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Your Thoughts On VS Suing AC, DL And Jet Airways......  
User currently offlineAircanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1507 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 5 months 1 hour ago) and read 4619 times:

Hello all

I don't know if you are all aware about VS suing Air Canada, Delta and Jetairways for using their patent Herribone seats from Contour. All though this is crazy but I think it would be nice for AC to change the seats again for a better product. I would love to see AC introduce suites to their a/c, something similar to Singapore, Ethiad and Emirates. I know it will cost AC alot of money to remove and replace with new seats again for entire fleet of widebodies.

Here's the link to flyertalk. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...-remove-international-j-seats.html

AC might have to REMOVE international J seats.

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Yikes this might be a funny one. Virgin won on appeal its claim that AC seats infringe on its patent. So AC might have to remove its seats on the 777 business class. LOL if the seat manf. has to pay it might be good news, we could have some new seats.

Virgin Atlantic, the pioneer of several improvements in seat design over the past 25 years, yesterday won the latest round in its fight to protect the exclusivity of its Upper Class seat.Virgin is taking legal action against Delta, Air Canada and Jet Airways, which all bought the Herringbone seats from Contour.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle6886392.ece

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User currently offlineSparklehorse12 From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 884 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months ago) and read 4552 times:

Virgin - ra ra ra ra

They believe they pioneer eveything. Next VS will taking legal action against a subsiduary to create publicity about themselves.

Interesting to see how this one plays out given DL and VA are cooperating across the pacific. I know they seperate entities but still one must ask the question.



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User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4361 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months ago) and read 4419 times:

Shouldn't they sue Contour? Contour sold their products...

User currently offlineDLPMMM From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3581 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4391 times:

As far as Delta is concerned, we won't hear anything significant on this for several years. Note that Virgin lost the case originally, and now has won on appeal. That is in a UK court. I don't know if more appeals are allowed under the UK system, bbut in the USA is will take several years for Virgin's case to be heard. The legal rules are also different.

I expect the whole think will settle out when Contour pays off Virgin and aquires the right to sell the design in the settlement. The Delta, Air Canada, and Jet Airways suits are just pressure tactics against Contour.


User currently offlineJayeshrulz From India, joined Apr 2007, 1027 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4382 times:

yes 9W.

They should cue contour because they violet the copyright law and sold it the design to other airlines.
How will the airline whether the design they are buying is actually copyrighted or no?
This is ridiculous actually...man i never thought SRB will do such a job...



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User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4143 times:



Quoting Jayeshrulz (Reply 4):
This is ridiculous actually

Nothing ridiculous about it......no different at all in a certain US airline not allowing a similar type of name being used on a different continent and which the entire world knew had no connection at all to that said airline. So, what's the difference in one being ridiculous, and one not?


User currently offlineShankly From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 1529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4045 times:

Was always the elephant in the room as far as I am concerned as the herringbone is a ridiculous arrangement.

I remain unclear however as to whether it is the seat itself, i.e. some innovation is required in the actual seat design to accommodate matters such as crash protection, or just the herringbone arrangement? If the former and the patent, intellectual rights sat with VS, then I guess fair enough. If however the later...plain daft.

I wonder if Virgin will also will now take legal action against other airlines who are currently copying VS's "innovative" corny ad campaign, declining in flight standards and penny pinching?



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21419 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3901 times:

VS did not invent the herringbone. F pods have been in a narrower herringbone for decades. So it must involve the tight packing+integration of systems into the next wall or something. If not, I think AA and QF and others should sue VS.

Anyway, I found DL s 777 product uncomfortable anyway. Blech.



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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8093 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3753 times:
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Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 3):
I expect the whole think will settle out when Contour pays off Virgin and aquires the right to sell the design in the settlement. The Delta, Air Canada, and Jet Airways suits are just pressure tactics against Contour.

Cathay uses a simialr seat in their Business Class, why are they not being sued ? The only airline who has a license from Virgin is Air New Zealand to use the seat design.


User currently offlineMSNDC9 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3744 times:



Quoting Burkhard (Reply 2):
Shouldn't they sue Contour? Contour sold their products...

 bigthumbsup 

VS must be bored.


User currently offlineJayeshrulz From India, joined Apr 2007, 1027 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3593 times:



Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 8):
Cathay uses a simialr seat in their Business Class, why are they not being sued ? The only airline who has a license from Virgin is Air New Zealand to use the seat design.

They are Big grin



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User currently offlineMutu From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 530 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2600 times:

The VS seat does not electically recline to a bed...you have to stand up and flip the mattress out to create a bed.

Thought CX was all motorised . What about DL AZ 9W and AC?


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