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EK Consider To Add MAD, CPH, STR, TXL Among Others  
User currently offlineLIPZ From Austria, joined Jun 2006, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 6671 times:

Emirates-CEO Tim Clark told "Handelsblatt" that the carrier is considering increasing its worldwide network in the future in which Europe should play an important role.
Potential new target destinations such as Copenhagen and Madrid and more frequencies to other existing routes are under evaluation, he says.
He also refers that for years EK tried to start Berlin and Stuttgart service as well as increasing DUS/HAM/MUC/FRA routes in Germany. This has never been materialized since no traffic rights have been granted to EK by German government (with complicity of Lufthansa).
He hopes to obtain something more with the BBI's airport opening in 2011.

(source, in German)
http://www.handelsblatt.com/unterneh...ngt-in-lufthansas-luftraum;2485645

[Edited 2009-11-18 04:51:19]

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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 6658 times:
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Sounds interesting to see MAD to be add to the current EK network but is not Hainan Airlines planning to serve DXB with MAD in its future flight to HGH?

Regards,

Gerard



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User currently offlineTravelExec From Spain, joined Dec 2007, 449 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 6651 times:



Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 1):

Sounds interesting to see MAD to be add to the current EK network but is not Hainan Airlines planning to serve DXB with MAD in its future flight to HGH?

With rights to carry pax between MAD & DXB?


User currently offlineLondonCity From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 1485 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 6620 times:

What about AMS ? This main European gateway remains a notable omission on the EK passenger network.
Yes I know that KLM handles the bulk of the traffic out of AMS but as there are no other Gulf carriers serving Holland then surely EK could make a case for starting AMS services. Let's face it, there are many Dutch travellers who fly to Asia and Australia.


User currently offlineCptgirmaytesfa From Peru, joined Oct 2003, 406 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 6596 times:

If I am not mistaken EK uses its AMS frequencies for dedicated cargo

User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2721 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 6569 times:



Quoting LIPZ (Thread starter):
Madrid

I wonder why MAD is not yet added ? any special reason ?
What about OSL they should consider it being oil destination !

Alex



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User currently offlineJU068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2590 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 6547 times:
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What kind of operations are there now between Madrid and Dubai? What about Barcelona, could that work?
They certainly did a good job in Larnaca, last year they transported 100 000 passengers!


User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 1001 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 6505 times:



Quoting Cedars747 (Reply 5):
What about OSL they should consider it being oil destination !

If you look at my other reply in the thread below, you will see that EK will focus on CPH for now. No plans with regards to OSL for the time being.

Scandinavian Aviation #2 2009 (by Someone83 Apr 17 2009 in Civil Aviation)



Future flights: CPH-BKK-MNL; MNL-GUM-TKK-PNI-KSA-KWA-MAJ-HNL-LAX
User currently offlineMIgAiR54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1696 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 6448 times:



Quoting JU068 (Reply 6):
What kind of operations are there now between Madrid and Dubai? What about Barcelona, could that work?

No current service non-stop.

QR is doing a very good business in MAD now operates daily A330.

I think BCN could work, SQ is very happy with the current service and they are planning to go non-stop and continue the flight to MAD. Actually is SIN-MXP-BCN.

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 1):
Sounds interesting to see MAD to be add to the current EK network but is not Hainan Airlines planning to serve DXB with MAD in its future flight to HGH?

Yes, it has been discussed before, and I think they are seriously planning to launch, they want to use DXB for two routes HGH-DXB-LAD and HGH-DXB-MAD.


User currently offlineEham From Netherlands, joined Sep 2003, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 6428 times:

As stated above, AMS is still awaiting EK pax-service. At this moment all slots are used for the dedicated EK SkyCargo 744F's flying in and out daily (biggest SkyCargo airport in Europe I guess).

Rumours say Qatar Airways will start AMS service as from March29th on the DOH-AMS-DOH route on A330s.


User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 6175 times:
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Quoting TravelExec (Reply 2):
With rights to carry pax between MAD & DXB?

Yes.... and Boeing 767-300 and Airbus A330 considered...

Quoting JU068 (Reply 6):
What about Barcelona, could that work?

Yes, I think so. I my company there are a lot of demand to fly to DXB and actually we have signed special discounted fares with Air France but a direct flight... could be wonderful.

Regards,

Gerard



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User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2721 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5709 times:



Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 7):
If you look at my other reply in the thread below, you will see that EK will focus on CPH for now. No plans with regards to OSL for the time being.

Apparently there are no plans with regards to Oslo as a destination - "For the time being we will concentrate on Copenhagen", Tim Clark said.
I see,thanks for the info EBGflyer

Alex!!!



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User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2968 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5535 times:

sooner or later all these airports as well as other "secondary" cities in Europe will see Emirates non-stop service as they already started getting the A380 (and B777s) which on the other side free up aircrafts to be used on these routes. An example:
EK gets more A380s and deploy them to LHR
one of the four daily 77Ws get changed
the free 77W goes for instance to DUS (making it 1 77W 1 332)
the 332 from DUS will end up flying to a new destination

I think BBI will get EK service. The airport after its opening will need a new and attractive international carrier. eventhough LH is not pleased with this idea I think they will get the freedom rights granted by the German governement.


User currently offlineBrightCedars From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 1288 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4046 times:

With EK service at DUS and EY service at BRU, it's not like AMS is left in the cold, but indeed EK service at either AMS or BRU or even at both is long overdue. BRU even more when you consider that there is much less on offer towards the Eastern and Southern areas of the globe than there already are at AMS. EY do a good job but they don't offer as much of a network as EK would. Hell, LUX might work with an A330 in EK's business model!


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User currently offlineMigajos From Poland, joined Sep 2007, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3731 times:

No traffic rights granted for TXL is a good news for WAW since EK has been considering choosing one of those two. About 2-3 years ago WAW was one of the airports planned to be launched by EK. Than TXL seemed to have more chance and the topic of WAW disapeared. Maybe now there is a chance. Warsaw doesn't have any foreign, long haul carriers operating and none to Middle East or Far East.

User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5131 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3721 times:

What's the chance PRG will see EK in the future?

User currently offlineLondonCity From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 1485 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3604 times:

EDI ought to be on EK's list too. Yes, I realise that EK already flies to GLA (about 50 miles away) and to NCL (about 120 miles away) but, after all, EDI is the capital of Scotland and it is a more affluent city than the other two. EDI also has better road links than does GLA.

User currently offlineMigajos From Poland, joined Sep 2007, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3562 times:

But GLA is like 3 times bigger agglomeration than EDI. It also has to be taken into account...

User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3479 times:

I still believe it is a shame that EK doesn't fly to TXL. Same for EY. What the German and the local governments are doing is just silly. Berlin would profit from having access to the EK route-net, both in tourist and business terms. LH has been neglecting Berlin for many years, mainly sees it as a place to feed FRA and MUC with. (However, TXL is certainly not a good place to offer LH long-haul from, given that it is very hard to feed, due to no real transit area.)

Quoting Migajos (Reply 14):
No traffic rights granted for TXL is a good news for WAW

Yep, the general mismanagement over here will mean profit for nearby "competitors".


User currently offlineBasilFawlty From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 1325 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3460 times:



Quoting Eham (Reply 9):
Rumours say Qatar Airways will start AMS service as from March29th on the DOH-AMS-DOH route on A330s.

They indeed requested (and received) slots for a twice daily service operated by A330-300's.



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User currently offlineLondonCity From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 1485 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3418 times:



Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 19):
They indeed requested (and received) slots for a twice daily service operated by A330-300's.

That's good news if it happens. QR stands to do well both by carrying Dutch passengers and by tapping the market across the border in Germany.


User currently offlineNibog From Ireland, joined Apr 2009, 329 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3211 times:



Quoting LondonCity (Reply 16):
EDI ought to be on EK's list too

Firstly,happy "birthday" LondonCity,one year service  birthday   birthday   bigthumbsup 

What are the chances of DUB having an EK service,of has EY got there before them with their flights to Abu Dhabi and beyond!!!.


User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13011 posts, RR: 100
Reply 22, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3181 times:
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Quoting LIPZ (Thread starter):
He also refers that for years EK tried to start Berlin and Stuttgart service as well as increasing DUS/HAM/MUC/FRA routes in Germany. This has never been materialized since no traffic rights have been granted to EK by German government (with complicity of Lufthansa).
He hopes to obtain something more with the BBI's airport opening in 2011.

I doubt that would happen. EK gained rights early to the German airports that helped launch them to an early lead among the mid-east carriers. However, I doubt the rights will be expanded. Ek would love rights to STG, BER, and more frequencies to FRA and MUC (HAM and DUS to a lesser extent, in my opinion).

More German rights would be instant growth for EK. But it is unlikely to happen.

Quoting Cedars747 (Reply 5):
I wonder why MAD is not yet added ? any special reason ?

The bilateral was only signed a few years ago. By the time EK expanded their fleet enough to consider launching the sevice, the Spanish economy had tanked.

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3074 times:

Does EK still want to fly to TXL and Str after this?

Insane? German Authority Forces EK To Raise Prices (by Thorben Nov 19 2009 in Civil Aviation)


User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2721 posts, RR: 19
Reply 24, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2990 times:



Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 22):
The bilateral was only signed a few years ago. By the time EK expanded their fleet enough to consider launching the sevice, the Spanish economy had tanked.

Thanks Lightsaber for the info  Wink
For me it was strange since MAD is considered as a popular destination for the Arab world.

Alex



Tengo una pasion por la aviacion !لدي شغف للطيران !I have a passion for aviation !
25 LondonCity : I would imagine the chances are pretty slim owing to the economic downturn. I feel it's not just the question of the flight costs that are dissuading
26 GLAGAZ : Can't say I agree with that. GLA is extremely easy to get to from the motorway network and your only 15mins by bus to the city centre. Regarding the
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