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EU Updates Blacklist  
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26137 posts, RR: 50
Posted (5 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 6649 times:

Revised EU list is out

Quote:
EU Widens Ban on Airlines in Africa, Further Eases TAAG Curbs

Nov. 27 (Bloomberg) -- The European Union prohibited all airlines based in the African nations of Djibouti, the Republic of Congo and Sao Tome and Principe from flying in the bloc while further easing curbs on TAAG Angola Airlines under the latest changes to a list of unsafe carriers.

Full story
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601085&sid=a.ZTuO1gH4sg

EU List
http://ec.europa.eu/transport/air-ban/doc/list_en.pdf


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User currently offlineOneworld77 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2008, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 6442 times:

Interesting. Didn't/Don't Daalo fly JIB-CDG-LGW?


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User currently offlineRunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2222 posts, RR: 35
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6191 times:

Apparently Egypt Air narrowly escaped being on that list.

User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25989 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6057 times:



Quoting Runway23 (Reply 2):
Apparently Egypt Air narrowly escaped being on that list.

What's your source of that information? That would be very surprising since MS has passed the IATA Operational Safety Audit, unlike any of the airlines on the EU blacklist. If MS had safety concerns I'm sure their Star Alliance partners would also be very interested.


User currently offlineThegreatRDU From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2311 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6044 times:



Quoting Runway23 (Reply 2):
Apparently Egypt Air narrowly escaped being on that list.

Really? Enlighten us....



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User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13520 posts, RR: 100
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6039 times:
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Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 3):

What's your source of that information? That would be very surprising since MS has passed the IATA Operational Safety Audit, unlike any of the airlines on the EU blacklist.

Good point.

TO Runway23, please post a link with any statement as strong as you just stated. I have been hearing zero scuttlebutt about MS.

There are enough airlines on the list already.  duck *

* Note: I like the concept of the list. Something had to be done.

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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26137 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6024 times:

Yes Egypt Air has had continued problems, and has been on the edge of joining the list.

Yemeni and EgyptAir avoid blacklist as blanket ban widens
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...acklist-as-blanket-ban-widens.html

A few weeks ago Star even had a special meeting to come up with plan for the alliance if Egypt Air was included on the list.



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User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1109 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5956 times:

Will a ban on Sao Tome and Principe do anything? I believe all STP Airways flights are operated by EuroAtlantic, so it would appear that the ban doesn't affect them. Also, what is the logic behind banning carriers that don't operate flights into the EU as it is? Does is also forbid them from selling tickets in the EU or something?

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 6):
Yes Egypt Air has had continued problems, and has been on the edge of joining the list.

This was also discussed back in July. It would seem that it hasn't been publicized very much, which is lucky for MS.

http://www.pprune.org/middle-east/381706-egyptair-hot-water-eu.html

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/other...s/976317-egyptair-think-again.html


User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25989 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5844 times:



Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 7):
Also, what is the logic behind banning carriers that don't operate flights into the EU as it is?

It's probably just to cover all bases in case one of those carriers, many of which are cargo operators, was to plan an ad hoc charter etc. to Europe.


User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7302 posts, RR: 57
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5831 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 6):
Yes Egypt Air has had continued problems, and has been on the edge of joining the list.

This was reported by RATI months ago also.



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User currently offlineJfklucky777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 75 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5536 times:

I work at JFK and have heard about pretty unsafe practices at MS. I haven't heard the following from folks who work at MS (they wouldn't admit this anyway) but apparently when MS was extremely full and didn't have any more space for baggage they would put bags between ULD's in the belly of the A/C!

Granted, these are rumors but even the worst rumors have a hint of truth behind them!


User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5377 times:
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Quoting Oneworld77 (Reply 1):
Interesting. Didn't/Don't Daalo fly JIB-CDG-LGW?

Yes, but with Air Slovakia wet-leased aircraft and crews...

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User currently offlineTone2245 From Thailand, joined Nov 2008, 3 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5124 times:
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i have question for blacklist of indonesia
if indonesia airasia got blacklist why airasia (in malaysia) and thai airasia not got blacklist
why they have different? any one have imformation?


User currently offlineAfterburner From Indonesia, joined Jun 2005, 1219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5045 times:



Quoting Tone2245 (Reply 12):
if indonesia airasia got blacklist why airasia (in malaysia) and thai airasia not got blacklist

AirAsia (Malaysia), Indonesia AirAsia, and Thai AirAsia are three different airlines registered in three different countries.


User currently offlineVarig767 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 243 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4545 times:

Unbelievable "Safe Air Company" from the Democratic Republic of Congo is included in the list... Big grin

User currently offlineFlyIGuy From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3523 times:



Quoting Jfklucky777 (Reply 10):
but apparently when MS was extremely full and didn't have any more space for baggage they would put bags between ULD's in the belly of the A/C!

I have seen this done before, granted when it does occur the loose bags are cargo netted in place...



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