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Aer Lingus Performance At LGW  
User currently offlineDelta777jet From Germany, joined Jun 2000, 1247 posts, RR: 3
Posted (4 years 8 months 1 day ago) and read 5341 times:

Used for the past few weeks often Aer Lingus new routes out of LGW to WAW and TFS.

On the very long trip and at redicolous low price there was just 50 pax on my outbound and inbound flight from TFS into LGW. Also I was able to count how many disembarked at TFS and it was about the same amount of passengers. How long Aer Lingus can afford to fly A320's for 4 hours each way with just 50 pax on board ? I was thinking such a holiday route would attract many more people to fly.

On the WAW flights I noticed a quite good load factor of around 110 pax each flight, so this must be much better performing for them than the TFS flights.

Anybody has an insight ?


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User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6321 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 5219 times:

It's difficult to judge an entire route performance on just two flights, especially on routes that only started a month ago. That being said, I have heard from someone who's cabin crew at Aer Lingus that loads on both TFS and ACE are very hit and miss, sometimes totally full and other times close to empty. It's also interesting to note that neither appear in the summer schedule so it wouldn't surprise me to see them dropped if the loads are indeed so hit and miss.

Regarding the other routes, I think Ireland West Knock does quite well, the load factor has stayed around 70% since it launched in April and most of the other routes which were originally launched have done well in terms of load factor but in early summer the Aer Lingus chairman said they weren't having problems filling aircraft but achieving good yields on some routes. What management are probably most pleased about at the moment is the lower cost base they have gained at their two UK bases, both BFS and LGW are substantially cheaper to operate than the Irish bases at the moment.

Time will tell if the Gatwick base works out for Aer Lingus, they have a good product and low fares so I hope it does do well for them.


User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 22 hours ago) and read 5105 times:

e.g. the LGW-EIN flights... timing is not too good, and once a day only.
We also have FR performing twice daily, with good schedules, between STN and EIN.
So I can't see a success on the new EI route, and it might even be over capacity between those two cities...



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User currently offlineRutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2961 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 22 hours ago) and read 5076 times:
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November is the lowest point for holiday travel from the UK period.

Nothing can be gleaned about trends during this month.

Brits just don't travel now until after Christmas when the ski seasons start or the dark nights take their toll and a bit of winter sun in the Canaries Red Sea or further afield lures.


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12408 posts, RR: 37
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 22 hours ago) and read 5076 times:

I think we will definitely see some changes for the Summer, but a lot will depend on what BA does; it's my strong believe that there will be a tie between routes dropped by BA and added by EI, although we have not as yet seen an announcement about this.

We may also see some progress made in EI obtain a British AOC, which might see (a) EI adding routes to places like Russia, Egypt and Turkey and (b) a long haul base being established there.


User currently offlineHeeBeeGB From Finland, joined Sep 2007, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 22 hours ago) and read 5059 times:

November is probably the worst month for air travel (well for UK) so I wouldn't analyse the performance of an airline on how many passengers fly LGW-TFS in November.

Also, although the Canaries have year round sunshine November is far from high season.


User currently offlineShamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1596 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 20 hours ago) and read 4894 times:

DUB-TFS does very well at this time of year, even with FR competition! Canairies flight for flight are probably the highest yeilding EI routes!

User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 5 hours ago) and read 3510 times:



Quoting HeeBeeGB (Reply 5):
November is probably the worst month for air travel (well for UK) so I wouldn't analyse the performance of an airline on how many passengers fly LGW-TFS in November.

Also, although the Canaries have year round sunshine November is far from high season.

Very true but at the right price you can stimulate demand and fill any seats.

The Canary islands are always the most popular at this time of year as there are very few other places in Europe that have nearly guaranteed sunshine.

What EI are missing out on is a package tour company link. Hopefully those TFS flights will be full from mid December onwards. If they're not, then you know there is a problem.


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