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User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4454 posts, RR: 5
Posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5070 times:

It's been a while since I flew on US Airways but they were the only game in town for my Thanksgiving flights. While I normally fly CO I was quite impressed by the professionalism demonstrated by everyone working at US and their affiliates. I do have some questions though.

What does the future hold for their 737-300s? I flew on two of these aircraft and they seem like tried and true workhorses. I know that US and AW merged but their seemed to be an awful lot of 737s on the ramp for a company that seemed to be an Airbus airline. Also, what does the future hold for their 737-400 fleet?

What does A320-200 OEW mean? I flew between Charlotte and Jacksonville last night and the aircraft had the OEW printed on its emergency card. I'm not sure as to the delivery dates on the equipment, but the A320 groaned, creeked and made more weird noises than either of the 737-300s I had flown on a few days earlier!

Originally, I thought that the interiors on the 737-300s were extremely worn. While they do need to be replaced, the old seats were actually quite comfortable. Kind of like an old worn out couch that needs replacing but is still in semi-working order. When I saw an A320-200 for my final flight, I thought for sure I would see US's "REAL" product. The interior on the A320 was worse than the older 737s. I'm not as picky as my friends but if US wants to compete with the majors, they need to retrofit their cabins.


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User currently offlineUSFlyer MSP From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5053 times:



Quoting CX747 (Thread starter):
What does A320-200 OEW mean?

OEW aircraft have life rafts and vests so that they can fly farther away from the coast than the normal A32X's. US used to have OEW 737's as well. US mainly uses them for flights to the Caribbean and flights that need to cross the Gulf of Mexico.


User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1904 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4792 times:

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User currently offlineULMFlyer From Brazil, joined Sep 2006, 475 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4627 times:



Quoting CX747 (Thread starter):
It's been a while since I flew on US Airways but they were the only game in town for my Thanksgiving flights. While I normally fly CO

Funny, I could have written these sentences myself. Just had a couple of US flights on Thanksgiving weekend, both on J due to the upgrade offered at check-in. And chose to accrue OnePass instead of Dividend miles.

Outbound was on a 734. To be honest, it looked fine, dated but not worn out at all. Great attentive cabin crew throughout the flight and who didn't mind storing my coat up front when I asked at boarding, even before realizing I was in J.

Return leg on an A322 OEW. I didn't notice any weird noises, but the cabin itself was like yours, badly battered and worn out. And the cabin crew unfortunately was more interested in chatting in the galley than taking care of pax. It was obviously their last flight of the day. They also had their carry-ons inside the coat cabinets and didn't bother asking any of the J pax with coats on their laps if they'd like to hang them.



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User currently offlinePI4EVER From United States of America, joined May 2009, 673 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4514 times:
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Its EOW - Equipped Over Water.
I laughed when a fellow passenger answering his wife's question told her it stood for "East or West." "That way the plane can fly to Charlotte or San Francisco."
I believe the plan is to standardize all US interiors with blue leather seats with the exception of 737-300's which likely will leave the fleet soon. The 734 will likely remain for several more years as a result of the recent decision to defer Airbus deliveries. That topic was recently discussed on this forum and that posting may have more relative information than this note of mine.
Someone more in the know at US may be able to comment on cabin programs underway but US has completed 734, 767 and ETOPS 757 interiors in the last year so I believe the higher ups are aware of the on-going need to keep pace with competitors. I suspect $$$ may be an issue right now, but again that point may be clarified by a US person more in the know.
My experience on US has been sort of hit or miss so I rely on DL, WN and FL. My brother however has flown US extensively the last 6 months, choosing US over DL due to better scheduling, and he really enjoys the service. Not one complaint in over 25 segments, and specifically commented that US's on-time performance far exceeds DL and AA.
So, over the water or east or west, glad to hear you had a good ride with them.
Thomas



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User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4454 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4494 times:

Any reason as to why the 733s are leaving the fleet while the 734s have had cabin upgrades? With the recent deferment of additional A32Xs, will the 733 fleet have a stay of execution?


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User currently offlineSilentbob From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2079 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4448 times:



Quoting CX747 (Reply 5):
Any reason as to why the 733s are leaving the fleet while the 734s have had cabin upgrades? With the recent deferment of additional A32Xs, will the 733 fleet have a stay of execution?

Owned vs leased? Some of the deferments were thanks to lessors allowing US to extend the leases on some of the 733s at almost no cost.


User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8488 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4390 times:

The 734 has more seats so it is more fuel efficient and likely a bit newer. It is also a rarer airplane that would not fare too well on the secondhand market. Since they can choose what to keep, they are keeping the 734. After all, why not. It works for the job they assign to it.

User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5771 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4215 times:



Quoting CX747 (Thread starter):
but the A320 groaned, creeked and made more weird noises than either of the 737-300s I had flown on a few days earlier!

Welcome to the joys of A320 flying.

Quoting BlatantEcho (Reply 2):
the 7373s are tired, tired, tired no doubt about it

They wer tired, tired, tired when I flew on them in 2001.

Quoting CX747 (Reply 5):
Any reason as to why the 733s are leaving the fleet while the 734s have had cabin upgrades?

The 734s have a lower operating cost (per ASM) than the 733s.

Quoting Flighty (Reply 7):
The 734 has more seats so it is more fuel efficient and likely a bit newer.

I don't think that, in US's case, they're newer; US has the original 737-401 models from Piedmont... as far as classic 737s go, they're...... competing with the age of dirt.

Quoting Flighty (Reply 7):
It works for the job they assign to it

Agreed; Alaska also has a large (for AS) fleet of 737-490s, and they're not going anywhere. In fact, AS returned 3 737-700s to lessors recently (and didn't fit them with winglets beforehand), but to my knowledge, they've kept all of their 734s.


User currently offlineNWA320 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3935 times:

So are all 734's ex Piedmont, or were some delivered new or 2nd hand to US?

User currently offlineMSYPI7185 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 710 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3777 times:



Quoting NWA320 (Reply 9):
So are all 734's ex Piedmont, or were some delivered new or 2nd hand to US?

Most were delivered after the merger agreement with USAir, but IIRC we received about 1/2 of them prior to the merger of the Operating Certificates. Deliveries started with Piedmont, all 734's were delivered new to PI and US.

MD


User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3712 times:



Quoting CX747 (Thread starter):
but the A320 groaned, creeked and made more weird noises than either of the 737-300s I had flown on a few days earlier!

Haha, I actually prefer the a320 over the 737 (from a pax point of view, mainly because of the window placement), the sounds can be a bit disconcerting if you are not used to flying a320.

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 8):
The 734s have a lower operating cost (per ASM) than the 733s.

The same reason other airlines are keeping the 734 and ditching the 733 and 735. KL for example is also getting rid of their 733's (they still have a few left), but the 734 will stay for a little while still.



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User currently offlineN7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1720 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3468 times:
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Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 8):
but to my knowledge, they've kept all of their 734s.

Alaska has returned (6) 737-4Q8's to lessors and there are (2) more scheduled to go back. 5 of the returns went back this year.

Alaska has a zero fleet growth strategy so as more 737-800's come along, you will see some more 734's go back to lessors or perhaps be sold. Additionally ASA has stated it wants to try and sell about a half-dozen 737-700's next year.


User currently offlineNWA320 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3436 times:



Quoting Kappel (Reply 11):
I actually prefer the a320 over the 737 (from a pax point of view, mainly because of the window placement)

I do too, but this summer when flying on an A320 I got one of those lousy rows where you have to lean way forward or way back to see out the window, quite a bummer on a long flight!

Quoting MSYPI7185 (Reply 10):
Most were delivered after the merger agreement with USAir, but IIRC we received about 1/2 of them prior to the merger of the Operating Certificates. Deliveries started with Piedmont, all 734's were delivered new to PI and US.

MD

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