Aircanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1513 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5469 times:
I don't know if you are all aware about VS suing Air Canada, Delta and Jetairways for using their patent Herribone seats from Contour. All though this is crazy but I think it would be nice for AC to change the seats again for a better product. I would love to see AC introduce suites to their a/c, something similar to Singapore, Ethiad and Emirates. I know it will cost AC alot of money to remove and replace with new seats again for entire fleet of widebodies.
Yikes this might be a funny one. Virgin won on appeal its claim that AC seats infringe on its patent. So AC might have to remove its seats on the 777 business class. LOL if the seat manf. has to pay it might be good news, we could have some new seats.
Virgin Atlantic, the pioneer of several improvements in seat design over the past 25 years, yesterday won the latest round in its fight to protect the exclusivity of its Upper Class seat.Virgin is taking legal action against Delta, Air Canada and Jet Airways, which all bought the Herringbone seats from Contour.
DLPMMM From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3629 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5241 times:
As far as Delta is concerned, we won't hear anything significant on this for several years. Note that Virgin lost the case originally, and now has won on appeal. That is in a UK court. I don't know if more appeals are allowed under the UK system, bbut in the USA is will take several years for Virgin's case to be heard. The legal rules are also different.
I expect the whole think will settle out when Contour pays off Virgin and aquires the right to sell the design in the settlement. The Delta, Air Canada, and Jet Airways suits are just pressure tactics against Contour.
Jayeshrulz From India, joined Apr 2007, 1033 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5232 times:
They should cue contour because they violet the copyright law and sold it the design to other airlines.
How will the airline whether the design they are buying is actually copyrighted or no?
This is ridiculous actually...man i never thought SRB will do such a job...
Nothing ridiculous about it......no different at all in a certain US airline not allowing a similar type of name being used on a different continent and which the entire world knew had no connection at all to that said airline. So, what's the difference in one being ridiculous, and one not?
Shankly From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 1560 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4895 times:
Was always the elephant in the room as far as I am concerned as the herringbone is a ridiculous arrangement.
I remain unclear however as to whether it is the seat itself, i.e. some innovation is required in the actual seat design to accommodate matters such as crash protection, or just the herringbone arrangement? If the former and the patent, intellectual rights sat with VS, then I guess fair enough. If however the later...plain daft.
I wonder if Virgin will also will now take legal action against other airlines who are currently copying VS's "innovative" corny ad campaign, declining in flight standards and penny pinching?
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21936 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4751 times:
VS did not invent the herringbone. F pods have been in a narrower herringbone for decades. So it must involve the tight packing+integration of systems into the next wall or something. If not, I think AA and QF and others should sue VS.
Anyway, I found DL s 777 product uncomfortable anyway. Blech.
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
Jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 9108 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 4603 times:
Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 3): I expect the whole think will settle out when Contour pays off Virgin and aquires the right to sell the design in the settlement. The Delta, Air Canada, and Jet Airways suits are just pressure tactics against Contour.
Cathay uses a simialr seat in their Business Class, why are they not being sued ? The only airline who has a license from Virgin is Air New Zealand to use the seat design.