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ANA Announces 'Inspiration' New Brand + Product  
User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8135 posts, RR: 26
Posted (4 years 9 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 7174 times:

From today NH has launched an all-new website detailing their new 'Inspiration of Japan' brand and cabin service, to be introduced on the 77W on NRT-JFK flights in February.

Absolutely world class stuff from the looks of it - with typically conservative but very refined Japanese modern design touches throughout. The 1 x 2 x 1 staggered business configuration is certainly interesting.

http://www.ana.co.jp/int/svc/en/new_brand_2010/

First product:

http://www.ana.co.jp/int/svc/en/new_brand_2010/f_class.html

Biz product:

http://www.ana.co.jp/int/svc/en/new_brand_2010/c_class.html

Premium Y product:

http://www.ana.co.jp/int/svc/en/new_brand_2010/py_class.html

Y product:

http://www.ana.co.jp/int/svc/en/new_brand_2010/y_class.html

Can't wait to fly the revamped NHBig grin


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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12438 posts, RR: 37
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7062 times:

Looks like a great new product line; no doubt benefiting from JL's problems (presumably it can't invest the same, if anything in a new product line).

I wonder what NH's plans will be for the 787 product line; I'm thinking J, Y+ and of course Y, but not F? Hopefully not too long left before we find out!


User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30928 posts, RR: 87
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7049 times:
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Really looking forward to try NH's new F product, even if it does kind of remind me of being in an office cubicle.  

The new check-in and lounge especially look interesting.

[Edited 2009-12-02 10:14:06]

User currently offlineYchocky From Canada, joined Jul 2009, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6991 times:

Fantastic looking changes.

Phiten blankets and pillows is a nice touch.

I see a hint of LX in their First product's look and feel. Bit of wood accents never hurt.


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19614 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6954 times:

Wow, what a cabin! I'm impressed!

American carriers are going to have a hard time competing with this product.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6953 times:

Congratulations ANA. This is outstanding!

These beautiful new cabins can give us some ideas of how ANA will equip their first B-787s. I can hardly wait to be on board on their inaugural 787 flight!  airplane 



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User currently offlineNYCAdvantage From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6926 times:

It looks like a great product, NH looks very tempting to me....

User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8135 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6929 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 4):
American carriers are going to have a hard time competing with this product.

Are you kidding? There's already no comparison from any US carrier with the existing product. Beginning this month too:

http://www.ana.co.jp/promotion/ana_my_choice/index_e.html

Premium meals from other classes available for purchase in Y on both domestic and international services, lounge access, and airport valet service - all of which can be arranged and paid for when ticketing. Fantastic.

[Edited 2009-12-02 10:40:49]


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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6903 times:

I wonder if we will have to return the slippers and PJs in First Class after being done with the flight will the stewardesses collect them?  Confused  Yeah sure


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User currently offlineLAXtoATL From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1593 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6640 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Reply 1):
Looks like a great new product line; no doubt benefiting from JL's problems (presumably it can't invest the same, if anything in a new product line).

JAL already has implemented new a F product on their 77Ws and I believe they are already in service between NRT & the U.S. I cannot remember if they integrated a new J or Y product, but I remember thinking I really liked the F product.


User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30928 posts, RR: 87
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6630 times:
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Quoting LAXtoATL (Reply 9):
JAL already has implemented new a F product on their 77Ws and I believe they are already in service between NRT & the U.S.

It's still just NRT-JFK, is it not?


User currently offlineLAXtoATL From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1593 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6470 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 10):
It's still just NRT-JFK, is it not?

I actually think it is also ORD & LAX as well and maybe even SFO.

(Update: I checked the JAL website, and as of October 25 they added the new service on LAX & ORD routes to go along with the existing service already on the JFK & SFO routes. It also appears that business and economy cabins have new products as well as First.)

[Edited 2009-12-02 13:00:42]

User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30928 posts, RR: 87
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 6357 times:
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Cool. I usually take NH out of LAX so hopefully this will mean it is placed on that route early.

User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days ago) and read 6318 times:



Quoting Aaron747 (Thread starter):
Y product:

Interesting, they are also going with a fixed seat back design, like CX. Does NH have the same seat manufacturer as CX or are these different seats. Very interested to see how they compare.



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15735 posts, RR: 27
Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days ago) and read 6311 times:

Looks like this will be a great product.

Quoting Aaron747 (Thread starter):
The 1 x 2 x 1 staggered business configuration is certainly interesting.

Looks a lot like what Etihad does, and it does look comfortable.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19614 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days ago) and read 6297 times:



Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 7):

Are you kidding? There's already no comparison from any US carrier with the existing product. Beginning this month too:

Shhh! Don't say that! Or a herd of elephantine AA FA's will trample you to death!  duck 


User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5249 posts, RR: 25
Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days ago) and read 6264 times:

LOL, I love how they spell champagne as champaign.


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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8344 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days ago) and read 6242 times:
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Absolutely fabuoius looking kind of what Emiraes would be if it were from Japan. The Business Class is huge, teh 777-300ER is going from 267 to 212 seats. Making anything from teh Americas look old and dated.

User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30928 posts, RR: 87
Reply 18, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days ago) and read 6221 times:
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It's interesting that NH is reducing capacity even more, while still running a heavy premium cabin count.

Makes me question even more the claims they were looking at something larger than a 77W, to be honest. NH seems to know just how big the profitable wedge of their market is across all classes and that is who they are targeting on carrying.


User currently offlinePfletch1228 From South Africa, joined Aug 2006, 198 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days ago) and read 6211 times:



Quoting BMI727 (Reply 14):
Looks a lot like what Etihad does, and it does look comfortable.

Actually, it looks almost identical to the Thompson Vantage seats being installed by DL. Same concept as Vantage, identical layout, just some harder edges on the shell and hopefully a better designed tray table...  duck 

A nice return is to see 2 - 4 - 3 layout in Y... ( http://www.aircraftinteriorsinternational.com/news.php?NewsID=17656 ).



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User currently offlineJAL From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 5085 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days ago) and read 6199 times:

The Business Class cabin looks very chaotic, seats not too bad though


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User currently offlineBioyuki From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days ago) and read 6199 times:



Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 17):
The Business Class is huge, teh 777-300ER is going from 267 to 212 seats.

ANA's 77Ws currently seat 247 (8F/77C/24Y+/138Y).

I'm personally thrilled about this and will switch all my UA transpac flying to NH if possible to take advantage of the new business class.



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User currently offlineKFly From Australia, joined May 2004, 195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days ago) and read 6146 times:



Quoting OA412 (Reply 16):
LOL, I love how they spell champagne as champaign.

At least they didn't spell it as "Champagan" :P

Anyway, very nice cabins indeed.



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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8344 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (4 years 9 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6087 times:
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Quoting Bioyuki (Reply 21):
ANA's 77Ws currently seat 247 (8F/77C/24Y+/138Y).

212 for the new one: (8F/ 68J/24Y+/ 112Y ).

That's 26 less Y seats and 9 less J seats. This is less seats then a Singapore or Cathay 77W. CX's 77W seats 301, but no Y plus and only 57 J seats. SIA's 77W seats 270, 42 J and 28 Y seats with 8 F suites( not A380 type).

How can ANA reduce the capacity do Much ?


User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4748 posts, RR: 45
Reply 24, posted (4 years 9 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5966 times:

J looks nice, almost an update of Thompson's Vantage.


Some see lines, others see between the lines.
25 NYC2theworld : Didn't they increase the pitch in Y+ and Y?
26 Jfk777 : 228 Y seats on a SIA 77W.
27 Post contains links VirginFlyer : Seat map for reference - really shows the premium gearing of the product: http://www.ana.co.jp/eng/int/inflight/seatmap/b777_300er_1/index.html Also,
28 FriendlySkies : Looks nice, although that business class layout is an atrocious waste of cabin space.
29 Willyj : I like it, except I don't like how First Class cuts out almost all views out of the windows. Even the Window seats only have the ability to see out of
30 Phileet92 : Looks like there is only one window in the first suite. Perhaps this is a design flaw. Whats the point of having three windows to yourself if you can
31 VC10er : I could be wrong but isn't the new Swiss first class?
32 Beeweel15 : I agree on that. They could have done a better design for the window rows.
33 Glom : Speaking of booking a high case flight with ANA, are they planning to move to T1 with the rest of Star Alliance at LHR? They're still flying out of th
34 NZ107 : Great to see a Japanese touch to the F cabin- the suite shell reminds me of rice paper dividers. Business on the other hand - no space here for couple
35 Tradewinds : Wow. JAL just got pwned. I've been thinking about switching to ANA from JAL for a while now; I might have to make the jump soon.
36 Ag92 : Looking at the seatmap, the Y class is 2 4 3, hmm interesting. But certainly a FCL product which I wouldn't mind flying
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