PietPiloot From Netherlands, joined Aug 2006, 48 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3103 times:
I did expect Koreanair to increase their flights between AMS en ICN when KLM became part of Skyteam. However there seems to be no link between the two airlines. Koreanair does only operate 3x a week with an Airbus A330 and it even continues to Madrid after AMS. KLM has its own flights to ICN but there is no codeshare whatsoever.
My question is why? With Skyteam is sounds logic to cooperate and make better use of the AMS and ICN hubs.
BrightCedars From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 1291 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2992 times:
Some factors that may explain this are for example the situation in the cargo market.
Does KL fly a combi to ICN or do they fly a full pax aircraft? Do either KL, KE or both have dedicated freighter service on the route? I think the alliances are used mostly for passenger transport, but I'm not sure if cargo is part of the game.
There may also be legal limitations that have to first be overcome on either side.
PietPiloot From Netherlands, joined Aug 2006, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2610 times:
The strange thing is that there are codeshare flights of Koreanair from ICN to AMS via PRG on CSA. So if a customer books a ticket on KE from ICN to AMS on a day that KE doesn't fly to AMS, he or she will be routed via PRG in stead of on a direct fligtht on KLM which is just like CSA a Skyteam partner.
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4456 posts, RR: 33
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2523 times:
A factor can be that Seoul's location makes it a less interesting hub for frequent KLM flyers; only Japan is an interesting destination without much backtracking involved. SE Asia or Australia would mean a big detour from Europe via Seoul. So maybe because KLM won't give Korean much feed because Seoul is only interesting as final destination, Korean doesn't want to return a favor either.
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 27377 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2375 times:
Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 5): Australia would mean a big detour from Europe via Seoul.
That's not correct and is a common misconception. From many points in Europe, a routing to Australia via Seoul is virtually the same distance, and in some cases even shorter, than via other common connecting hubs. Using AMS-SYD for examplle: