Plainplane From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 803 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (3 years 6 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 10048 times:
Are the aircraft going to be pulled from service so that the issues can be resolved or are these aircraft going to keep flying with the disabled system until their next scheduled checks?
Luv2cattlecall From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1648 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (3 years 6 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9989 times:
Quoting Plainplane (Reply 1): Are the aircraft going to be pulled from service so that the issues can be resolved or are these aircraft going to keep flying with the disabled system until their next scheduled checks?
Good question. Part of me thinks that they'll be pulled, since 6 of the lines are at LiveTV's hangars in MCO... but I'm curious as to where/what facilities in Houston they'll be using for the 7th.
Any news on what the wiring issue is? Must be serious if it takes that long to fix.. I thought it took about 2-3 days to install the entire thing?
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Nws2002 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 781 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (3 years 6 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 9871 times:
Quoting Plainplane (Reply 1): Are the aircraft going to be pulled from service so that the issues can be resolved or are these aircraft going to keep flying with the disabled system until their next scheduled checks?
They will be pulled from revenue service as the lines are available to do the work. Until that happens they will continue to fly with the system disabled.
If we immediately grounded all of the aircraft with LiveTV installed there would be way too many flight cancellations. There is also no reason to pull them immediately, without power to the system there is no safety concerns.
AA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5340 posts, RR: 11 Reply 5, posted (3 years 6 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8936 times:
Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 4): Sooo, my flights next week on Continental will NOT have any TV?
That's not likely. The only aircraft Conti has with LiveTV are the 737-900ER's, plus a handful of 737-800 and 737-900 aircraft. The rest of the 737G/8/9, and all 757-300s have overhead LCD monitors, and IFE is going on without interruption.
Similarly, the widebodies and 757-200 fleet have PTV's, but these are not the LiveTV system, and are not affected.
So, the answer to your question is that the laws of probability are in YOUR favor.
Now that we've all said LiveTV, wasn't it DirecTV that CO got? I can't remember- I haven't been fortunate enough to have it on any of my CO flights yet.
Also, the thread on flyertalk is reporting that there was actually an in-flight fire in the cabin of an aircraft. Exciting day! Don't know whether that's true or not.
AA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5340 posts, RR: 11 Reply 6, posted (3 years 6 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8911 times:
I'd like to edit my last post, but since the a.net login feature hasn't really worked in the last year or more, I can't.
So all that to say that the thread over at FT is saying that there probably was NOT a fire, and that it was irresponsible of the flight attendant who mentioned it to have said anything about a fire.
So, it's all conjecture, no one really seems to know.
AA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5340 posts, RR: 11 Reply 7, posted (3 years 6 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8886 times:
Okay, now we have a definitive answer- there DEFINITELY WAS NOT A FIRE.
There wasn't even an incident. It was all a rumor that, apparently, started among F/A's.
It's DirecTV programming but LiveTV is the organization who installs the equipment specifically for use in airliners. They are a subsidiary of JetBlue.
IAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4722 posts, RR: 25 Reply 10, posted (3 years 6 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8193 times:
Quoting ORD2PHL (Reply 9): It's DirecTV programming but LiveTV is the organization who installs the equipment specifically for use in airliners. They are a subsidiary of JetBlue.
That is way to involved for a simple mind such as mine! All the literature onboard and in-flight TV Guide says DirecTV, as well as the website.
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OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 24918 posts, RR: 60 Reply 11, posted (3 years 6 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8110 times:
Quoting ADXMatt (Thread starter): It seems that there is a wiring issue that was discovered.
Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 5): Also, the thread on flyertalk is reporting that there was actually an in-flight fire in the cabin of an aircraft. Exciting day! Don't know whether that's true or not.
Thats extremely worrying.
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Cadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9081 posts, RR: 34 Reply 12, posted (3 years 6 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7694 times:
Quoting ORD2PHL (Reply 9): It's DirecTV programming but LiveTV is the organization who installs the equipment specifically for use in airliners. They are a subsidiary of JetBlue.
Is this issue limited to CO aircraft?
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FLY2TUS From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 65 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (3 years 6 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5020 times:
Quoting Plainplane (Reply 1): Are the aircraft going to be pulled from service so that the issues can be resolved or are these aircraft going to keep flying with the disabled system until their next scheduled checks?
From what our memo said the other day, all the aircraft should be completed by the end of November, so they're obviously getting a fix pretty quick like.
ADXMatt From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 933 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (3 years 6 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4804 times:
Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 5): Also, the thread on flyertalk is reporting that there was actually an in-flight fire in the cabin of an aircraft. Exciting day! Don't know whether that's true or not.
There was NO fire and no incident.
From what I heard it was during a routine inspection they discovered the type of wire installed was not the same type that was agreed to and approved by the FAA.
IAHcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3308 posts, RR: 45 Reply 18, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4224 times:
As of the moment I see five aircraft undergoing fixes... ETR's three days after entering the hanger.... must be a lot of wire to replace...
COEWR2587 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 603 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3948 times:
Industrybuff From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2003, 346 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3856 times:
hi all
does anyone in the know, have any updates on how many 739s will be refitted by Christmas day. Im flying opn a 739ER on this day and hope to have a TV working, or I wont be very happy at all...
Cadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9081 posts, RR: 34 Reply 21, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3852 times:
MrSkyGuy From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1203 posts, RR: 3 Reply 22, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3836 times:
Quoting IAHcsr (Reply 18): As of the moment I see five aircraft undergoing fixes... ETR's three days after entering the hanger.... must be a lot of wire to replace... boxedin
I can't even begin to wrap my mind around the expense.. I'll be there before Wednesday, so I'll see what I can find out.
Say, didn't LiveTV belong to another avionics company before JetBlue bought them out?
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Frictionfool From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 11 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3584 times:
I flew CO last week CLE -> LAX on Nov 20 and return on Nov 27 ONT -> IAH -> CLE, all on 737-900ERs. They were all equipped with DirecTV, but were completely turned off. To summarize:
1. No video of any kind.
2. The usual audio channels were off
3. The powerports were nonfunctioning as well.
I was upgraded to First on the return flights, and the powerports there were off too.
CO picked on opportune time (T-giving week) to do this. I would've appreciated a little advance notice from CO. We were travelling with our 2 young kids, and the DirecTV would've made the trip easier on us all. I had a couple movies on DVD I could play on my laptop, but the battery ran out before the end of the movie. And no inflight recharge possible!
I enjoyed the DirecTV on these birds during some transcon flights in Aug and Sept, and was really looking forward to these flights with the family. Way to go CO!
IAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4722 posts, RR: 25 Reply 24, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3536 times:
Quoting Frictionfool (Reply 23): CO picked on opportune time (T-giving week) to do this.
I'm sure CO really wanted to do this and decided to wait until you were flying!
Sounds like you may be a little upset with CO? Would you rather have had issues with the aircraft in flight while watching your TV program?
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25 Nws2002: CO really didn't have a choice. The system was not up to FAA specs and had to be disabled or the aircraft grounded. LiveTV made a mistake during the
26 COEWR2587: anyone figure the chance of it operational again by mid-December/ Christmas travel?
27 Nws2002: There are several aircraft already completed, and the last bulletin I saw said all aircraft would be completed by today, don't know if that's happene
28 COEWR2587: It looks like, according to the flight status section on their website, that they are turning back on the TV and power ports tomorrow, Thursday Dec. 3
29 Industrybuff: COEWR2587 - where do you see that information ? Industrybuff
30 COEWR2587: If you go to flight status section and search for flights. It gives details about IFE and other inflight stuff. My flight to EWR from PHX tomorrow is
31 COTPARampGuy: Both planes that were RONs here in Tampa with the system had it activated. Ships 518 and 290.
32 BACCALA: As of December 1st 7 of 108 737-800 are complete as well as only one 737-900
33 Nyc77k : Is there anyway somebody can tell me if CO 041, EWR-SFO on dec 22 will have live tv?
34 Star_world: You can tell for yourself, 2 days out, by checking on the CO website under flight status. What is the a/c type?
35 Nyc77k: Listed as 739-ER originally (so that would be yes), but on ticket reads 739. Was wondering if there was a way to check other than two days before. Tha
36 Lincoln: Even if you could check more than two days before, aircraft assignments don't change as frequently as some other airlines, but it's not exactly as un
37 IAHFLYR: I've never seen the ER listed on the reservation for any 900's that I've flown. They switch aircraft so often it is almost a complete guess which Shi
38 IAHFLYR: Don't tell me they are still making you pay for the TV in first, next you'll try to convince us you are paying for your meal as well. Only you Lincol
39 IAHcsr: Ships 401-412 are 739s. 413-442 are 739ERs Ship 402 is the only 739 with LTV so far... the the focus is on the 738s There are now 4 or 5 Mx lines in
40 AznMadSci: How's the status of those planes with LiveTV that were temporarily disconnected. Have most returned back to service and up running again?
41 ADXMatt: If the Live TV is installed it has been retrofitted with the new wiring and has been turned back on. This was completed by the begining of december.
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