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Some Cool Old Pics Of JFK/Idlewild  
User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 15857 times:

Stumbled across this neat site and thought some of you might enjoy these old pictures:
http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16750

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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8092 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 15807 times:
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Great early 1960's photos at the beginning of JFK.

User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 15662 times:
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Man, those are some really great photos. Thanks for sharing the link.

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User currently offlineBrenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1569 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 15469 times:

What is the BOAC bird in the third or fourth photo?


I'm tired of the A vs. B sniping. Neither make planes that shed wings randomly!
User currently offlineIke From Brazil, joined Aug 2007, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 15355 times:

Thank you for sharing.

User currently offlineRIX From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1785 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 15350 times:

Looks like Bristol Britannia?

User currently offlineTiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 15116 times:

The fifth picture is the administration building (IIRC) with the tower. That building reminds me a lot of the "City-County Building" in downtown Indianapolis. Nice photos.

Ciao

David



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User currently offlineBrenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1569 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 15069 times:



Quoting RIX (Reply 5):

I'm talking of the jet airliner that looks suspiciously like a DC-9 with the T-tail and tailmounted engines.



I'm tired of the A vs. B sniping. Neither make planes that shed wings randomly!
User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5911 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 15020 times:



Quoting Brenintw (Reply 7):
I'm talking of the jet airliner that looks suspiciously like a DC-9 with the T-tail and tailmounted engines.

Looks like a VC-10 to me. The lightning makes it difficult to note that there's two engines on either side of the tail.


User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1639 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 15006 times:



Quoting Brenintw (Reply 7):

'Tis a Vickers VC-10, the British longhaul jetliner, was BOAC's flagship and used extensively over the pond.


User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3035 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 14985 times:

There is a book called "Recapturing the Dream - A Design History of New York's JFK Airport".

If you like these pictures, you'd love this book.



FLYi
User currently offlineAircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1630 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 14985 times:

Way too cool! Many thanks!

Funny, for an international airport... It gives me an impression of calm...

And really, I so much appreciate Saarinen's terminal. I had never seen the inside. Stunning!


User currently offlineAvroArrow From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 1045 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 13421 times:

Definitely some great stuff in there. At the risk of sounding like a meanie, I'm pretty sure that link has been posted here before, but I can't remember when exactly. I am pretty sure it was within the last year though I'm not quite awake enough yet to guarantee the veracity of my statements.  Smile


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User currently offlineBrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4058 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 12839 times:



Quoting Brenintw (Reply 3):
What is the BOAC bird in the third or fourth photo?

I believe that it is a VC-10. They use to fly them over the Atlantic to YYZ and I have an old photo that my Dad took of me getting on one when I first went to England to visit my relatives. I was two or three years old.



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User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 12047 times:



Quoting AvroArrow (Reply 12):
At the risk of sounding like a meanie, I'm pretty sure that link has been posted here before, but I can't remember when exactly

Yes, it was...I too remember seeing this before.....but it's great to see it again  smile 


User currently offlineFlyPIJets From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 863 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 11710 times:

There is a picture, above which it states "1966:Notice the prominence of the ESB in the background." The photo is of three buildings near a manmade pond. What are these?


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User currently offlineACKattack From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 64 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 11411 times:

The one thing that struck me from these photos were the dominance of 707s. Their is one in almost every shot. It seems like the complaining of today about everything being the same WB or NB twins, with the remembrance of more diverse days, when those days were filled with tons of 707s and a few props.

User currently offlinePacificClipper From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 10767 times:

Amazing shots! A wide variety of aircraft, beautiful, unique terminal buildings and plenty of open space to take it all in.

Glad that there was a shot of the EA terminal - probably the least photographed of the original unit terminals. All that was needed was a snap or two of the Sundrome and BOAC terminals.

Thanks for sharing the link.



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User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6709 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 10516 times:



Quoting FlyPIJets (Reply 15):
three buildings near a manmade pond. What are these?

The three chapels.


User currently offlineSkymiler From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 511 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 10422 times:



Quoting Brilondon (Reply 13):
I believe that it is a VC-10.

Absolutely a VC-10. Look at that huge wing, which was needed for the hot and high Central and South African routes.

Flew them on the "Daytime Monarch" from JFK to LHR several times, in their latter years.

Loved those 4 Conways with the incredible racket out the back!



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User currently offlineSkymiler From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 511 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 10364 times:

And is that not a Convair 880 in the same pic as the VC-10?


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User currently offlineOkie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2854 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 10304 times:

Try identifying the automobiles as well. Make, model and year.

Okie


User currently offlineEvomutant From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 451 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 10290 times:

Great pics.

That BOAC VC-10 is drop dead gorgeous...


User currently offlineShany From Germany, joined Jul 2008, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 10264 times:



Quoting Skymiler (Reply 20):
And is that not a Convair 880 in the same pic as the VC-10?

I see a BOAC VC-10, a LH B707, a KLM DC-8 and a PA B707.

Shany



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User currently offlineFlyPIJets From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 863 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 9624 times:



Quoting Timz (Reply 18):


Quoting FlyPIJets (Reply 15):
three buildings near a manmade pond. What are these?

The three chapels.

Really!?! What's the story there? Anyone have any more pics of these. They look like interesting buildings. I assume they are gone now.



DC-8, DC-9, DC-10, F28, 717, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, IL-62, L-1011, MD-82/83, YS-11, DHC-8, PA-28-161, ERJ 135/145, E-1
25 Idlewild : What an absolutely beautiful airport JFK was. From what I understand, all of the pond and fountains had to be drained because they attracted migrating
26 Jetstar : A trip down memory lane. When I was in my late teens I would go to Idlewild at least once a month and whenever an airline opened their new terminal or
27 Avro7 : The Mercedes-Benz motorcoach in the 11th picture is intresting; M-B commercial trucks (seperate division from automobiles) didn't really come one the
28 Timz : The left (west) chapel was the synagogue (with the stone tablets forming the south wall), the middle one was Protestant and the east was Catholic. You
29 EA CO AS : Man, back in the day I LOVED the old EA terminal at JFK! It was awesome how the drive was inside on both the upper and lower levels, and that main lo
30 Post contains images Malaysia : Well I would be lost at that part  but surprising to see a Mercedes Bus in the US at that time, they are rare here nowadays[Edited 2009-11-27 16:10:
31 Post contains links and images Viscount724 : It's actually a Super VC-10. BA never used their shorter (by 13 ft.) and shorter-range standard VC-10s on transatlantic routes. Bristol Britannia 312
32 Jetstar : All the chapels at JFK have been relocated to the 4th floor of Terminal 4 Yes I remember the upper and lower roadways for arriving and departing pass
33 Spacecadet : This was posted here about a year ago. Still, great photos. JFK is unrecognizable compared to this now. There is basically no open space anymore.
34 Maxpower1954 : Since the Sundrome opened in 1969 (National's cool glass- walled terminal, then TWA and JetBlue) what terminal were they in prior to that? They had a
35 Maverick623 : The last picture in the first set of the TWA planes sent chills down my spine.
36 EA CO AS : True. I remember that uphill walk! I read somewhere that Eddie Rickenbacker was very hesitant to order jetways as well.
37 Post contains links Flybywire777 : What was the origional runway configuration of JFK? Here are some '86 photos http://www.michaelprophet.com/NewYorkAirport.html
38 RJpieces : Well the TWA and Pan Am terminals are still there. Until three years ago, the American and United terminals were here as well....But yes, a lot has c
39 VC10 : You are correct in saying that it is a Super VC-10 in the picture as one can tell by the rear passenger door being behind the wing. However you are i
40 Ramprat74 : Great pics Flybywire77! JFK was the mecca for International airlines into the US. I liked the DC-8-62 chartered by LOT. They were many years away from
41 Post contains links Timz : This pic is before the airport opened, but AFAIK these were the only runways in use for the first year or two. The present 31R is on the right. http:
42 Contrails15 : I love how the inner part of JFK used to look with all the water fountains title pools and so many landscapes. Now its just roads, bridges and eye soa
43 Viscount724 : Were the standard VC-10s operated routinely as part of the regular schedule on those transatlantic routes, or where the flights you mention perhaps s
44 VC10 : As far as I can remember they were regular services, but you will notice from the dates the ones I did were all in the winter months, which might sugg
45 Blueleo65 : Nice link and great pictures, As a fromer passionate TWAer, I feel eleated when pictures like these surface. Having flown through JFK several times, I
46 Jetstar : Looking at the picture of the Save-A-Connie restored Lockheed Constellation parked at the TWA terminal, could you imagine the looks on some passengers
47 PacificClipper : Couldn't have said that any better. Unfortunately truly meaningful architecture is a lost art in this country.
48 Timz : The 1967 map shows NA, AC and TC about where NA's terminal was later built-- apparently in the remnant of the Quonset-hut temporary terminal. One of
49 Gr8Circle : True...but back in the 60's and 70's, there was the B707, the DC-8, the 727, later the 737, the DC-9 and a lot of planes......the 707 and DC-8, in sp
50 Isitsafenow : And listening. They sounded like they are suppose to. Ever been to a NASCAR race, closed your eyes and listened? Now you know what the early and mid
51 RJpieces : It still is!
52 Richierich : The chapels and reflecting ponds are roughly in the central terminal area, where the interchange between the JFK expressway and Van Wyck expressway n
53 VC10 : I think you will find that it must have been after April 1965 as I believe this was the introduction date of the VC-10 on the North Atlantic routes B
54 Isitsafenow : You could be right. We went to the WF in 64 and 65... and of course JFK and LGA. Chances are it was probably the Super VC-10. thanks for that. safe
55 Richierich : People always wax poetic about a time gone by that cannot be recaptured except in photograph or video. I am too young to have experienced a time when
56 Viscount724 : My question was whether the standard VC-10 (as opposed to the stretched and longer-range Super VC-10) was used regularly on North Atlantic routes. I
57 Richierich : Sorry, I was not trying to insult your intelligence! Indeed your question is beyond the scope of what I can answer. Still, I do like hearing stories
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