JWMD123 From Ireland, joined May 2006, 867 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4762 times:
Interesting choice for a new base.
It amazes me how Oslo can maintain 3 airports with a population of about 1.3m (Urban).
I notice some of the routes are the same as Torp. Wonder if this will have an impact on the performance of Torps routes given Rygge is closer to Oslo City.
I wonder whether FR will consolidate its operations at RYG, as with FRL/BLQ, or still serve TRF and have a base at RYG, as with NYO/VST amongst others.
Quoting JWMD123 (Reply 2): It amazes me how Oslo can maintain 3 airports with a population of about 1.3m (Urban).
Nothing to do with FR - they don't operate the routes - but apparently 1.626m flew OSL-BGO and 1.615m OSL-TRD in 2007, making these routes the 12th and 13th busiest in Europe by passenger numbers.
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Humberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4899 posts, RR: 5 Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4339 times:
Doesn't Sandefjord (aka Torp) have a local market? So even if FR move some flights to Rygge, couldn't it make sense to retain at least limited service at Torp to serve the local market? It's a rather long car journey for locals from the Sandefjord area to get to Rygge (not sure if there are any ferries they could use)
Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 18817 posts, RR: 54 Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4222 times:
Quoting Humberside (Reply 6): Doesn't Sandefjord (aka Torp) have a local market?
To take an example, KL flew 82,572 on AMS-TRF-AMS in 2008, almost identical to those flown in 2006 and 2007. Obviously KL also serves OSL, along with SK and DY. Perhaps this helps to answer your question?! Hmm!
"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
Vadheim From Norway, joined Jul 2000, 618 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4188 times:
Quoting JWMD123 (Reply 2): It amazes me how Oslo can maintain 3 airports with a population of about 1.3m (Urban).
The 3 'Oslo' airports; Gardermoen (OSL), Torp (TRF) and Rygge (RYG) serves not only Oslo but the whole Oslofjord Region as well as Eastern Norway with a total population of 2.5 million.
OSL is the main airport located 50km north of Oslo with an annual traffic of approx. 20 million pax. TRF is located on the western side of the Oslofjord, 100km south west of Oslo, close to the towns of Sandefjord, Tønsberg and Larvik with an annual traffic of approx. 2 million. RYG is located on the eastern side of the Oslofjord, 60km south east of Oslo, close to the towns of Moss, Fredrikstad and Sarpsborg with an annual traffic of approx. 700.000.
Great news. Having flown FR from both RYG and TRF, RYG is hands down more convenient. Let's just hope they add more LON-RYG flights because up to now times to TRF have been more convenient.You can drive Oslo city to RYG probably in around 45 mins, as opposed to almost double that for TRF. TRF does have a somewhat convenient train connection now, but the train ride is over an hour.
Quoting Migajos (Reply 3): I think that Ryanair plans moving all machines to Rygge in future...
TRF doesn't only serve Oslo people. Plenty of people who live in Sandefjorf and the western part of the fjord.
Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 4): but apparently 1.626m flew OSL-BGO and 1.615m OSL-TRD
Geography and current road infrastructure will do that.
Quoting Vasu (Reply 7): Great news! (On a sideline, I'm flying to Rygge at the weekend... how do you pronounce the name?)
Haha, funny you mention it. I flew STN-RYG on Oct 1st when the route had just started. The crew and the gate agents had absolutely no idea how to pronounce it. There was a glitch of sorts with the display in the airport monitors and when I asked the FR agents which gate the RYG flight departed from, they had no idea what airport I was talking about. I took a couple of tries before they figured it out. By the end of the flight, the crew was asking passengers for the right pronunciation. I was sitting in the front, and when we landed, the flight attendant asked me which country we were in.
Quoting Vasu (Reply 7): Is there any indication that they're reducing/scrapping the base at TRF yet?
WROORD From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 810 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3750 times:
Quoting TIA (Reply 10): Haha, funny you mention it. I flew STN-RYG on Oct 1st when the route had just started. The crew and the gate agents had absolutely no idea how to pronounce it. There was a glitch of sorts with the display in the airport monitors and when I asked the FR agents which gate the RYG flight departed from, they had no idea what airport I was talking about. I took a couple of tries before they figured it out. By the end of the flight, the crew was asking passengers for the right pronunciation. I was sitting in the front, and when we landed, the flight attendant asked me which country we were in.
Why I am not surprised to hear that? Amazing....Was the crew STN based?
I don't know. I think the return flight should have gotten into STN a little after 9pm so I would assume that was the last flight of the day, but I really don't know. I'm sure someone else here has the answer.
Vasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3761 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2581 times:
The flight I'm returning on gets back into STN at 23:10 (I don't think there are any FR departures from STN after that time)... so I'd guess the crew operating at least my flight are based at STN.
Flynorth From Sweden, joined Mar 2008, 126 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2317 times:
Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 4): Nothing to do with FR - they don't operate the routes - but apparently 1.626m flew OSL-BGO and 1.615m OSL-TRD in 2007, making these routes the 12th and 13th busiest in Europe by passenger numbers.
This is due to the topography in Norway, with high mountains mixed with fjords cutting deep into the land. If you want to keep some kind of efficiency in your traveling in Norway, flying is the only means of transportation. Forget car or train.
Also, Norway is the land of the Scandinavian oil sheikhs Too much money floating around in that country. People are grossly overpaid
Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 18817 posts, RR: 54 Reply 16, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2312 times:
Quoting Flynorth (Reply 15): This is due to the topography in Norway, with high mountains mixed with fjords cutting deep into the land. If you want to keep some kind of efficiency in your traveling in Norway, flying is the only means of transportation. Forget car or train.
Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 11): I thought that was obvious, hence not expanding on it.
"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
Flynorth From Sweden, joined Mar 2008, 126 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2296 times:
Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 16): Quoting Flynorth (Reply 15):
This is due to the topography in Norway, with high mountains mixed with fjords cutting deep into the land. If you want to keep some kind of efficiency in your traveling in Norway, flying is the only means of transportation. Forget car or train.
Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 11):
I thought that was obvious, hence not expanding on it.
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