OyKIE From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2494 posts, RR: 3 Posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 31544 times:
Quote: First Boeing 747-8 Freighter Leaves Paint Hangar
EVERETT, Wash., Nov. 18 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Boeing (NYSE: BA) moved the first 747-8 Freighter out of the paint hangar in Everett, Wash., Tuesday night sporting a special "light" livery.
Painted white with blue accents, the 747-8 Freighter unveiled a new twist on the Boeing Commercial Airplanes livery. It features an oversized "8" on the background of the tail as well as "747-8" on the belly.
The light livery, which saves time and expense co mpared to the full Boeing livery, will remain on the airplane until the flight-test program is completed. After flight test, it will be refurbished and delivered to a customer.
The first freighter will begin preparing for the necessary tests leading up to first flight in early 2010.
Picture will come soon!
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NA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 8618 posts, RR: 11 Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 31543 times:
I´m waiting for this since years. The most sought after moment in aviation since the first flight of the A380.
So its in the "light" livery as Boeing calls it. Hmm, in a few hours we´ll see if that looks good on a 747. I guess the beautiful Dreamliner livery will be reserved for the -8I next year then.
Kiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8308 posts, RR: 17 Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 31456 times:
Quoting Jetfuel (Reply 3): somebody must have a photo of the ultimate development of the most significant airliner in aviation history
Sure , there are plenty of photos of DC-3s out there on the web ... but I am not sure why you want to see one posted in this thread about the 747-8 freighter
Moderation in all things ... including moderation ;-)
Revelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 8069 posts, RR: 13 Reply 6, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 31473 times:
NA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 8618 posts, RR: 11 Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 31299 times:
Quoting Ychocky (Reply 5):
A video is available on Matt Cawby's KPAE blog.
Thanks a lot.
Makes me wonder why must Boeing have the same house colour than Airbus? Blue tail on white, blue logo. Hmmm.
Great to see it painted anyway, but I´d rather still have preferred the Dreamliner scheme on it. I think they chose the llight scheme not just to save some $$$, but also for the novelty effect.
The tail looks really nice but the body seems a bit plain... Too bad they wouldn't put the dreamliner scheme and just accept it as the new house colors... That would look nice.
"Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak."
EBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1856 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 31139 times:
The paint scheme looks kind of bland compared to what I'd expected to see. Makes you wonder if Boeing is really proud of this new addition to the product line.
TISTPAA727 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 289 posts, RR: 3 Reply 12, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 31126 times:
The tail reminds me of when Eastern used to paint 757 on the tail. I believe the font is even the same.
Quoting FRAspotter (Reply 9): The tail looks really nice but the body seems a bit plain...
I agree. I like the way they incorporated the 8. The single line the length of the body distorts the lines of the plane. That might be just because it was at night but still looked odd.
Dvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1710 posts, RR: 14 Reply 13, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 31063 times:
Quoting TISTPAA727 (Reply 12): The tail reminds me of when Eastern used to paint 757 on the tail. I believe the font is even the same.
It's Boeing's standard numerical characters. They've been using it for decades.
Manfredj From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1132 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 31007 times:
Did they choose this livery because it's easier to convert to the first customer's colors rather than having to strip all the dreamliner paint?
Looks sharp...what are the next stages of testing?
FRAspotter From South Korea, joined May 2004, 2240 posts, RR: 6 Reply 16, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 30900 times:
Quoting Manfredj (Reply 14): Did they choose this livery because it's easier to convert to the first customer's colors rather than having to strip all the dreamliner paint?
Actually that makes sense. I'm sure it costs less to keep the fuselage mostly white rather than a complex blue scheme especially since it will eventually be repainted anyway...
"Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak."
Dvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1710 posts, RR: 14 Reply 18, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 30838 times:
Quoting Manfredj (Reply 14): Did they choose this livery because it's easier to convert to the first customer's colors rather than having to strip all the dreamliner paint?
From the linked page above:
"The light livery, which saves time and expense compared to the full Boeing livery, will remain on the airplane until the flight-test program is completed. After flight test, it will be refurbished and delivered to a customer."
Starrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1016 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 30562 times:
What a disappointment. The dreamliner livery would have been incredible on this aircraft.
That looks like it was designed by an eight year old.
Jetfuel From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 1981 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 30500 times:
Quoting Starrion (Reply 20): What a disappointment. The dreamliner livery would have been incredible on this aircraft.
That looks like it was designed by an eight year old.
The light livery, which saves time and expense co mpared to the full Boeing livery, will remain on the airplane until the flight-test program is completed. After flight test, it will be refurbished and delivered to a customer
Where's the passion gone out of the airline industry? The smell of jetfuel and the romance of taking a flight....
Moriarty From Sweden, joined Jan 2006, 142 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 29452 times:
The engines and raked vinglets makes it look futuristic alright, adds a nice touch to an already wonderful a/c. But I kinda miss the long bulb though. The lack of it might make it look even more sleek but the long one makes it look bigger. Bigger is cooler.
Paintjob is ok, but not as good as it might have been.
IADCA From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2007, 940 posts, RR: 7 Reply 24, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 29447 times:
Can somebody tell me if the light livery, which saves time and expense compared to the full Boeing livery, will remain on the airplane until the flight-test program is completed? And what will happen after that? I can't seem to tell from this thread.
7673mech From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 619 posts, RR: 0 Reply 25, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 29292 times:
Quoting FRAspotter (Reply 16):
Actually that makes sense. I'm sure it costs less to keep the fuselage mostly white rather than a complex blue scheme especially since it will eventually be repainted anyway...
I believe the first three are going to Cargolux?
In that case they would need to be gray. I think I heard that the next two will be gray.
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 23608 posts, RR: 79 Reply 27, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 31132 times:
Quoting IADCA (Reply 24): Can somebody tell me if the light livery, which saves time and expense compared to the full Boeing livery, will remain on the airplane until the flight-test program is completed?
Yes.
Quoting IADCA (Reply 24): And what will happen after that?
It will be repainted in Cargolux colors and delivered to them.
Manfredj From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1132 posts, RR: 0 Reply 28, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 32180 times:
Quoting Columba (Reply 22): Great looking aircraft if now some more customers would order it !!!
I'm not worried about the cargo version as it really is the only VLA choice. I think we will see orders of the 748f for many years to come.
Matter of fact, I'm not even that worried about the pax version. I think we will see one of two scenarios.
1 The 748i will become like the 764 and only produce 30 or so sales.
2 The 748i will prove even more efficient than thought and we will see sales of 200 or more. I'm sure this will be the winning scenario
NA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 8618 posts, RR: 11 Reply 29, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 30821 times:
Quoting Manfredj (Reply 28): 2 The 748i will prove even more efficient than thought and we will see sales of 200 or more. I'm sure this will be the willing scenario
Fingers crossed Boeing is topping the 77W figures with the 748I in the end. Then it will sell for sure.
RobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3763 posts, RR: 20 Reply 32, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 27923 times:
Quoting IADCA (Reply 24): Can somebody tell me if the light livery, which saves time and expense compared to the full Boeing livery, will remain on the airplane until the flight-test program is completed? And what will happen after that? I can't seem to tell from this thread.
From the Boeing press release : The light livery, which saves time and expense co mpared to the full Boeing livery, will remain on the airplane until the flight-test program is completed. After flight test, it will be refurbished and delivered to a customer.
Acjflyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 414 posts, RR: 8 Reply 33, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 27099 times:
The paint looks fine, and honestly if it meant airlines could start making money and stay profitable if they all went Eurowhite then so be it. It's better than the mess a lot of them are in now.
Isitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 28 Reply 34, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 26211 times:
Quoting TK787 (Reply 17): It is beautiful. You know what this looks like? The next Air Force One.
Its not out of the q. The air force is sniffin' around for a new AFO which will probably be in service 2013 or 2014.
If two people agree on EVERYTHING, then one isn't necessary.
WestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2075 posts, RR: 8 Reply 35, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 25999 times:
In the other thread, F9mechanic noted that (not visible in photo) she also has "747-8" painted under the belly.
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AndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 50 Reply 36, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 25719 times:
A Dreamliner livery with a Cargolux tail would have been friggin awesome. This is a fuggly livery, but hopefully it will be in full Cargolux colors soon.
Aesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 3001 posts, RR: 3 Reply 37, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 25683 times:
Quoting Moriarty (Reply 23): The engines and raked vinglets makes it look futuristic alright, adds a nice touch to an already wonderful a/c. But I kinda miss the long bulb though. The lack of it might make it look even more sleek but the long one makes it look bigger. Bigger is cooler. Smile
Funny, I almost like the 747 stretched like that and with the little bump. The 747 with the big bump is quite ugly for my taste, like a hunchback.
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PlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4029 posts, RR: 28 Reply 38, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 24806 times:
Quoting IADCA (Reply 24): Can somebody tell me if the light livery, which saves time and expense compared to the full Boeing livery, will remain on the airplane until the flight-test program is completed? And what will happen after that? I can't seem to tell from this thread.
4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2708 posts, RR: 12 Reply 39, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 24259 times:
Does Boeing have any plan in place to make the transition from test aircraft to customer delivery craft a little easier? I'd guess that there would be some cost savings by doing so.
IADCA From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2007, 940 posts, RR: 7 Reply 40, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 24235 times:
Quoting Stitch (Reply 27): Quoting IADCA (Reply 24):
Can somebody tell me if the light livery, which saves time and expense compared to the full Boeing livery, will remain on the airplane until the flight-test program is completed?
Yes.
Quoting IADCA (Reply 24):
And what will happen after that?
It will be repainted in Cargolux colors and delivered to them.
Please report to the maintenance hangar to have your sarcasm detector re-calibrated. Typical readouts following re-calibration will come out look something like this:
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 20630 posts, RR: 62 Reply 41, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 24886 times:
Quoting Starrion (Reply 20): What a disappointment. The dreamliner livery would have been incredible on this aircraft.
It already looks incredible on a 747-400. There's a flying example, so why do we need another?
Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 36): A Dreamliner livery with a Cargolux tail would have been friggin awesome.
EBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1856 posts, RR: 2 Reply 42, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 23810 times:
Another point worth stating: This is a cargo bird, not a passenger plane, and cargo birds don't tend to have flamboyant paint schemes when compared to their passenger hauling brothers; at least not as commonly. So, perhaps Boeing was thinking in those terms as well and wanted a paint scheme that screamed "Cargo". Any thoughts?
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 20630 posts, RR: 62 Reply 43, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 23724 times:
Quoting EBJ1248650 (Reply 42): Another point worth stating: This is a cargo bird, not a passenger plane, and cargo birds don't tend to have flamboyant paint schemes when compared to their passenger hauling brothers; at least not as commonly. So, perhaps Boeing was thinking in those terms as well and wanted a paint scheme that screamed "Cargo". Any thoughts?
I personally believe they will paint no more aircraft in the dreamliner scheme, ever. They will give various reasons why up until the day they formally introduce a new house livery. This could come with the launch of the 777NG in 2010 (my estimate).
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
Airplanenut From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 643 posts, RR: 1 Reply 44, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 22571 times:
I drove by the bird this morning, and must say I think the colors, while simple, are classy and look good. It's not the Dreamliner scheme, but it looks nice, and I really like the tail.
A380900 From France, joined Dec 2003, 935 posts, RR: 1 Reply 46, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week ago) and read 19901 times:
Is the tail smaller than on the 747-400? Are vertical and horizontal stabilizers the same size on the 747-8? (they look somewhat smaller to me)
Usually stretch versions don't need as much control surface. But maybe a redesign of the tail to take advantage of this would have been too costly? If you have too much authority, you can just limit the deflection... Inelegant but certainly low cost solution.
VirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4502 posts, RR: 52 Reply 50, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week ago) and read 19737 times:
Quoting EBJ1248650 (Reply 11): The paint scheme looks kind of bland compared to what I'd expected to see. Makes you wonder if Boeing is really proud of this new addition to the product line.
As I noted in 747-8 Rollout - Thursday Night 12th NOV (by CCA Nov 12 2009 in Civil Aviation) it isn't unprecedented to have a derivative of an existing Boeing model painted in a light paint job as opposed to the complete house livery, and I don't think we could accuse Boeing of not being proud of those aircraft:
EBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1856 posts, RR: 2 Reply 52, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 18085 times:
Quoting VirginFlyer (Reply 50): As I noted in 747-8 Rollout - Thursday Night 12th NOV (by CCA Nov 12 2009 in Civil Aviation) it isn't unprecedented to have a derivative of an existing Boeing model painted in a light paint job as opposed to the complete house livery, and I don't think we could accuse Boeing of not being proud of those aircraft:
YXwatcherMKE From United States of America, joined May 2007, 768 posts, RR: 2 Reply 53, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 16776 times:
Yes it is somewhat plain paint job, but it still one majestic Aircraft I have ever seen and it is even more so now with the "8". I can't wait to see it flying. Go Boeing!
I miss the 60's & 70's when you felt like a guest on the plane not cattle like today
Simpilot459 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 131 posts, RR: 0 Reply 54, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 16242 times:
I think it fits a cargo a/c well. They're already pretty bland without windows, so why not have a livery that exploits that?
Also, What does the bottom look like? Any pics of that?
Travelhound From Australia, joined exactly 4 years ago today! , 503 posts, RR: 0 Reply 55, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 16239 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 43): I personally believe they will paint no more aircraft in the dreamliner scheme, ever. They will give various reasons why up until the day they formally introduce a new house livery. This could come with the launch of the 777NG in 2010 (my estimate).
OyKIE From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2494 posts, RR: 3 Reply 56, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 14470 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 43): I personally believe they will paint no more aircraft in the dreamliner scheme, ever. They will give various reasons why up until the day they formally introduce a new house livery. This could come with the launch of the 777NG in 2010 (my estimate).
What I liked about the dreamliner livery is that it shows the heritage of McDonnell Douglas. If you look at the MD-90 factory scheme it hav blue and green as the new Boeing livery. But maybe they are more scared of the MDC heritage, since the MD-11 did not initially meet its performance target? So if your reasoning is correct that they move away from this livery, I tend to believe that they are moving avway from the MDC heritage. The 787 is the first MDC Boeing plane.
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Oshkosh1 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 83 posts, RR: 0 Reply 58, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 13414 times:
Just another reason I miss living at Paine Field(Literally...I lived in the former Naval Housing area between the two runways on the departure end of the 16's to the south.) We were so close that, with a north wind, the stench of Jet A (and noise)would be almost overwhelming when the birds were at the test stands. I moved right after the Trip7 was launched.
Richard28 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 1548 posts, RR: 7 Reply 59, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 13006 times:
is the reason for the plain paintjob because it weighs less, and will therefore help with the fuel consumption figures during flight tests and certification?
747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 1473 posts, RR: 6 Reply 60, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 12515 times:
It's a beauty,
but this inexpensive livery on this magnificent and underrated aircraft is another financial offer donated by the 747-8 project to the "all targets missing", overrated and money absorbing 787 project.
Aesthetically, the livery could be better.
But, there is second opportunity on the passenger 747-8I, with the even more extended stretched upper deck. I think that aircraft has more body and deserves a better paint-job. Hopefully the financial crises at Boeing will be over at that time and some money can be allocated for a more pronounced livery.
I hope it's the last 747-8 contribution, but IMO, we will see more delays in the 747-8F certification process, caused by the "first right of all resources" to the parallel 787 certification.
P.S. Are there already High resolution pictures (without logging in as a journalist) available on the net ?
Nomadd22 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1350 posts, RR: 0 Reply 63, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 11286 times:
I thought we'd have to wait for the -8i to see something really special, but I haven't seen many planes that look like they just want to fly like this one does. Maybe it's that simple blue stripe, but I can't believe how gracefull something that size looks.
Revelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 8069 posts, RR: 13 Reply 64, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 11094 times:
Quoting Nomadd22 (Reply 63): I can't believe how gracefull something that size looks.
Manfredj From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1132 posts, RR: 0 Reply 66, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 10611 times:
Quoting 747classic (Reply 60): But, there is second opportunity on the passenger 747-8I, with the even more extended stretched upper deck. I think that aircraft has more body and deserves a better paint-job. Hopefully the financial crises at Boeing will be over at that time and some money can be allocated for a more pronounced livery.
I hope it's the last 747-8 contribution, but IMO, we will see more delays in the 747-8F certification process, caused by the "first right of all resources" to the parallel 787 certification.
If you think about it, the cargo version is well suited to a broad white paint job. The blue line accentuates the curves of the airplane while giving way to the extreme length of the 748f. The more I look at it, the more I think they made the right choice with this paint scheme.
I don't think we'll see much in the way of delays. As the final wing join fix on 787 is coming to an end, some resources will be eased up to allow both airplanes to fly in short order. Compared to the 787, I think the 747 will pass the certification with flying colors and enjoy a short period of time from first flight to its initial customer.
After seeing the final product, it's all coming together for me. This thing looks amazing! A moderinzation of a classic which will prove itself a best seller for another 10 years. Let's not forget Boeing have made the changes where it MATTERS MOST. The 747 already enjoys one of the fastes cruise speeds of any sub sonic jetliner. Now they have made progress is bring fuel burn down with her new engines and wings.
Aesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 3001 posts, RR: 3 Reply 67, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 10448 times:
Quoting Manfredj (Reply 66): I don't think we'll see much in the way of delays. As the final wing join fix on 787 is coming to an end, some resources will be eased up to allow both airplanes to fly in short order. Compared to the 787, I think the 747 will pass the certification with flying colors and enjoy a short period of time from first flight to its initial customer.
As a derivative, the 748 won't have to do a real certification process, correct me if I'm wrong ?
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Tarheelwings From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 168 posts, RR: 0 Reply 68, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10251 times:
747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 1473 posts, RR: 6 Reply 69, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 10207 times:
Quoting Aesma (Reply 67): As a derivative, the 748 won't have to do a real certification process, correct me if I'm wrong ?
A lot of "grandfather rights" will be granted.
I expect that she (the Queen) will be certified as a subtype on the 747 type certificate (A20WE).
However there are a lot of differences, that have to be tested before the certification is granted.
Important changes relative to the 747-400.
- fuselage length
- adapted wing platform, with raked wingtips.
- adapted flight control system.
- addition of an emergency hydraulic system (RAT)
- increased aircraft weights.
- GEnx-2B engines.
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 20630 posts, RR: 62 Reply 71, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 9614 times:
Quoting Richard28 (Reply 59): is the reason for the plain paintjob because it weighs less, and will therefore help with the fuel consumption figures during flight tests and certification?
Maybe to save money on the test, but it won't help make the plane look like it performs better, if that's what you mean.
Quoting Aesma (Reply 70): What about static and fatigue tests ?
No. Just modeled on paper and in computer to "prove" it is sufficient.
This is one reason the that initial wing test for a plane like the 787 is so important to get right. It will be baseline for the rest of the program's life, in all derivatives including a 787-9, 787-10, 787-F, 787-8/9LR, etc.
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Skytaxi From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 141 posts, RR: 0 Reply 73, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 9545 times:
Quoting Richard28 (Reply 59): is the reason for the plain paintjob because it weighs less, and will therefore help with the fuel consumption figures during flight tests and certification?
As far as I know, white paint weighs the same as any other color of paint. The generic livery is for cost savings. It is very expensive to paint an airplane with a complex livery.
Tdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 11032 posts, RR: 72 Reply 75, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9254 times:
Quoting Richard28 (Reply 59): is the reason for the plain paintjob because it weighs less, and will therefore help with the fuel consumption figures during flight tests and certification?
Fuel consumption has weight factored in...altering the paint job weight won't change the fuel consumption figures, just change the OEW for a particular airframe.
Quoting Skytaxi (Reply 73): As far as I know, white paint weighs the same as any other color of paint. The generic livery is for cost savings. It is very expensive to paint an airplane with a complex livery.
Complex liveries have multiple layers...most liveries are done as additive, not subtractive or matched, so the more colours you have, the more layers, and the more weight.
WestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2075 posts, RR: 8 Reply 76, posted (2 years 6 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 8510 times:
Randy's blog has a new posting with some more 747-8 photos. In the 4th photo from the bottom of the page there is a clear view of what user CCA observed were the attachment points for a tail-skid for Vmu testing.
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Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 23608 posts, RR: 79 Reply 78, posted (2 years 6 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7846 times:
Quoting StudeDave (Reply 77): And that's why the Space Shuttle had it's main fuel tank painted white just two times, right?
The mustard yellow is actually the color of the tank's insulation jacket, which is now just coated with a clear primer. The white paint was omitted both to save weight and because they did not need to worry about solar heating and cryogenic boil off (which is why it had been done).
N14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2055 posts, RR: 26 Reply 81, posted (2 years 6 months 17 hours ago) and read 7383 times:
There is a nice picture with N747EX in daylight (well, what you call daylight in November): http://paineairport.com/kpae2588.htm
I don't know, is it just me? When seeing pictures of N747EX I always think "hey, the winglets are missing" for some seconds.
Manfredj From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1132 posts, RR: 0 Reply 85, posted (2 years 6 months ago) and read 6226 times:
Quoting WestWing (Reply 76): Randy's blog has a new posting with some more 747-8 photos.
The photo of 748 in the paint hanger looks as if the wings are laden with fuel? Is that possible?
Quoting VC10er (Reply 74): Screw the livery. This 747 looks as close to the Starship Enterprise as we may get in our lives.
Those wings! Those engines! I may cry!!!
ADent From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 959 posts, RR: 0 Reply 87, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5118 times:
Quote: Boeing successfully completed the first engine runs for the 747-8 Freighter. The milestone marks another step in the 747 program's steady progress in preparing for flight test.
WestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2075 posts, RR: 8 Reply 88, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4537 times:
Randy Tinseth posted on his blog today with pics of engine test and a nice video of the aircraft painting,
Unfortunately, no view in the video showing the belly 747-8 titles. Here is a link to the item: Power of Four.
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