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EU Updates Blacklist

LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22026 posts, RR: 51
Posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5861 times:

Revised EU list is out

Quote:
EU Widens Ban on Airlines in Africa, Further Eases TAAG Curbs

Nov. 27 (Bloomberg) -- The European Union prohibited all airlines based in the African nations of Djibouti, the Republic of Congo and Sao Tome and Principe from flying in the bloc while further easing curbs on TAAG Angola Airlines under the latest changes to a list of unsafe carriers.

Full story
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601085&sid=a.ZTuO1gH4sg

EU List
http://ec.europa.eu/transport/air-ban/doc/list_en.pdf

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Oneworld77 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2008, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 5654 times:

Interesting. Didn't/Don't Daalo fly JIB-CDG-LGW?

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Runway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2037 posts, RR: 39
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5403 times:

Apparently Egypt Air narrowly escaped being on that list.

Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21464 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5269 times:

Quoting Runway23 (Reply 2):
Apparently Egypt Air narrowly escaped being on that list.

What's your source of that information? That would be very surprising since MS has passed the IATA Operational Safety Audit, unlike any of the airlines on the EU blacklist. If MS had safety concerns I'm sure their Star Alliance partners would also be very interested.

ThegreatRDU From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2273 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5256 times:

Quoting Runway23 (Reply 2):
Apparently Egypt Air narrowly escaped being on that list.

Really? Enlighten us....

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Lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10660 posts, RR: 100
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5251 times:

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Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 3):

What's your source of that information? That would be very surprising since MS has passed the IATA Operational Safety Audit, unlike any of the airlines on the EU blacklist.

Good point.

TO Runway23, please post a link with any statement as strong as you just stated. I have been hearing zero scuttlebutt about MS.

There are enough airlines on the list already. duck

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* Note: I like the concept of the list. Something had to be done.

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LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22026 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5236 times:

Yes Egypt Air has had continued problems, and has been on the edge of joining the list.

Yemeni and EgyptAir avoid blacklist as blanket ban widens
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...acklist-as-blanket-ban-widens.html

A few weeks ago Star even had a special meeting to come up with plan for the alliance if Egypt Air was included on the list.

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MHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1050 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5168 times:

Will a ban on Sao Tome and Principe do anything? I believe all STP Airways flights are operated by EuroAtlantic, so it would appear that the ban doesn't affect them. Also, what is the logic behind banning carriers that don't operate flights into the EU as it is? Does is also forbid them from selling tickets in the EU or something?

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 6):
Yes Egypt Air has had continued problems, and has been on the edge of joining the list.

This was also discussed back in July. It would seem that it hasn't been publicized very much, which is lucky for MS.

http://www.pprune.org/middle-east/381706-egyptair-hot-water-eu.html

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/other...s/976317-egyptair-think-again.html

Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21464 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5056 times:

Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 7):
Also, what is the logic behind banning carriers that don't operate flights into the EU as it is?

It's probably just to cover all bases in case one of those carriers, many of which are cargo operators, was to plan an ad hoc charter etc. to Europe.

BestWestern From Ireland, joined Sep 2000, 6427 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5043 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 6):
Yes Egypt Air has had continued problems, and has been on the edge of joining the list.

This was reported by RATI months ago also.

The world is really getting smaller these days

Jfklucky777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4748 times:

I work at JFK and have heard about pretty unsafe practices at MS. I haven't heard the following from folks who work at MS (they wouldn't admit this anyway) but apparently when MS was extremely full and didn't have any more space for baggage they would put bags between ULD's in the belly of the A/C!

Granted, these are rumors but even the worst rumors have a hint of truth behind them!

RAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4589 times:

Quoting Oneworld77 (Reply 1):
Interesting. Didn't/Don't Daalo fly JIB-CDG-LGW?

Yes, but with Air Slovakia wet-leased aircraft and crews...

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Tone2245 From Thailand, joined Nov 2008, 3 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4336 times:

i have question for blacklist of indonesia
if indonesia airasia got blacklist why airasia (in malaysia) and thai airasia not got blacklist
why they have different? any one have imformation?

Afterburner From Indonesia, joined Jun 2005, 1102 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4257 times:

Quoting Tone2245 (Reply 12):
if indonesia airasia got blacklist why airasia (in malaysia) and thai airasia not got blacklist

AirAsia (Malaysia), Indonesia AirAsia, and Thai AirAsia are three different airlines registered in three different countries.

Varig767 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 243 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3757 times:

Unbelievable "Safe Air Company" from the Democratic Republic of Congo is included in the list... Big grin

FlyIGuy From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 837 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2735 times:

Quoting Jfklucky777 (Reply 10):
but apparently when MS was extremely full and didn't have any more space for baggage they would put bags between ULD's in the belly of the A/C!

I have seen this done before, granted when it does occur the loose bags are cargo netted in place...

The opinions I post are of mine and mine alone, not of the airline I work for.

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