.
Q120 From Canada, joined Aug 2008, 229 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 7365 times:
People cant just assume hes a nut job just because he does not want to listen to the code authority personal. I bet you they are after him for several small infractions that were probably so ridiculous from the get-go, and he was most likely just sick of hearing it and decided to bust outta there.
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results
Western727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 537 posts, RR: 5 Reply 17, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6325 times:
Same pilot (Daniel Gryder) is featured in this YouTube video criticizing the hard landing of the A-380 at OshKosh last summer:
71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2334 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6134 times:
Western727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 537 posts, RR: 5 Reply 19, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6002 times:
Thanks, 71Zulu. Looks to be a skilled pilot, landing on one wheel while using the rudder to maintain course. I'm starting to become more interested in his fate with the authorities as well as with DL.
FLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5884 times:
What an idiot. Had he just remained cool he wouldn't have ended up in jail.
Quoting FRAspotter (Reply 7): . In some places it's under the control of a thing called a "Home Owners Association"
Which from my experience are the most annoying organizations ever, the several I've had the misfortune of coming in contact with were run like the Gestapo. One tiny, microscopic oil stain in MY OWN, otherwise perfectly clean, driveway was enough reason for them to fine me $50. Of course I never paid any of their idiotic fines.
Western727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 537 posts, RR: 5 Reply 21, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5818 times:
Quoting FLY2HMO (Reply 20): Which from my experience are the most annoying organizations ever, the several I've had the misfortune of coming in contact with were run like the Gestapo.
LOL. I agree with you; I've heard of some first-hand negative experiences with HOAs but on the other hand I appreciate that my HOA helps to prevent blight in my neighborhood (no kids' toys left lying out front, no neglected landscape that would make my street look like crap, no boats on trailers, no RVs, etc.), which is why I chose to live here; no one forced my hand.
Jolau1701 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 205 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5792 times:
DL/NW pilots have been getting a bad rep lately haven't they?
Fxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 6848 posts, RR: 98 Reply 23, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4677 times:
This guy was flying 777's for DL and living a good life. Good news for everyone else there now they'll move up a spot on the food chain.
AFGMEL From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 726 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4657 times:
Quoting 777STL (Reply 6): Yes, you see we have laws here.
Yes, but I'm a bit confused about the "Free" bit in "land of the free".
25 RussianJet: What a total idiot. Throw the book at him. He deserves a decent spell in the clink.
26 Varigb707: Well looks like there's another pilot position open... How many so far, in the past weeks? Two from NW, one from UA and not one from DL. Cool. Start y
27 JohnJ: In municipalities that have laws about upkeep, the neighbors of people who don't give a damn about how their house looks are free from having their p
28 Flyorski: The laws are for public safety in most cases and completely reasonable. I know of such laws in Utah, such as when after a major snow storm houses and
29 MSYPI7185: Several things just do not sound right about this story. Since when does Code Enforcement have any authority at an airport? Sounds like it maybe the C
30 Western727: 777 pilot and a DC-3 pilot as well who performs at air shows...therefore a "God" complex, perhaps...
31 JBirdAV8r: THAT's where i've heard that name before. A lousy performance in its own right (the critique) That combined with an overzealous code enforcement offi
32 Flyorski: Actually this is Code Enforcement jurisdiction.. http://www.cityofgriffin.com/Departm...ngDevelopment/CodeEnforcement.aspx And from the city code: AR
33 Western727: I just realized his mug shot shows him with a smug-looking smirk. Not smart. If I were in his shoes, I'd take the whole thing seriously knowing that m
34 AFGMEL: Yes I understand that. OT I know, but believe it or not we have similar laws here as we, like Europe, are quite advanced societies. It was the patron
35 Kaiarahi: And your evidence is ...? Who says it was taken after the incident? I don't see a "smug-looking smirk" either - just a slightly goofy smile. You misu
36 Western727: That was only an assumption on my part but the fact that there are painted concrete blocks behind him suggests (because county jails very often have
37 CatIII: That's where I remember him from! Amen. I remember watching it when it first came out and thinking to myself "let's see you do it pal then you can cr
38 JBirdAV8r: I've never met a code-enforcement employee or officer who knew anything about or really had any business on an airport. I'm still not convinced the c
39 CrimsonNL: I'm looking forward to HIS side of the story on this one. At first I though wth was this guy thinking, but then I didn't know it was this particular g
40 71Zulu: If he does end up with a criminal record, won't that have a serious effect on his international flying? As a 777 F/O, seems like he needs to be able t
41 Mayor: If he does end up with a criminal record, he'll surely be done with DL and I would imagine it would be difficult to find employment with many of the
42 Kaiarahi: He's charged with a City Code violation. City Codes are not criminal law. You don't get a criminal record for a parking ticket or failing to cut your
43 71Zulu: Uh, no. That is what the Code Officers originally tried to serve him with, but after he escalated the situation he now is facing criminal charges. ht
44 Kaiarahi: OK - I stand corrected. Aggravated assault with a propellor must be a first.
45 Maverick623: Careless and reckless. At the very least he'll be suspended for 12 months, although I suspect because of the purposefulness of his actions his certif
46 Kaiarahi: How do you know that - just interested?
47 777STL: Is there a "free" country in the world that doesn't have laws? As explained above, these laws have a purpose.
48 777STL: That's not what I was insinuating, but if you would read the original comment I was responding to - it was a bit patronizing and arrogant in and of i
Sponsor Message: 
From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2334 posts, 
From Hungary, joined Jul 2003, 4439 posts, 
From South Korea, joined May 2004, 2240 posts, 
(Our local "Code enforcement" officer busted me for that on more than one occasion...)
From Brazil, joined Sep 2006, 470 posts, 
From Canada, joined Aug 2008, 229 posts, 
From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 726 posts, 
Printer friendly format 
