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Status Of Delta Seat Upgrades In Y  
User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4748 times:

Which Delta aircraft have the new slimline, blue leather seats in Coach? Which Delta aircraft are getting it? What are the ex-NW aircraft getting--new blue leather covers or the slimline seats?

Also, do any Delta aircraft have those new seats that recline back while pushing the seat forward? Do passengers like those? They look like a good trade off to me but I've never tried them...

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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6435 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks ago) and read 4699 times:



Quoting RJpieces (Thread starter):
Which Delta aircraft have the new slimline, blue leather seats in Coach? Which Delta aircraft are getting it? What are the ex-NW aircraft getting--new blue leather covers or the slimline seats?

These seats are found on all 737s, domestic 763s, ex-TWA ETOPS 752s, and the 772LRs, with the latter two having winged headrests.

As for the ex-NW aircraft, they are simply getting the blue leather seat covers for now, however, this is likely to change eventually as DL will soon be installing PTVs on the NW 757s, A319s/A320s, and the 744s. The existing seats do not support PTVs.

Quoting RJpieces (Thread starter):
Also, do any Delta aircraft have those new seats that recline back while pushing the seat forward? Do passengers like those? They look like a good trade off to me but I've never tried them...

Yes, the slimline seats recline back while pushing the seat forward. And in truth, I sat on one of those seats on a DL domestic 763, and I actually found them to be surprisingly comfortable.



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User currently offlineClemsonaj From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 269 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks ago) and read 4640 times:



Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 1):
Yes, the slimline seats recline back while pushing the seat forward. And in truth, I sat on one of those seats on a DL domestic 763, and I actually found them to be surprisingly comfortable.

I agree that these seats are quite comfortable. It took me a few minutes to get used to the seat, but I adjusted and ended up really liking the seat. I found them to be much more comfortable than those on the NWA A320 I flew last week.


User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4373 times:



Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 1):
These seats are found on all 737s, domestic 763s, ex-TWA ETOPS 752s, and the 772LRs, with the latter two having winged headrests.

Every 737 has it already? What is the timeline for installing them on the 757s/MD-80s/767ERs/772ERs?

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 1):
Yes, the slimline seats recline back while pushing the seat forward.

All of the slimline seats do this? Even on the 737s?

Quoting Clemsonaj (Reply 2):
I found them to be much more comfortable than those on the NWA A320 I flew last week.

For some reason, I find NW's A320 seats incredibly uncomfortable...


User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9289 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4355 times:



Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 1):
Yes, the slimline seats recline back while pushing the seat forward. And in truth, I sat on one of those seats on a DL domestic 763, and I actually found them to be surprisingly comfortable.

I did ATL-SFO-CVG on a 763 and 73H and i liked the seats alot.

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 3):
Every 737 has it already?

yes.

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 3):
What is the timeline for installing them on the 757s/MD-80s/767ERs/772ERs?

not sure if the 772ERs and 764ERs will get them.

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 3):
All of the slimline seats do this? Even on the 737s?

yes.



yep.
User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4350 times:

Slimline seats are pretty good but not as good as UA's seats. Can't say yet about NW seats although later today i'm flying EWR-MSP-LAX so I'll let you know what I think soon enough.


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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6435 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4287 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 4):
not sure if the 772ERs and 764ERs will get them.

The 764ERs, 772ERs, and ex-Song Transcon 752s will NOT be getting the slimline seats. They already have seats that support PTVs. In addition, the 764ER and 772ER seats have winded headrests.



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User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9289 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4200 times:



Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 6):
and ex-Song Transcon 752s will NOT be getting the slimline seats

This would be a little bit of a shock if the rest of the 757s get them



yep.
User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6435 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4144 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 7):
This would be a little bit of a shock if the rest of the 757s get them

Well, unless Delta plans on adding more seats to the 757s, I don't see what is the need for them as the seats already have PTVs. The seats they currently feature are the Weber 5150 seats, which has been discontinued by Weber. The 764ER and 772ER also have the same model of seat, except with winged headrests (and in the 772ER's case, mechanically adjustable lumbar support).

From what I have heard, Delta's goal is to have winged headrests in Y on all INTERNATIONAL aircraft. Domestic aircraft that get the slimline seats will not feature winged headrests in Y.



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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3869 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 4):
not sure if the 772ERs and 764ERs will get them.

Anyone know about the MD-80s and non-ex-Song 757s timeline?

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 6):
The 764ERs, 772ERs, and ex-Song Transcon 752s will NOT be getting the slimline seats. They already have seats that support PTVs.

The Y seats in the 772ER are currently blue leather correct?


User currently offlineComorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4896 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3818 times:

Not having headrests on 737s with low friction leather makes for an uncomfortable long distance flight - it's hard to sleep or snooze without your head slipping. This is OK for shorthaul, but is a major pain on transcon. I hope DL will correct this soon.

User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8893 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3791 times:



Quoting Comorin (Reply 10):
Not having headrests on 737s with low friction leather makes for an uncomfortable long distance flight - it's hard to sleep or snooze without your head slipping. This is OK for shorthaul, but is a major pain on transcon. I hope DL will correct this soon.

The lack of headrests is one of my biggest gripes with the Delta seats (and one of my favorite features of UA seating). Having the headrests on all planes in all classes would be a huge improvement.


User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6435 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3770 times:



Quoting RJpieces (Reply 9):
The Y seats in the 772ER are currently blue leather correct?

Yes, however, they will continue to use the existing Weber 5150 seats with winged headrests and mechanical lumbar support.

Quoting Comorin (Reply 10):
Not having headrests on 737s with low friction leather makes for an uncomfortable long distance flight - it's hard to sleep or snooze without your head slipping. This is OK for shorthaul, but is a major pain on transcon. I hope DL will correct this soon.



Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 11):
The lack of headrests is one of my biggest gripes with the Delta seats (and one of my favorite features of UA seating). Having the headrests on all planes in all classes would be a huge improvement.

The long-term goal is to have winged headrests in Y on all international aircraft. Most likely the seats that the 763ERs will get will be the same Weber 5751 slimline seats with winged headrests that the 772LRs and ex-TWA ETOPS 752s have. However, there are currently no plans to introduce winged headrests on any domestic aircraft; the ones getting new seats will probably be the Weber 5751 slimline seats without the winged headrests that the 737 and domestic 763 fleet feature.



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User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3603 times:

So a brief update. EWR-MSP was on a compass E-175 and in F (while no formal meal service) there was unbelievably comfortable seats. Other than possible recovering with the DL blue seat covers, I don't see DL replacing these seats.

MSP-LAX was interesting. First of all, I had no idea whether the 757 was a 5500 or 5600 series plane but it was in new DL colors and had winglets (technically it was my first time flying NW aka 'Bizzaro DL') The aircraft was equipped with old school CRT monitors that were actually in very good shape but just seemed older (maybe 1980s even.) The seats were recovered from the old NW seat fabric to the new DL blue leather fabric. The seats didn't have adjustable headrests (didn't expect them to) but had a padded headrest designed for the neck built into the seat. I found these seats also to be comfortable, despite what I've read about them on a.net.

Everything across the board was DL service with main cabin IFE programming, menu's, uniforms, cups, magazines, safety cards etc. Yet the captain and crew still announced it as a Northwest airlines flight. One of the male F/A's while friendly was wearing the new DL uniform but once he took off his jacket was not wearing his metallic DL wings pin on his shirt. The other female F/A's were wearing the new uniforms. All crew seemed to be either LAX or MSP based. It was overall a very interesting 'transitional' experience and we even got in 20 minutes early.



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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6435 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3532 times:



Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 13):
MSP-LAX was interesting. First of all, I had no idea whether the 757 was a 5500 or 5600 series plane but it was in new DL colors and had winglets (technically it was my first time flying NW aka 'Bizzaro DL') The aircraft was equipped with old school CRT monitors that were actually in very good shape but just seemed older (maybe 1980s even.) The seats were recovered from the old NW seat fabric to the new DL blue leather fabric. The seats didn't have adjustable headrests (didn't expect them to) but had a padded headrest designed for the neck built into the seat. I found these seats also to be comfortable, despite what I've read about them on a.net.

It was definately a 5600-series aircraft, as none of the 5500-series aircraft are currently in DL livery. In fact, the 5500-series may never wear DL livery, as Delta is considering to eliminate them from the fleet.



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User currently offlineN7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1689 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3380 times:
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Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 14):

It was definately a 5600-series aircraft, as none of the 5500-series aircraft are currently in DL livery. In fact, the 5500-series may never wear DL livery, as Delta is considering to eliminate them from the fleet.

To further that thought - not a single 5500 series has been touched either on the outside of the inside. The interior of the 5500 is standard NW fare, even with the N compass logo on the first class bulkhead.


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7521 posts, RR: 28
Reply 16, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3300 times:



Quoting RJpieces (Reply 3):
For some reason, I find NW's A320 seats incredibly uncomfortable...

I believe these were the older A320's that have the same style relatively slim-line seat as the DC-9. Keep in mind the A319, A320, and 752 (5600 series) will be getting all new seats over the next few years as IFE is installed as the current seats do not support PTVs. Its the same seat just with a new leather cover, for now.

Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 13):
So a brief update. EWR-MSP was on a compass E-175 and in F (while no formal meal service) there was unbelievably comfortable seats. Other than possible recovering with the DL blue seat covers, I don't see DL replacing these seats.

Yes, the F seats on the Compass E75's and XJ CR9s is very comfortable, especially if you get an A seat. Its a nice treat, feels like you are on your own corporate jet.

There are no plans to do anything to the seats on the Compass E75s, XJ CR9s, any of the 9E or XJ CRJs, or Saabs (that have gotten the new interiors) since they are all leather as they are. They aren't going to waste the money just to change the color of the seats.

Quoting N7371f (Reply 15):
To further that thought - not a single 5500 series has been touched either on the outside of the inside. The interior of the 5500 is standard NW fare, even with the N compass logo on the first class bulkhead.

Yep, the 752 (5500 series), DC-9-30, and DC-9-40 are they only a/c left in the legacy NW cloth interiors.


User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9289 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3271 times:



Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 16):

Isn't DL adding seats to the NW 757s? (seat count)



yep.
User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7521 posts, RR: 28
Reply 18, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3242 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 17):
Isn't DL adding seats to the NW 757s? (seat count)

Supposedly, yes. They want to add another row to Y in the NW 757s, but it was a vague comment.

There are currently 4 configurations for NW 757's:

5500 (75N) - Domestic
5600 (757) - Domestic
5600 (75A) - Trans-Atlantic Config
5600 (75P) - Interport Config

Supposedly, all of the 5600's are supposed to get another row in Y with the introduction of new seats (slimlines), whenever that is to occur.


User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6435 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3233 times:

With DL adding an addition row to NW's 752s, I wonder, could DL do the same with their ex-Song 752s? The NW domestic 5600-series 752 have 162 seats in Y, soon to be increased to 168. DL's ex-Song 752s have 158 seats in Y. Perhaps it might be quite possible that DL could then indeed replace the existing Weber 5150 seats on the ex-Song 752s with the Weber 5751 slimline seats if DL wants to match the capacity that the NW domestic 5600-series 752s will have. DL is also planning on installing these seats and AVOD on their standard domestic 752s. Perhaps DL could be going for a unified domestic configuration for the 752s.

[Edited 2009-12-07 19:53:04]


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