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IY Back To Europe  
User currently offlineLGWGate49 From Sudan, joined Nov 2009, 138 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4704 times:

Apologies if posted before, but good news Yemenia are returning to Europe. According to OAG I believe the first flights are:

SAHFRA IY740 A330-200 16Dec09
SAHLHR IY742 B737-800 16Dec09
SAHCDG IY748 B737-800 19Dec09

They're all 1 stoppers. Does anyone know where they fly via?

Many thanks,

LGWGate49


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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19229 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4686 times:



Quoting LGWGate49 (Thread starter):
They're all 1 stoppers. Does anyone know where they fly via?

I believe that LHR used to be via CAI.



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User currently offlineBasilFawlty From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 1326 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4610 times:

LHR and CDG will operate via CAI.
FRA will operate via FCO.



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User currently offlineLIPZ From Austria, joined Jun 2006, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4593 times:



Quoting LGWGate49 (Thread starter):
SAHFRA IY740 A330-200 16Dec09

via FCO

Quoting LGWGate49 (Thread starter):

SAHLHR IY742 B737-800 16Dec09

via CAI

Quoting LGWGate49 (Thread starter):

SAHCDG IY748 B737-800 19Dec09

via CAI


User currently offlinePEET7G From Hungary, joined Jan 2007, 695 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4536 times:

Wow...what a little Airbus order can do to your adjudication in Europe, eh?  Wink (sarcasm off)


Peet7G
User currently offlineMozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2182 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4478 times:

The pull-out to me looked very much like a reaction to public uproar in France after the crash at Moroni.

Shocking how a couple of uneducated morons who don't have a clue about aviation (for instance, they complained about "being shifted to an old dysfunctional plane at Sanaa to operate the second leg of our Paris-Moroni flight", without ever grasping the notion of a connection that has two flight numbers and involves a change of planes, often a change of aircraft type as well) built so much pressure that an airline decides to stop serving that destination.


User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4103 times:
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Quoting LGWGate49 (Thread starter):
SAHFRA IY740 A330-200 16Dec09



Quoting LIPZ (Reply 3):
via FCO

Twice a week flights from FRA to SAH with the same flight number.

Tuesday flight via CAI operated with 737-800 equipment; Saturday flight via FCO operated with A330 equipment.

Regards,

Gerard



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User currently offlineTR1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 271 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4014 times:



Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 2):
LHR and CDG will operate via CAI.
FRA will operate via FCO.

Does anyone know if IY will have fifth freedom rights on these segments?


User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3861 times:
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Quoting TR1 (Reply 7):
Does anyone know if IY will have fifth freedom rights on these segments?

No, Yemenia don't have fifth freedom rights to operate intra-european flights nor to Egypt from FRA, LON, CDG.

Regards,

Gerard



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User currently offlineNormie999 From United Kingdom, joined May 2009, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3553 times:

Looks like this isn't happening just yet. jimyvr at airlineroute.net has up-to-date info on this -

http://airlineroute.net/2009/11/24/iy-eu-update/

A shame really as my conspiracy antenna was beginning to twitch about what PEET7G was alluding to at reply 4.


User currently offlineLGWGate49 From Sudan, joined Nov 2009, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3491 times:

Thanks Normie999, I'll need to keep an eye on it.

A real shame if true as I've always enjoyed flying IY from LHR to SAH, with a friendly J service. Guess it's back to the long frustrating transits via the Gulf.



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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3394 times:
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Quoting Normie999 (Reply 9):
Looks like this isn't happening just yet. jimyvr at airlineroute.net has up-to-date info on this -

http://airlineroute.net/2009/11/24/i...date/

I think someone is wrong... in Amadeus there are information and availability for flights of IY starting on December 16 as follows:

1 IY 743 F3 A4 Y5 M4 NX Q4 K4 LHR 4 SAH 1705 0530+1E1.738 9:25
V4 TR HC LC
1 IY 741 F3 AX Y5 M4 Q4 K4 V4 FRA 2 SAH 1130 2200 E1.330 8:30
T4 HR L0
(...)

And flights are bookable...

Regards,

Gerard



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User currently offlineNormie999 From United Kingdom, joined May 2009, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3232 times:

Yup - jimyvr has posted an update. Euro service is now showing everywhere except Sabre.

http://airlineroute.net/2009/11/25/iy-eu-update2/


User currently offlineCXA330300 From South Africa, joined May 2004, 1562 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3138 times:

Interesting that they are doing one stops-I would have figured that LHR at least had the traffic for a non-stop...

Quoting Mozart (Reply 5):

Shocking how a couple of uneducated morons who don't have a clue about aviation (for instance, they complained about "being shifted to an old dysfunctional plane at Sanaa to operate the second leg of our Paris-Moroni flight", without ever grasping the notion of a connection that has two flight numbers and involves a change of planes, often a change of aircraft type as well) built so much pressure that an airline decides to stop serving that destination.

It doesn't change the fact that the plane was rather dysfunctional-this was noted by safety inspecters, who are far more qualified than we are to say anything. And most of the people did know that the flight require a change.



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User currently offlineRutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2995 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3050 times:
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CXA330300

I think the reason for the Cairo stop is performance and runway length at Hot and High Sanaa which is over 7000 ft above sea level.

Traffic between the UK -Sanaa-Aden is certainly high yield however the local in-stabilities make it a destinations best avoided if at all possible.

Fact is the tribal area to the North East of Aden and up to the Saudi border is among the most dangerous in the world for foreigners.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25311 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2972 times:



Quoting Rutankrd (Reply 14):
I think the reason for the Cairo stop is performance and runway length at Hot and High Sanaa which is over 7000 ft above sea level.

They should operate their longhaul flights with a stop at sea level Aden (ADE), just 165 nm from SAH, and in that case they'd be able to carry traffic on both the domestic and international sector and avoid the CAI stop. ADE runway almost as long as SAH. Having to operating to Europe with a stop in CAI wth no traffic rights CAI-Europe seems like a very inefficient and uneconomic operation.


User currently offlineHeeBeeGB From Finland, joined Sep 2007, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2867 times:

When IY operated into LGW from Sanaa with their A310s about ten years ago now did it have a stop en-route or was it direct?

User currently offlineRutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2995 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2739 times:
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Yemania has always scheduled a stop on the Sanaa-London route.
Its been Larnaca/Cairo ,Istanbul and Aden at times.
If memory serves its even been combined with the Paris operation at some point.

Alyemda (The old South Yeman airline) briefly flew a weekly Aden-Haethrow direct service with an A310 before the two Yemans merged many moons ago.

I say merged it very loose federation and both Aden and Sanaa claim to be the true capital with much rivalry and part of the tribal feudalism rife in this area.


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