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User currently offlineLMML 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 6
Posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 11421 times:

On the BA web site it says that Westbound the A318 makes a stop somewhere but does not say where. Anyone knows?

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User currently offlineLHR380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 11411 times:

Shannon for refueling and for Passengers to clear US Immigration.

When you click the next page while looking at price info it tells you, there is also a nice London City Club world section on ba.com telling you all about the service.


User currently offlineLMML 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 11038 times:

Thank you. Info should be accessible and displayed more clearly on the booking page though don't you think? Perhaps you can make a suggestion to your Internet booking deptartment.

User currently offlineJayeshrulz From India, joined Apr 2007, 1029 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 10966 times:

it does stop in the Shannon airport because the A318 cannot take off with the full fuel load from LCY to JFK.
And info really should be clear esp when ure flying biz class.
I prefer to transit via LHR IMO.



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User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 10896 times:



Quoting Jayeshrulz (Reply 3):
And info really should be clear esp when ure flying biz class.

The information is fully clear as you go through the booking process. How much more 'clear' does it need to be? Sorry for being slightly faceticious, but does flying biz class require some sort of special 'understanding'?


User currently offlineBALHRWWCC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 10795 times:

Quoting Jayeshrulz (Reply 3):
I prefer to transit via LHR IMO.

I recently was lucky enough to fly EDI-LCY-SNN-JFK. EDI-LCY on a new E170 which is a much nicer aircraft compared to the RJ85/RJ100's that also operate the route and a billion times more comfortable. On the LCY-JFK (G-EUNB) Excellent service and product and very comfortable. In SNN cleared immigration and was back on the same plane in under 20 mins then was airbourne 30mins after arrival in SNN. I can count on one hand how many times I have had to wait under 1 hr to clear immigration at JFK. The longest wait was 3 hours. Disembarking the aircraft took around 2 minutes in total and with no immigration to clear at JFK you can be through arrivals in between 15-20 mins.

LHR is much easier when transferring in T5 compared to the old T4 to T1 transfer. l still prefer to use LCY where possible. Easy airport to navigate, At LCY you can easily be through immigration and collect your bags in around 15mins. Not heard of at LHR. Also the minimum check in time for LCY is 15mins before departure with hand baggage and 20mins with hold baggage. Meaning you can spend the bare minimum time at the airport. Compared to Heathrow's 45mins.

Also before anyone asks I paid full fair on this route and will do again. BA do not offer rebate travel on this service . Outbound flight (BA001) had only 4 empty seats while the return (BA004) was full. When we checked in their was 5 people on standby most of whom had changed there tickets to try to fly to LCY rather than LHR.

More details about the LCY product can be found here

http://www.britishairways.com/travel/cwlcexp/public/en_gb

[Edited 2009-12-03 05:12:56]

User currently offlineOffloaded From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 904 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 10760 times:



Quoting Jayeshrulz (Reply 3):
I prefer to transit via LHR IMO.

Of course, because from LCY you can only transit to places like AMS, PAR, GVA, ZRH, LUX, DUB etc. It was never designed to compete with LHR.

It is a service aimed at a select group of people (such as bankers) who want the convenience of leaving their offices in Canary Wharf, or city apartments, and being at the airport in 10 minutes, and thereafter airborne in 20 minutes. The fuel stop in SNN is not a bad trade off with US pre-clearance, as when you land in JFK you are treated as a domestic flight.

I enjoyed my ride on BA1 all in all last month, but for me it was more a novelty, and not honestly all that convenient as I am not UK based and was connecting via LGW, but then the service isn't aimed at me.



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User currently offlineFlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2103 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 10751 times:



Quoting LMML 14/32 (Reply 2):
Thank you. Info should be accessible and displayed more clearly on the booking page though don't you think? Perhaps you can make a suggestion to your Internet booking deptartment.

This has been publicised all over Anet, as well as the press, as it was a huge launch for BA. A quick Google search would have given the answer! As to it being more publicised on ba.com, when I booked and made that flight I thought it was very clearly stated that this was a one-stop flight outbound.



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User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6371 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 10543 times:



Quoting Jayeshrulz (Reply 3):
I prefer to transit via LHR IMO.

Not a transit oriented route, as others have stated. The LCY-JFK route was never created with any sort of connection capability on the LCY side, rather a quick and easy way to get from Canary Wharf and London CBD to NYC and beyond on AA.


User currently offlineReadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3357 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 9541 times:

I remember when the airport was first launched and local residents were promised that it would only be turbo props NEVER jets.
You gotta trust those politicians  Yeah sure



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User currently offlineAerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2860 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8221 times:



Quoting Readytotaxi (Reply 9):
NEVER jets.

Aren't there noise regulations?



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User currently offlineRampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3156 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8058 times:



Quoting Readytotaxi (Reply 9):
I remember when the airport was first launched and local residents were promised that it would only be turbo props NEVER jets.
You gotta trust those politicians

How far back? I remember reading about it the early 80s. I could have sworn they were considering Bae 146 service at the time.

-Rampart


User currently offlineReadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3357 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7737 times:

No sir, you are right about the Bae146, but that was what was promised to the locals would not come in. Now your know you can trust a politiciaon at election time.  Wink


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User currently offlineEg777er From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 1837 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7637 times:

My videos of the Club World London City A318 product can be found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8E-nR4uU3Q


User currently offlineSandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7442 times:
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Quoting Eg777er (Reply 13):
My videos of the Club World London City A318 product can be found here:

Would love to take this flight. Slightly geeky observation, but the token 'doing' in the cabin shortly after take off didn't seem to sound? Is this a feature of the STOL A318 or did I just miss it?

Sandyb123



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User currently offlineMdavies06 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2009, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7347 times:



Quoting Eg777er (Reply 13):
My videos of the Club World London City A318 product can be found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8E-n...4uU3Q

Thanks for the videos. They were very nicely done and is a great documentary for what is a truly unique flight.


User currently offlineJayeshrulz From India, joined Apr 2007, 1029 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6341 times:



Quoting SW733 (Reply 8):
Not a transit oriented route, as others have stated. The LCY-JFK route was never created with any sort of connection capability on the LCY side, rather a quick and easy way to get from Canary Wharf and London CBD to NYC and beyond on AA.

nops, if you see their website, if you are travelling in biz clas, eg BOM to JFK, BA website offers min 5 hours gap, and has options whether if u want to travel from LHR or LCY.
Its almost 20,000 INR diff.(370$)
plz correct if i'm wrong, i just checked the website again.



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User currently offlineCrj200faguy From United States of America, joined May 2007, 400 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6243 times:

Is there an embargo on this flight for non rev travel?

User currently offlineLarshjort From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1524 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6108 times:



Quoting Jayeshrulz (Reply 16):
nops, if you see their website, if you are travelling in biz clas, eg BOM to JFK, BA website offers min 5 hours gap, and has options whether if u want to travel from LHR or LCY.
Its almost 20,000 INR diff.(370$)
plz correct if i'm wrong, i just checked the website again

Even though you can book it on the website doesn't mean the route was created for connections. It's just the website exploring all options Like when I search for a biz class BLL-JFK flight on BA. 1 routes me BLL-LCY-JFK, the other BLL-HEL-LHR-JFK.

/Lars



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26127 posts, RR: 50
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6070 times:

I recent weeks I read that the flights were meeting initial expectations, and loads particularly on the Eastbound leg were quite strong.


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User currently offlineYULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2185 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5882 times:



Quoting Readytotaxi (Reply 9):
I remember when the airport was first launched and local residents were promised that it would only be turbo props NEVER jets.
You gotta trust those politicians Yeah sure

Fair to have noise regulations, but are modern medium sized jets such as the A318 really louder than turboprops?



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User currently offlineAussieItaliano From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 442 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5625 times:

Not really that impressed with this service.

They charge for Internet service after you've paid a pretty penny for the ticket.

No on board meal going Eastbound, or even the option for it.

It's not like Heathrow is out in the sticks either.



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User currently offlineBorism From Estonia, joined Oct 2006, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5590 times:



Quoting YULWinterSkies (Reply 20):
Quoting Readytotaxi (Reply 9):
I remember when the airport was first launched and local residents were promised that it would only be turbo props NEVER jets.
You gotta trust those politicians Yeah sure

Fair to have noise regulations, but are modern medium sized jets such as the A318 really louder than turboprops?

I don't think they are! In fact, I like jet noise much more than prop noise. Supersonic buzz that propeller tips make is not very pleasant in my opinion.

With jet engines it really depends on your position relative to exhaust though. And LCY is very tight place. Also buildings and streets around it could produce not-so-pleasant sound effects.


User currently offlineAeroflot001 From Argentina, joined Oct 2009, 412 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4213 times:



Quoting Crj200faguy (Reply 17):
Is there an embargo on this flight for non rev travel?

I would not be surprised if there was one at all.

Any reason as to why this flight foulf not go to LGA. To me it seems like such a great idea. Could anyone shed any light.


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4213 times:



Quoting Aeroflot001 (Reply 23):

Any reason as to why this flight foulf not go to LGA. To me it seems like such a great idea. Could anyone shed any light.

LGA has a perimeter rule which prohibits any flights longer than 1500 miles (save to/from DEN) except on Saturdays.


25 LACA773 : That doesn't make any sense at all. I can see if they offer an option to dine if you're not going to go to sleep and then a hot or cold breakfast pri
26 Post contains links LHR380 : Please see below regarding the meal service. Most passengers in J on night flights back to the UK like to enjoy a meal on the ground, and only a ligh
27 LMML 14/32 : There are only 32 seats on this plane. Why would you want to non rev on these flights? Besides seems they are always full.
28 LHR380 : Yes there is. Why would you not want to? I would love the chance to try this service out.
29 Rivet42 : Actually, the fact that the service is biz-class only rules out non-rev'ing - in my time at BA the standby option for staff only applied to economy c
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