Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Bmi To Lose 600 Jobs And 9 Aircraft  
User currently offlineAndyEastMids From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 1017 posts, RR: 2
Posted (4 years 10 months 21 hours ago) and read 17180 times:

bmi suspends services
Unfortunately bmi will be suspending the following services:

- Our London Heathrow-Amsterdam service will be suspended on 27 March 2010

- We will be suspending our London Heathrow-Tel Aviv service, with the last flight departing London on 9 January 2010, and the last flight departing Tel Aviv on 10 January 2010

- Our London Heathrow-Kiev service will be suspended on 10 January 2010

- As well as London Heathrow-Aleppo, with the last departure from London being 9 January 2010 and the last departure from Aleppo being 10 January 2010. Note our London Heathrow-Damascus service will continue to operate as usual.

We will also be transferring our London Heathrow-Brussels service over to Brussels Airlines from 10 January 2010.

If you hold a direct booking on one of our suspended services you will be contacted by bmi after 2 December to discuss your alternative flight options or to receive a full refund. We will be contacting customers in travel date order. Customers booked through a travel agent should contact their travel agent after 2 December to discuss their options.

We sincerely apologise for the inconvenience caused.

======

Originally Posted by bmi
25 November 2009

bmi restructures mainline and bmi regional operations

- focus on core network serving key destinations
- frequencies and capacities that match market expectations

bmi has today announced the restructuring of its mainline and regional operations. The move takes place against a background where the airline industry is facing the challenges of a downturn in demand and the worst recession in the UK since records began. In addition to cost saving initiatives the programme also includes a wide range of revenue enhancement initiatives.

The restructuring plan will see bmi focus on the following key areas:
• Suspending loss making routes
• Adjusting capacity to optimise efficiency and profitability
• Strengthening organisational productivity and efficiency in all areas
• Making use of the synergies of Lufthansa and other partner airlines in all areas
• Maximising revenue generating opportunities with codeshare and Star Alliance partners

The airline’s goal is to focus on maintaining within bmi mainline and bmi regional a core network of services in the UK and Ireland, Europe, the CIS, The Middle East and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Through a combination of improved aircraft productivity and efficiency, and from early 2010 the suspension of non-core and unprofitable services, bmi will reduce the number of aircraft in its mainline operation by nine from the current 39. This reduction will include two of five Embraer aircraft operating on mainline routes that will be returned to bmi regional.

Leases will not be extended on aircraft when they expire in the first half of 2010, including two of the three long haul A330 aircraft. bmi will therefore continue to serve mid haul markets with two long-range aircraft and its fleet of A321s.

bmi regional, which through its niche market position and a long term charter agreement with Airbus, is maintaining a viable operation but is feeling the impact of a prolonged downturn in business-type travel. The return of two Embraer aircraft from the mainline operation at Heathrow and one additional spare aircraft will result in these three units being surplus to requirements. The company is in discussion with potential customers with a view to mitigating this situation.

A reduction in the number of aircraft deployed in bmi mainline and bmi regional operations will result in job reductions coming from all areas of the business, operational and corporate functions. The number of full-time equivalent jobs at risk of redundancy is expected to be approximately 600. However further job cuts cannot be ruled out as corporate overheads will also be cut to reflect the reduced flying programme. Management has today commenced consultations with unions and staff representatives with a view to minimising the number of compulsory job losses wherever possible.

The Lufthansa Group took over bmi in July 2009 and shortly after undertook a due diligence exercise which highlighted the need for a restructuring of the business. Lufthansa has given bmi its full support for the actions it is undertaking in this restructuring programme.

Once stabilised, the business can then be grown again in the years ahead when the economic environment improves and market demand justifies it.

======
Sad days for a once well run and well respected airline! Especially feel for the staff in these difficult times

Andy

79 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4269 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 21 hours ago) and read 17080 times:

 Wow! That's quite some shocking data! It's hard to believe that a route such as LHR-AMS will be gone soon. With numerous flights a day, many connecting to Star Alliance flights at LHR... I always thought that this was one of their key markets in Europe.
Sorry for all the staff which loose their job in these already hard times...



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineAndyEastMids From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 1017 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 21 hours ago) and read 16986 times:

Indeed, so sad for everyone involved.... LHR-AMS was where the international network really started - first British Midland "Diamond Service" international to break out of LHR after much arguing (at the time no airline that didn't already operate from LHR internationally could not start new international services from the airport, but British Midland had previously operated a short lived service from LHR to Strasburg with a Viscount so was able to circumvent that restriction).

Bad management of the airline, the route, the network, the product and the fare structure have all played a part in contributing to this (not helped by the current economy, of course) - it all started to go wrong when the airline was taken over by bean counters who put profit before service (even when the airline was privately owned), and drove the service-oriented customers away

Andy


User currently offlineSlz396 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 20 hours ago) and read 16910 times:

LHR-AMS axed:
That must free up a significant number of slots. Are these the slots LX will use to operate GVA_LHR with?

LHR-BRU transferred to SN:
Is BD going to operate (some) of the flights as a wet lease for SN (similar to what they will be doing for LX on LHR-GVA) or is SN taking over all 6 daily flights?

What will BD do with the other slots that it frees? Will other LH group airlines increase their flights to LHR, notably OS or LH?

And what about the 2 A330s that are to go?
Any idea where they might go to?
SN has been said to be looking for additional A330s to expand on Africa...

interesting development!


User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1922 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 20 hours ago) and read 16872 times:

Well, I'm shocked about BMI leaving Schiphol. I've been using them quite often this year and the plane was often empty. However, if you needed to go to Heathrow, BMI was often the cheapest compared to BA and KLM.

Sad, I really liked BMI and I can remember the old blue DC-9's parked at the gates at Schiphol in front of the visitors terrace.

Cheers!  wave 



Only Those Who Sleep Don't Make Mistakes
User currently offlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2501 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 20 hours ago) and read 16869 times:

I was right, BD is going to be used for its slots and will make it possible to the like of LX, SN, LH Italia and others to expand using its solts. That's the strategy for LH for BD.

That's bad but I am afraid BD is dead. LH is using its assets. I gues the Saudi Arabia routes will be the netx to go as they do not stand a chance with BA and SV using 777s on the route. Well everyone was happy about BD getting under LH. I don't think anyone enjoys what's happening now.



Next flights : BRU-ZRH-CAI (LX)/ BRU-FCO-TLV (AZ)
User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 20 hours ago) and read 16845 times:

Looks like BD is shrinking untill they are gone... this is really bad. Especially the LHR-AMS route!! I guess the lone a332 is for services to Saudi Arabia. So sad to see these birds go, I really like BD's livery. Also very sad to see BD leave AMS. I guess only BMIBaby will be left at AMS.


L1011,733,734,73G,738,743,744,752,763,772,77W,DC855,DC863,DC930,DC950,MD11,MD88,306,319,320,321,343,346,ARJ85,CR7,E195
User currently offlineParapente From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1583 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 20 hours ago) and read 16819 times:

Gulf yesterday,BMI today.Longhaul will be the preserve of the few operating out of their designated hubs.

User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19230 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 20 hours ago) and read 16657 times:



Quoting LifelinerOne (Reply 4):
I've been using them quite often this year and the plane was often empty. However, if you needed to go to Heathrow, BMI was often the cheapest

So "empty" aircraft while the "cheapest" option on AMS-LHR. No wonder they're pulling it.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineShamrock104 From Ireland, joined Sep 2000, 524 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 20 hours ago) and read 16617 times:

Very sad to see LHR-KBP go, although I can't say i'm suprised. Flew it 2 weeks ago and was almost empty in business both ways. Was great to have direct competion for BA on that route.

User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1686 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 20 hours ago) and read 16480 times:

Sorry to see so many cuts in bmi's operations. It's not a huge airline to begin with; the impact will surely be felt. And of course, would suck to be one of those 600 made redundant.
Surprised to see that LHR-TLV will be completely axed. I know it's quite competitive at the moment, but perhaps all BD needed to do was scale back? Twice-daily A332 was rather ambitious anyway.

On a happier note, BD's CAI route is gaining ground and seems to be pretty popular so far. When I did that flight, loads were near full. Of course, it's strategic to maintain that route given the CAI/MS/*A hub dynamic.


User currently offlineAndyEastMids From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 1017 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 19 hours ago) and read 16313 times:



Quoting Directorguy (Reply 10):
On a happier note, BD's CAI route is gaining ground and seems to be pretty popular so far. When I did that flight, loads were near full.

yes, but with BD going down to only one A330 (which will, I suspect, be allocated to Saudi Arabia), then it seems likely CAI will go back to A321 ops

Andy


User currently offlineThegreatRDU From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2310 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 19 hours ago) and read 16266 times:

I remember flying the British Midland 733s back in the day, LHR-BRU and LHR-CGN ...to me that was a pretty sharp livery....
So know honestly whats working for them? What are their strengths?



[Edited 2009-11-25 06:27:01 by thegreatRDU]


Our Returning Champion
User currently offlineGCT64 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 1398 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 18 hours ago) and read 15830 times:

Not surprised about the TLV news, I booked only last week for travel this weekend and there was lots of availability on all flights at very competitive prices - at the time I commented to my colleagues that it was the cheapest we had ever paid for a seat LHR-TLV-LHR over the 10 years or so we have been using that route for business travel. Great for the consumer, not so good for the airline(s).

Slightly confused by:

Quoting AndyEastMids (Thread starter):
Leases will not be extended on aircraft when they expire in the first half of 2010, including two of the three long haul A330 aircraft. bmi will therefore continue to serve mid haul markets with two long-range aircraft and its fleet of A321s.

3-2 = 2 ? are they counting a leased 757 as well?



Flown in: A30B,A306,A310,A319,A320,A321,A332,A333,A343,A346,A388,BA11,BU31,B190, B461,B462,(..51 types..),VC10,WESX
User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2013 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 18 hours ago) and read 15729 times:



Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 1):
That's quite some shocking data! It's hard to believe that a route such as LHR-AMS will be gone soon. With numerous flights a day, many connecting to Star Alliance flights at LHR... I always thought that this was one of their key markets in Europe.

I would have thought most Star passengers at AMS would prefer to connect elsewhere to LHR (which is hardly the airport of chocie for connecting traffic), as there can't be many destinations that are served only from LHR via *A, and not FRA for example?



it's the bus to stansted (now renamed national express a4 to ruin my username)
User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4269 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 17 hours ago) and read 15175 times:



Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 14):
I would have thought most Star passengers at AMS would prefer to connect elsewhere to LHR (which is hardly the airport of chocie for connecting traffic),

SA, NZ and AC were important connections ex AMS and feeded by BD aircraft ex AMS.

Quoting LifelinerOne (Reply 4):
I've been using them quite often this year and the plane was often empty.

I've been numerous times on packed A321's and 320's. Flew them in Y and C, and they were always good to me. A shame to see them leaving, and I wonder what effect this one will have on the ticket pricing on the London market ex AMS.



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineMozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2182 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months 17 hours ago) and read 14834 times:

Really sorry to hear this happening. I feel really sorry for those employees out there working with passengers and giving their best.

But this was foreseeable. The company was very very badly managed, so this had to happen. Only that LH now is the one making the cuts that are long overdue.

BTW, what I don't understand yet is bmiBaby's future focus on East Midlands. I know that Easyjet moved out - but that must be for a reason. So why does Baby find that market attractive whereas Easy does not?


User currently offlineSpud757 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 339 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 17 hours ago) and read 14811 times:

So BD moved its long-haul A330 ops to LHR away from MAN because yields would be better.... seems they made a big mistake.
Could have kept flying ex-MAN across the pond with these birds with feeder traffic from bmi regional. Shame. There was a chance for BD/*A to build a mini-hub at MAN but the golden runways of LHR were calling


User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2013 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 13955 times:



Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 15):
Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 14):
I would have thought most Star passengers at AMS would prefer to connect elsewhere to LHR (which is hardly the airport of chocie for connecting traffic),

SA, NZ and AC were important connections ex AMS and feeded by BD aircraft ex AMS.

Important, but clearly not lucrative enough. Besides SA and AC both fly to FRA as well, so there's a *A option there.

*A can't be everywhere, and cover every possible connection option, if there isn't enough point to point traffic to fill the plane...(noting as an example that U2 fly to AMS 10 times a day in total from it's 3 London bases)

Quoting GCT64 (Reply 13):
3-2 = 2 ? are they counting a leased 757 as well?

That puzzled me as well - is it sensible to have 1 A330 and 1 757 as a 'long haul fleet'?



it's the bus to stansted (now renamed national express a4 to ruin my username)
User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4920 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (4 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 13811 times:



Quoting Mozart (Reply 16):
BTW, what I don't understand yet is bmiBaby's future focus on East Midlands. I know that Easyjet moved out - but that must be for a reason. So why does Baby find that market attractive whereas Easy does not?

Easyjet is trying to avoid small bases and EMA is small for Easyjet (3 aircraft). bmi baby however now have the chance to gain scale at EMA, which should reduce fixed costs.

Also bmi baby are expanding to some destinations not served by easyjet, and on some routes are not replacing all of the current Easyjet capacity



Visit the Air Humberside Website and Forum
User currently offlineCARST From Germany, joined Jul 2006, 820 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (4 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 13734 times:

Wasn't the LX fleet shrunken as well when LH took over? And now LX is one of the companies in the LH group with the best profit margin...

User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8375 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (4 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 13701 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!



Quoting Directorguy (Reply 10):
Sorry to see so many cuts in bmi's operations. It's not a huge airline to begin with; the impact will surely be felt. And of course, would suck to be one of those 600 made redundant.
Surprised to see that LHR-TLV will be completely axed. I know it's quite competitive at the moment, but perhaps all BD needed to do was scale back? Twice-daily A332 was rather ambitious anyway.

Two of three A330's are being returned to their lessors when the leases expire in early 2010.


User currently offlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 2933 posts, RR: 25
Reply 22, posted (4 years 10 months 14 hours ago) and read 13125 times:

I hate to do a Simon Cowell and say I warned you so, but, I warned you so, 8 months ago:

Quoting BlueShamu330s, on FEBRUARY 19th 2009:

On prima facae evidence, Lufthansa are basically asset stripping bmi.

Just on this week's events, hugely valuable slots are being sacrificed by previously successful bmi routes out of LHR for the benefit of Lufthansitalia; that's of no benefit to bmi's pilots, crew, staff or the company's bottom line.

Lufthansa have no care or regard for bmi as a business or a name; why should they? They are, afterall, a revenue generating company with their own interest at heart.

Lufthansa was widely proclaimed as the saviour of bmi; I for one beg to differ, yet fervently hope events prove me very wrong.

I'll wager now that by December 31st 2009, bmi will be well on the way to becomming nothing more than a reduced niche carrier to the near east with many LHR slots transferred to other Lufthansa departments.


BD Major Regional Reductions (by JER757 Feb 18 2009 in Civil Aviation)

Rgds



So I drive a 4x4. So what?! Tax the a$$ off me for it...oh, you already have... :-(
User currently offlineFlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2090 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (4 years 10 months 14 hours ago) and read 12961 times:

Seems the strategy is to serve Star Alliance hubs in Europe via own metal from LHR. I think that over the next 12-18 months Swiss and LH Italia will be operating all the LHR-GVA and LHR-MXP flights on their own metal.

BD is now effectively two parts. British Isles traffic (DUB/BHD/GLA/EDI/ABZ/MAN) and the former BMed routes, including those markets BD added too (Moscow, Cairo, Saudi).

The British Isles traffic, if properly managed under LH, can hopefully yield a good - and profitable - mix of O&D and transfer traffic.

The mid-haul market is different. How much of that traffic is O&D to LHR, and how much transfer traffic? BA declined to acquire BMed as it seemed to feel the routes weren't required. Will LH stay the distance, or will it continue to review the options and look at divesting those slots to Star Alliance partners?

The fact some aircraft are being returned at the end of leases makes me think more could be when further leases expire, and that further route cuts could follow.

If BD does get cut back to being a UK & Ireland carrier from LHR I hope LH brings back the full British Midland name rather than the increasingly meaningless bmi!



Let's Go British Caledonian!
User currently offlineAirNz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (4 years 10 months 14 hours ago) and read 12883 times:



Quoting FlyCaledonian (Reply 23):
If BD does get cut back to being a UK & Ireland carrier from LHR I hope LH brings back the full British Midland name rather than the increasingly meaningless bmi!

 checkmark  and, whilst probably unlikely, the renowned Diamond Class service again.


25 Addd : Interesting - one would think KBP, unlike TLV or AMS, is an underserved market... I suppose Ukrainian economy being in the gutter does not help.
26 AIR MALTA : I totally agree with you. BD could have served MXP, GVA or BRU using their personnel, slots and aircraft and sharing codes with LH, LX and SN . Inste
27 ZKEOJ : It is sad indeed to see jobs go. But I think your conclusion might be premature. Yes, nobody is happy about job losses and a shrinking airline (excep
28 Sam1987 : I predict LH will continue to take BD's slots season by season, then will put the remainder of BD up for sale. BA could return to DUB/BHD from LHR, an
29 Post contains links Theginge : The Times speculates that Lufhansa may raise capital to keep BMI going by selling off some slots to other carriers. Perhaps an option as they are redu
30 Post contains links BestWestern : I was a few years earlier... To be fair - BMI realised that they had a problem in 2004, and did nothing about it. In 2004 I asked... "How long will L
31 LJ : Given the fact that they reduced to 4 daily AMS-LHR rotations I wonder if this was to be expected. BA and KL have far more rotations and this is impo
32 Humberside : One thing about AMS going - how important is AMS for the energy sector? This is a key focus for bmi I suspect Wizz Air starting LTN-Kiev around the sa
33 BmiBaby737 : It looks like it's mainly bmi, with one of the flights being operated by Brussels Airlines.
34 Richardw : They cancelled MAD,BCN and NCE a long time ago, so this is no surprise.
35 BA174 : I bet the A330 fleet are among the ones going as two of them are on the TLV route. I cant see BD being around for much longer. A BA takeover looks lik
36 BmiBaby737 : This was announced in the original press release posted by Andy... Lufthansa sell bmi to British Airways? Can't see it myself!
37 AirbusA6 : BA might want some slots, but they're happy to not get the airline as well! The Bmed deal where BA let the airline be taken over, but hoovered up som
38 Jfk777 : A sad end to another great independent British Airline, why is it the secondary English airline always get the shaft. Laker, British Caledonian(merged
39 Commavia : bmi's problems these days have next to nothing to do with BA. It has to do with the chronic mismanagement of the airline, and the schizophrenic strat
40 Tobias2702 : Another question that puzzles me? How far can bmi shrink until they are of no more use for Star Alliance?
41 Mozart : There's room to shrink down to the size of, let's say, Adria or Croatia. Size is not the only thing that matters. Focus of the network as well as coh
42 Slinky09 : I'd be interested in some specific evidence to back this up? Unlike in the US, the airline industry in the UK is free market, publicly or privately o
43 AirNz : Aren't you being a little contradictory there with 'facts', and I you really mean British which is an entirely different thing to English?? British C
44 Joost : It's very interesting that StarAlliance carriers seem to work less and less with BMI. * Trying to book EWR-ABZ on continental.com, CO shows interline
45 Evomutant : It was HQ'd and operationally based at Gatwick.
46 Sam1987 : Their fleet of Airbuses would be useful to BA. They could repaint the A319s and send them down to LGW to replace the 737s.
47 Babybus : This is all very sad. For a while it looked like a dynamic and driven airline then it got lost and now seems set to implode. If, out of all of this, i
48 Candid76 : Of course they can, from Manchester, fed by bmi regional, Lufthansa and other Star Alliance connections at both ends of the route with proactive mark
49 BA174 : I would say they are the front runner to takeover. I think they are the best option. I wouldn't want to be around LHR while the intergration was goin
50 BmiBaby737 : Lufthansa withdraw bmi from sale because no one was interested. British Airways hardly has the funds to take on another airline that would burn it's
51 1stfl94 : I think it would be more likely that BA will wait for BD to collapse then have a scrap with VS over the slots, that's all either airline wants out of
52 LJ : AMS is not important for the energy sector. The energy companies (Shell and other oil companies) are located around The Hague (Shell) and Rotterdam.
53 BA174 : I think all3 A330s will go as I cant see them keeping one.
54 Jfk777 : British Caledonian had a Scottish theme to it but its main base was Gatwick, as you would know. It flew its Dc-10's and 747 to Tokyo, Hong Kong, Lago
55 FlyCaledonian : If BCal had got the LHR access it wanted so much, maybe BR and BD would have merged in the 1990s. Now that would have been a second force airline! As
56 Ncelhr : Sad news. Years of weather-vane-like management with too many U-turns, dropped routes, launches etc. I flew BD a lot in the nineties. They used to off
57 VV701 : The only scheduled routes that BCal operated to and from any Scottish airports after its formation were either domestic routes - primarily LGW-EDI an
58 Nzrich : If you try booking NZ AKL to AMS you fly KL LHR-AMS
59 Babybus : It was also a strong, growing airline (due to rising GDP) which the free market government needed to be associated with and set as an example. BA, BT
60 AirNz : But you missed the point entirely, and none of which you so eloquently wrote was either disputed, questioned, or even mentioned by me. The fact remai
61 Joost : Not exclusively, it depends a bit on dates and (presumably) availability. Actually, there are BD-operated flights that carry the NZ code on AMS-LHR.
62 Sam1987 : If the opportunity came up they would find the funds - this is a once in a lifetime opportunity for them. In a recent interview, Willie Walsh said th
63 Paulcaz : Lufthansa will let BMI slowly die, Their Slots at Heathrow are worth Approx £700 million or more . I bet there will be no BMI in 5 years time!
64 AirNz : Not at all, and shows absolutely no 'problem' whatsoever. Airlines will normally, and quite happily, interline various aspects with each other and al
65 JFKMan : Sad demise of a past great airline is upon us.
66 VV701 : BD's slots at LHR cannot be worth anywhere near £700 million, let alone more. How do we know this? Well Michael Bishop owned half of BD. He had a "p
67 BestWestern : Basically all SMB had to do was keep the airline afloat for those 10 years to cash in at the end. Were the Heathrow slot valuations were an excellent
68 Jfk777 : BA and Virgin bids for teh Prime Minister's trips, VA may have changed their strategy ? But where is it law the PM has to fly BA ? HE just has to fly
69 FlyCaledonian : I never said it was law the Primeminster had to fly BA. My post was in response to another poster who claimed that the UK Government always protected
70 Sam1987 : There is no law as to which airline Gordon Brown flies - it doesn't even have to be British. VS offered Downing Street a better deal so they went for
71 BA174 : Exactly BMI operate the same engines etc that the BA ones fly and half of the BMI fleet still has BA seats from the BMED days. I wonder were the BMI
72 Slz396 : Any particular source? Or just rumour? Are all frequencies kept, or is there a reduction in flights once the slot transfer to SN is completed? Would
73 Glom : What about the domestic route into LHR? Will new T2 not have a domestic wing?
74 Slz396 : Does anybody know if LX/SN are going to pay for the slots they'll get from BD at LHR, or are these just transferred from one LH entity to another with
75 LHR27C : No he doesn't - Blair flew on a Swiss registered DC8 to JNB a few years ago.
76 Jfk777 : AS Prime Minister or private citizen Blair ? A irlines can have airplanes registered in countries other then their own. How many leased airplanes aro
77 Evomutant : As PM. It went U/S on the takeoff roll on the way home If I remember correctly, and he was stranded for a while.
78 LXA340 : When LH took over LX they were already in the middle of restructuring and cutting the fleet and the amount of employees. Since 2006 when LX turned pr
79 LHR27C : As Prime Minister, and the aircraft (HB-IGH) was operated by a Swiss operator, Jet Aviation, based in ZRH. So no, there is no rule that the PM has to
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Independence To Cut 600 Jobs posted Wed Sep 28 2005 21:15:11 by SunValley
Singapore Airlines To Cut 600 Jobs posted Mon Jun 16 2003 20:11:34 by Britair
How Many People Are Going To Lose Their Jobs? posted Sat Mar 15 2003 17:18:17 by Hole_courtney
UAL To Cut 9 000 Jobs And Save $1.3 Bln In Pay posted Mon Nov 18 2002 19:51:07 by Singapore_Air
Boeing To Cut 600 Jobs posted Sat May 26 2001 20:16:05 by Jiml1126
600 Jobs To Go At BMI. posted Wed Oct 3 2001 14:39:36 by Hkgspotter1
US Cuts 600 Jobs, Club In LAS To Close posted Tue Jul 14 2009 12:01:04 by RafflesKing
AI To Sell Older A320s And Return Leased Aircraft posted Thu Jun 4 2009 02:40:48 by Aviationbuff
Virgin Atlantic To Cut 600 UK Jobs posted Thu Feb 12 2009 06:01:23 by AmricanShamrok
OceanAir Cuts 600 Jobs, Fleet And Routes posted Wed May 14 2008 15:14:27 by Summa767