Ssublyme From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 517 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 years 12 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5216 times:
How has the introduction of the A380 affected connection flights and timings at airline hubs? For instance, going from 2x daily 772/333 to 1 A380 would mean all passengers are at the hub at the same time. Even if the A380 were timed in-between the multi-daily frequencies, what effects does it have on layover times, inability to connect to earlier connecting flights out of the hub that were timed better for the earlier daily, scheduling changes etc. What effects does it have downstream? Perhaps this might only be felt heavily by Emirates when they start receiving more and more of their A380's. Most other carriers have a small enough order that they could put it on their highest O/D routes and not have much in terms of scheduling changes.
I'd be interested to hear from other A.netters in the know what kind of planning changes the A380 has forced/inspired.
AerorobNZ From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7344 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5056 times:
I would say it hasn't had that kind of effect in general because it has been used to increase capacity to places like SYD/DXB/LHR which were already widebodies to start with, rather than condensing flights. The kind of airlines (SQ/EK/AF) that have A380s are heavily reliant on transit rather than local traffic as well SIN/DXB/CDG etc
I would suggest that SQ/EK are more likely to reschedule other non 380 services to connect better with the 380 arrival/departure than the other way around due to limited slots at the main 380 airports and the fact they want to fill with connection pax. SIN-LHR on the 388 will likely have connections from JKT/DPS/MNL/HKG/BKK/KUL/NRT/AKL/PER/BNE/CHC that have probably had minor schedule changes to connect better, but SQ has done that for years before the advent of the A380 - each of the 3x LHR flights for eg have always had slightly different connecting destinations on morning/afternoon/evening Asia for the morning flights/Australasia for the evening flights etc...
EK 388 into AKL became a longer layover. Whereas previously BNE/MEL had the longest layover and SYD was a 777-300ER 1h40 turnaround it has now become a 4hour turnaround, but that could have been due to it becoming DXB-SYD-AKL rather than DXB-BKK-SYD-AKL as well.
Gemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5764 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4911 times:
With only about 20 airframes in service, world wide, with only 3 airlines (& a fourth only last week) it is a bit early to expect answers to such questions.
So far, as most A380s have been direct one for one B744/B77W replacements it hasn't become much of a issue. The only two instances I know of of the A380 replacing two flights with one involve SQ & QF.
SQ replaced 10 weekly B77W on SIN-CDG with 7 weekly A380s. From the thread on it SQ was glad to get rid of the second flight on three days a week as it was a less then optimum schedule and was basically carrying O&D overflow. Replacing it with the A380 reduced costs, connections were not a factor, as connection traffic was already on the A380s schedule.
QF had planned for the A380 to replace the some days third flight on SYD-LAX. It fact the GFC killed it first, but the plan was basically the same as SQ on SIN-CDG. The reduction in frequency was not a problem as the three flights were often described as wing tip to wing tip across the Pacific. An exaggeration, but not that much.
So ask again in a few years and there might be more to report.
Tayser From Australia, joined Mar 2008, 1134 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4767 times:
..and I bet SQ are loving the fact that the A380s they fly to MEL and SYD connect (and are no doubt the same physical aircraft) directly to their other A380 services into LHR and CDG - a nice way to put the wind up QF with its paltry 3x SYD-SIN-LHR A380 service.