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Speyer Museum Aircraft? A Question  
User currently offlineFlyMeToTheMoon From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 242 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 8 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2686 times:

Need a suggestion - I am driving from Brussels to Austria in Dec. for a week of ski in the Alps and I was thinking about making a stop at the Speyer and Sinsheim museums. Couple of questions:
1. how much time should I allocate for each?
2. if I can only see one which would you recommend?
3. are they worth the time and effort?


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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10638 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2652 times:

They are certainly worth a visit, especially as you´re passing that area anyway. If its me I´d gladly give away one day of skiieng to see one of the museums.
As I´ve been to both I must say its hard to say which one to recommend more. Its 7 or 8 years since I´ve been to Sinsheim so I cant tell you recent developments. Sinsheim has more exhibition pieces and the Concorde. The planes are more cramped together than is the case in Speyer. Speyers LH 747 is stunningly presented though when I was there two years ago it was much weather beaten - which the case for most outside exhibits in both museums. Also the An-22 in Speyer is something very special. If you like cars too Sinsheim is better although Speyer has many oldtimers too. For each museum you need 1/2 a day at least, if you want to see both in one you´ll be in a haste and the short daylight in winter will make that worse. Its less than one hour drive between both museums.
One thing I would ask both museums to take more care of is the exterior cleaning at least of its main attractions.


User currently offlineBrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4116 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2601 times:

If you had to choose I would suggest Sinsheim as it both the Russian TU-144 and the Concorde are both on display plus a number of other aircraft as well as a tremendous automobile exhibit.


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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4302 posts, RR: 36
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2422 times:

If you search the pictures for both you can see which aircraft are where, they are a close match. It depends like if you want to see a Viscount or the Concorde etc where to go.

Another question, I want to see these musuems too, probably next spring, is it easy to do with public transport or should I rent a car?



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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10638 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2371 times:



Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 3):
Another question, I want to see these musuems too, probably next spring, is it easy to do with public transport or should I rent a car?

I guess Sinsheim is better by car, but the Speyer museum is "in" the historic city of Speyer, which has a cathedral of quite some interest too besides a train station. Speyer is a bit more than one hour south by car from Frankfurt (1 1/2 hours by train), Sinsheim one hour north of Stuttgart. One thing I´m sure is that both cannot directly be reached by fast ICE trains, at least from Mannheim, Heidelberg resp. Stuttgart you have to take regional trains.


User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4302 posts, RR: 36
Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2218 times:

Also Hermeskeil can be worth a visit, they have a Comet, VC-10, Viscount, Il-14, Il-18, Tu-134 and more. That's closer to Dusseldorf I think so that might be a detour this time.


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User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 774 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2053 times:

Speyer is easy to reach by public transport (and Sinsheim also ! )

If you wnat to see both places your "base" should be Mannheim from where you reach both Speyer and Sinsheim by "S-Bahn" train (both are ca. 30/40 mins from Mannheim Hbf - albeit in almost opposite direction ...)
If you want to see both places in one day you´ll loose a lot of time for transportation if using public transport. (expect that Speyer-Sinsheim will take about 1.5 - 2 hrs depending on your connection at Mannheim Hbf where you need to change trains)

So, for a one-day-get-it-all you need a car !

@FlyMeToTheMoon

Since you have a car you are in no trouble...!
When driving from Belgium you will certainly drive along the A61. Speyer is right at the A61 !
After you finish the Speyer visit your next stop Sinsheim is about 35 mins by car (continuing in the same direction on the A61 until it ends ( and connects to the A6 towards Heilbronn/Nürnberg)
The road distance Speyer-Sinsheim is about 50Km / 30mi

Quoting FlyMeToTheMoon (Thread starter):
1. how much time should I allocate for each?
2. if I can only see one which would you recommend?
3. are they worth the time and effort?

1) If you stick to aircraft both could be done in about 2-3hrs each

2) Depends what you like...
Speyer: AN-22, B747-200, Dassault Mercure, VFW-614, AN-26, Buran (russian "Space Shuttle")
Sinsheim: Concorde, TU-144, IL-18, TU-134, Ju-52
(both museums also have military a/c)

3) Well, that´s the most difficult question ...
Despite i live "next door" to both I´ve been in both museums twice and i think that´s "enough" for me ...

Anyway: If you need more details you may contact me by PM (i live almost half way between both places)



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User currently offlineFcogafa From United Kingdom, joined May 2008, 768 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1947 times:

[quote=MEA-707,reply=5]Also Hermeskeil can be worth a visit, they have a Comet, VC-10, Viscount, Il-14, Il-18, Tu-134 and more. That's closer to Dusseldorf I think so that might be a detour this time.[/quote

It is much closer to Hahn!


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