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Last Two NW Pax 747-251B's Head To MZJ  
User currently offlineAirbuske From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 466 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 7734 times:

N623US (ship 6623) is scheduled for a 0700hrs local departure tomorrow (11/24).

N624US (ship 6624) heads to the desert on Saturday (11/28).

MSP spotters : Tomorrow will be your last chance to see a NW bird in the bowling shoe livery.

I went to pay my respects to 6623 today. 747 captains and f/o's had inscribed several farewell messages on the nose gear door. It's plain to see that very many people are sad to see the end of this era.

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User currently offlineRonaldo747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 395 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7654 times:

Sad to see them go .... both Northwest Colors (old/new) will be missed!

User currently offlineAirport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7581 times:

Like I said in another thread...the old NW livery before the bowling shoe and the bowling shoe itself were staples of my childhood. I can understand the livery change to the bowling shoe, but to me, the bowling shoe livery was as timeless and elegant as any livery that graced the skies. I would have been fine with a livery change had they kept that outstanding compass logo, but they decided to completely rape it, and I will never forgive whoever did their branding in 2003.

Sad to see such a landmark of my childhood aviation experience gone.  Sad


User currently offlineImperialEagle From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2630 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7561 times:

They certainly have served NW well and made a LOT of money for them.

Oh well, just like the rest of the "old" NW they are headed into the sunset.
Funny how time changes everything------ eventually.



"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough!"
User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 2021 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 7341 times:

Shoot. I figured it would be leaving early tomorrow. Plus the weather is terrible, so it won't be something I will travel to see. Two years ago, when the A380 came to town, 6623 was sitting in the cargo area. I remember taking pictures of it from the Humphrey ramp, and I wondered how many days were left for it. Guess it was about 730 of them. Good-bye, 6623, I will miss seeing that bowling shoe way up high in the sky. It looked beautiful and timeless.


Question: Will leave 6624 leave that early too? Would be a shame to have the special last departure take place before the sun cuts across the sky.


User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3757 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7202 times:



Quoting Airbuske (Thread starter):
MSP spotters : Tomorrow will be your last chance to see a NW bird in the bowling shoe livery.

I remember the first time I saw NWA bowling shoe livery was on a 742 or 741 back in 1989 believe. I was at school ( Daniel Freeman Elementary school) and I saw this 747 classic in a beautiful livery. I thought in was a overseas base airline, later I saw a NWA 747 classic in the same livery and saw that it was NWA.

I have many memories of seeing NWA 742 take off from 24 at LAX for NRT when I was in high school ( Westchester High School). It is hard not remember the loud scream of those PW JT-9 as those NWA 742 lift off the runway, they also took up most of of runway 24. It sad to see these babies go.  Sad


User currently offlineMSPSpotter From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7051 times:



Quoting Airbuske (Thread starter):
N623US (ship 6623) is scheduled for a 0700hrs local departure tomorrow (11/24).

You mean 11/25, right? Thanks for the info. I'll probably be there at 7am to see if I can catch her taking off one last time. Hopefully they will use 30L so we'll have a good view from the cell phone lot.

I was lucky to see her tonight when I was making a run to the post office. I suspected that she might be parked by the cargo building on 34th Ave. and sure enough.... she was!

Parked by the cargo building at roughly 10:45pm Tuesday, 11/24.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o169/srs1000/N623US/1.jpg

On my way back from the post office I drove past her again and was suprised to hear her engines running.

Engines running and just starting to taxi at roughly 11:00pm, 11/24.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o169/srs1000/N623US/2.jpg

Taxiing to one of the G gates...
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o169/srs1000/N623US/3.jpg

Sorry for the poor picture quality... it's the best I could do with the camera I had with me.


User currently offlineAmccann From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7004 times:

How many 747-200 freighters does Northwest have left? When will the freighters be heading off to the desert?


What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. - Ronald Reagan
User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4898 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6990 times:

...and I'm flying through Detroit!  banghead 


Flying an aeroplane with only a single propeller to keep you in the air. Can you imagine that? -Capt. Picard
User currently offlineNWAESC From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3408 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6849 times:



Quoting Amccann (Reply 7):
How many 747-200 freighters does Northwest have left? When will the freighters be heading off to the desert?

5 left...

6731,6732,6739,6743,6744.

They'll join their 7 siblings in the desert at the end of this year.  Sad



"Nothing ever happens here, " I said. "I just wait."
User currently offlineAirbuske From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 466 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 6777 times:



Quoting ImperialEagle (Reply 3):
They certainly have served NW well and made a LOT of money for them.

Stats as of 11.24.09 :

6623: 103,114 flight hours / 18,171 pressurization cycles.
6624: 106,414 flight hours / 19,107 pressurization cycles.

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 4):
Will leave 6624 leave that early too? Would be a shame to have the special last departure take place before the sun cuts across the sky.

Nothing shows up on the routing schedule as yet but I wouldn't get my hopes up. Forecast doesn't predict much of a sunset  Sad

Quoting MSPSpotter (Reply 6):
You mean 11/25, right?

Silly me! Sorry for the typo. Did you make it out this morning?

Quoting MSPSpotter (Reply 6):
Sorry for the poor picture quality... it's the best I could do with the camera I had with me.

Thanks for the pictures. She parked at G6.

Incase anyone is interested, you can track the flight here : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NWA9860


User currently offlineMSPSpotter From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 6715 times:



Quoting Airbuske (Reply 10):
Did you make it out this morning?

Yep, I was there!!!

I was able to get a few pictures of her taking off but they are very poor quality. I will try to post them later today. I don't think the pilot tipped the wings from side to side (as I've noticed other planes do when leaving MSP for good) but I could be wrong.... if he did, it wasn't much.

Thanks for posting the departure info. I would have missed seeing her leave this morning if you didn't create this thread. Thank you for posting the Flightaware link too.

Also, be sure to keep us updated on N624US if you can.


User currently offlineViscount630 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4666 times:
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What were their last revenue flights??


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User currently offlineFX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4281 times:



Quoting MSPSpotter (Reply 11):
Also, be sure to keep us updated on N624US if you can.

It looks as though the last on, 624NW will be leaving VCV-COS on another military charter. I didn't know that they were getting rid of them right now but I am glad that I was able to give 4NW one of it's final clearances on a departure yesterday, 11/24, VCV-COS. I will try to get pics if I can but it does look like it's gonna be too dark then.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NWA9999

FX1816


User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3088 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4263 times:



Quoting Viscount630 (Reply 12):
What were their last revenue flights??

This was the last revenue flight for N623US, a military charter.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...5/history/20091120/1810Z/KCWF/KBTV



The good old days: Delta L-1011s at MSY
User currently offlineMSPSpotter From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4144 times:

OK, I mentioned earlier that I would post of a few pictures from her final take off this morning. Like I said before, they are very poor quality, even worse than normal since I had the camera on the wrong setting and didn't know it. Well, here they are...

N623US beginning her take odd roll on 30L at MSP. (can just be seen over the top of the fence)
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o169/srs1000/N623US/t1.jpg

Still rolling as she passed in front of me...
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o169/srs1000/N623US/t2.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o169/srs1000/N623US/t3.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o169/srs1000/N623US/t4.jpg

She disappeared into the fog before I could snap the next picture.

Farewell N623US


User currently offlineCandid76 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 743 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4034 times:

While it's always sad to see the end of an era, don't forget that these aircraft are really old and are not being retired prematurely. They have served their time, and the only sad thing is that they aren't going to preserve one of them (theoretically they could be sold on, but at their age that's most unlikely). It's much more sad to see newer aircraft scrapped prematurely as seems to happen often in the US nowadays.

624 is the only NW pax -200 I have never seen, I guess it will be time to charter a Cessna again and go back to Pinal!


User currently offlineWoof From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3975 times:

Quoting Ronaldo747 (Reply 1):
I would have been fine with a livery change had they kept that outstanding compass logo, but they decided to completely rape it, and I will never forgive whoever did their branding in 2003.

Forgive me if this has been discussed before, but:

The old compass logo was very good. It showed an N, a W and a compass pointing North West. The new 'raped' compass seems to be pointing North West on the left of the plane but North East on the right.

Why is that?

[Edited 2009-11-26 05:59:47]

User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3088 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3740 times:



Quoting FX1816 (Reply 13):
It looks as though the last on, 624NW will be leaving VCV-COS on another military charter. I didn't know that they were getting rid of them right now but I am glad that I was able to give 4NW one of it's final clearances on a departure yesterday, 11/24, VCV-COS. I will try to get pics if I can but it does look like it's gonna be too dark then.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...A9999

It did another trip from VCV to COS Wednesday and don't see it leaving COS on Flightaware so guess it is still there.

They might deadhead the crew down to COS for the ferry flight to MZJ so the Wednesday flight could have been the last revenue flight.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...9/history/20091126/0412Z/KVCV/KCOS



The good old days: Delta L-1011s at MSY
User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10817 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3707 times:

End of era indeed. These were the last two 742 pax aircraft in service for a top airline worldwide. 30,5 years in the same airline´s hand is quite impressive.

Quoting Airbuske (Reply 10):
Stats as of 11.24.09 :

6623: 103,114 flight hours / 18,171 pressurization cycles.
6624: 106,414 flight hours / 19,107 pressurization cycles.

Above average for a pax 747, but not too much for longhaul aircraft thirty years old. LH has a few 744s ten years younger who are very close to that figure and will pass it next year.


User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3088 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3681 times:

Sad day, both are now parked at MZJ.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...0/history/20091127/1511Z/KCOS/KMZJ

N624US



The good old days: Delta L-1011s at MSY
User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5066 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3625 times:

What is the difference between a "pressurization cycle" and a landing cycle? I always thought those numbers meant the # of landings.

Also, how many other NWA planes are left in the bowling-shoe colors?

Bruce



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User currently offlinePqdtw From Netherlands, joined Aug 2008, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3605 times:

6623 was the first 747-200 I ever worked at Northwest! So sad to see her flying into the sunset.

6623 was in the group of the Tango configuration airplanes (as they were called then). That meant an expanded business class (called Executive back then) behind door 2. In the day, those ships were the ones number 6622-6635.

There was also a weird anomaly with those ships, in that in the event of ditching, we had to carry out an extra step if you were seated at door 3. Because of the design of the slide, it would interfere with the slide/raft at door 4 in a ditching, so that door had to be deactivated. There was a special 'black ditching handle' forward of the door that we had to pull, so that a passenger would not open the door in a panic and render the door 4 slide inoperative. We had a little mnemonic to remember which 742's had this handle back then, and all the old Northwest flight attendants know this little blurb: "22 through 35, more to do to stay alive..."

Just a little added information about this old bird (the plane, not me).


User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3088 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3557 times:



Quoting Bruce (Reply 21):
Also, how many other NWA planes are left in the bowling-shoe colors?

None, unless there is something in the desert that they might bring back?

N623US was the only active plane in bowling shoe.



The good old days: Delta L-1011s at MSY
User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 2021 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3483 times:

6624 didn't come back home one last time.  Sad I didn't get the chance to see it leave.

Quoting NA (Reply 19):
End of era indeed. These were the last two 742 pax aircraft in service for a top airline worldwide. 30,5 years in the same airline´s hand is quite impressive.

It certainly is. NW flew the 742 for about 39 years, and so many of their 747s flew for 3+ decades. Even though these aircraft were technically "old", they seemed so young in our hearts. They will never be replaced.

Quoting NA (Reply 19):
Above average for a pax 747, but not too much for longhaul aircraft thirty years old. LH has a few 744s ten years younger who are very close to that figure and will pass it next year.

Indeed. There's many 744s about to hit that range.


25 KDTWFlyer : Haha so is that the same as tail numbers then like N622NW through N635NW? End of era indeed. I always wanted to fly on a classic B742 or B741 and nev
26 Pqdtw : I'm not sure. Sometimes the tail number had the same number as the ship, but not always. In any case, I don't think those airplanes had a NW on the t
27 NA : Certainly not. Because all those NW pax 742s had registrations ending with US. So it must read N622US to N635US (629 and 630 inbetween being freighte
28 N7371f : Sometime in the late '90's or very early 2000, NW started registering their new and used aircraft acquisitions with 'NW' instead of 'US'. The last two
29 Bruce : NWA has some DC-9 that are close to that! Bruce
30 ZANL188 : NWA never bought DC-9s new from the factory. North Central, Southern, and other acquired carriers did - but never NWA itself.
31 ChrisNH : I was proud to fly N624US in December 1995, operating Northwest Flight 5 from O'Hare to Narita. For me, Flight 5 started earlier in the day at Boston,
32 DocLightning : I believe a pressurization cycle requires that you apply a pressure difference between the cabin and the exterior. So if you take off, have a tech pr
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