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Avianca's 90th Birthday  
User currently offlineJigarciar From Colombia, joined May 2005, 88 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5874 times:

Today, December 5th 2009, Avianca celebrates its 90th birthday. On December 5 1919, SCADTA (Sociedad Colombo Alemana de Transportes Aereos or Colombian German Society of Air Transport) was borned in Barranquilla, Colombia. Its initial stockholders were Werner Kaemerer, Stuart Hosie, Alberto Tietjen, Ernesto Cortizzos, Rafael Palacio, Cristobal Restrepo, Jacobo Correa and Aristides Noguera.

As a consequence of the World War II, in 1940 the German stockholders were forced to leave their participation in the Company and it was bought by Pan American Airways. Therefore, considering this, among the merger with SACO (another airline), SCADTA changed its name to AVIANCA, Aerovias Nacionales de Colombia (Colombian National Airways), now Aerovias del Continente Americano (American Continent Airways).

After KLM, Avianca is world's second oldest airline. A true legacy carrier and one of the most recognized airlines in the Americas. Today, Avianca has a total of 63 aircraft in its fleet, including A332, A320, A319, B763, B762, B752, F100 and F50 and has international scheduled service to LAX, JFK, IAD, FLL, MIA, MEX, SJO, PTY, SDQ, PUJ, AUA, CUR, CCS, VLN, UIO, GYE, LIM, GRU, EZE, SCL, BCN and MAD and domestic scheduled service to San Andres Island (ADZ), Riohacha (RCH), Santa Marta (SMR), Valledupar (VUP), Barranquilla (BAQ), Cartagena (CTG), Monteria (MTR), Barrancabermeja (EJA), Bucaramanga (BGA), Cucuta (CUC), Medellin (MDE), Bogota (BOG), Ibague (IBE), Niva (NVA), Manizales (MZL), Pereira (PEI), Armenia (AXM), Cali (CLO), Popayan (PPN), Pasto (PSO) and Tumaco (TCO).

We have seen Avianca's colours on this aircraft:

Avro HS-748
Boeing 247
Douglas DC-3
Douglas DC-4
Lockheed L749 Constellation
Lockheed L1049 SuperConstellation
Boeing 707-100/300
Boeing 720B
Boeing 727-100/200 Adv
Boeing 737-100
Boeing 747-100/200
Boeing 757-200
Boeing 767-200ER/300ER
Boeing 787-800 (estimated for 2012)
McDonnell Douglas MD-83
Airbus A319
Airbus A320
Airbus A330-200
Fokker 50
Fokker 100

Happy birthday Avianca!

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User currently offlineAvion660 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5844 times:

¡Feliz cumpleaños!
Thanks for the nice summary.


User currently offlineAv757 From Colombia, joined Apr 2004, 662 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5803 times:

You can see some wonderful historical photos here at the following link with a good article in spanish,

http://www.aviacol.net/noticias-del-...vances/avianca-cumple-90-anos.html

Regards>
AV757


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5934 posts, RR: 41
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5710 times:

Great Day, Feliz cumpleaños Avianca!


Colombia es el Mundo Y el Mundo es Colombia
User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4396 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5638 times:

Happy birthday!

I'ts really surprising that neither KL nor AV made a fuss about their 90th birthdays....


User currently offlineStandby87 From Switzerland, joined Jul 2001, 536 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5612 times:

Muchas gracias - thanks everyone for the news and the link AV757

Happy Birthday AV - but best not mention ACES hey?!


User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2446 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5598 times:

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 4):
I'ts really surprising that neither KL nor AV made a fuss about their 90th birthdays....

KLM Introduced a retrojet for its 90th birthday!


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Pkaviation



The 1/200 scale model of this beautiful bird rests comfortably on my shelf too!  

[Edited 2009-12-06 10:50:46]


ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4396 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5579 times:

You're right I don't know why I didn't associate the retrojet to their birthday...

User currently offlineColinatl From Colombia, joined Jul 2005, 40 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5566 times:

Congratulations to Avianca on 90 years of great service from Colombia to the world!

I can't wait for my next flight to and from and within Colombia at the end of this month.


User currently offlineDID747 From France, joined Apr 2005, 411 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5467 times:
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Sorry for late, back home now

happy birthday AVIANCA!!!

My favorite airline

DID747  Wink  Wink  Wink  Wink



Waimanalo
User currently offlineAirGabon From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 892 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5450 times:

Are they planning to fly back to Paris with their A330? Would it be CDG or ORY?

We miss Avianca in Paris!

Happy birthday to a great airline, I enjoyed all my flights with AV, in particular their direct B767 service CDG-BOG, few years ago...


User currently offline777jaah From Colombia, joined Jan 2006, 1403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5445 times:

Happy birthday AVIANCA!!



I know this is not 90 years old, but is an original Scadta ticket I proudly have:


Big version: Width: 972 Height: 638 File size: 381kb
Cover

Big version: Width: 929 Height: 641 File size: 333kb
Coupon



Cheers


777jaah



Next flights: AV BOG-ADZ-BOG, AV-UA BOG-IAD-ORD-IAD-BOG, BOG-FLL-BOG, LA BOG-MIA-BOG J
User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4619 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5433 times:



Quoting AirGabon (Reply 10):
Are they planning to fly back to Paris with their A330? Would it be CDG or ORY?

I think AV might resume flights to Frankfurt before Paris, based on the new relationship AV/TA in order to fly to any European Star Alliance base.
However, I´m not implying that either TA or AV might be joined in such group in the short-term.

Regards.



"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
User currently offlineSumma767 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2569 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5414 times:



Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 12):
I think AV might resume flights to Frankfurt before Paris, based on the new relationship AV/TA in order to fly to any European Star Alliance base.

For FRA, AV will need to wait for the 787s, as the A330s would probably need to leave some seats empty and no cargo. Perhaps AV757 could confirm.
As I understand it, BOG-BCN does no't allow for any or much cargo on the A330, but at least they can take a full load of passengers on the new configuration. FRA is another 500 nm or so farther.

BOG-LON on the other hand is the same distance as BOG-BCN. However, London will probably have to wait for the 787 too.

I do think that we will see A330s originally ordered for OceanAir going to Taca for ops to JFK, MIA and/or MAD.


User currently offlineAv757 From Colombia, joined Apr 2004, 662 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5315 times:

Avianca will operate on December 8 at 08:00Z its delivery flight of its fifth A330-243 registry N973AV msn 1073 from TOU-BOG, its arrival at Eldorado Intl. is scheduled for 19:00Z (14:00 local time).

Avianca will receive 2 more A330-243´s in 2011 for a total of 7 airplanes, none in 2010. So far management has said that there are no plans for new routes to Europe in the near future for AV or TA. Only that after January 18 2010 BCN will be operated totally on A330´s, the fifth A330 should debut with BOG/MIA/BOG/MIA AV006/007/008 on December 18.

As for BOG-FRA, Avianca´s A330-243 with RR Trent 772B engines can carry a maximum of 240 passengers and no cargo of the total 252, 30BC/222YC seating configuration of our fleet . It is an average flight of 10:40 hours. Taking off from BOG at 10:00PM local time (03:00Z) with 10°C the maximum weight is 209000 KGS compared to the maximum weight at sea level of 233000 KGS.

Regards:

AV757


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26021 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5287 times:



Quoting SXDFC (Reply 6):
Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 4):
I'ts really surprising that neither KL nor AV made a fuss about their 90th birthdays....

KLM Introduced a retrojet for its 90th birthday!

KLM also has an extensive website covering their 90th birthday events, including numerous videos and photos from their early days.
http://klmdereis.klm.nl/en/

Link to the videos here:
http://klmdereis.klm.nl/en/videos.html


User currently offlineSumma767 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2569 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5273 times:



Quoting Av757 (Reply 14):
Avianca will receive 2 more A330-243´s in 2011 for a total of 7 airplanes, none in 2010. So far management has said that there are no plans for new routes to Europe in the near future for AV or TA

Thank you very much for this information. Does this mean that the 3 A330s that had originally been pencilled for 2010 are deferred? Or might they still go to TA for flights to the US and/or Aerogal? I guess we shall have to wait for the formalities to be completed before such plans are confirmed.

Quoting Av757 (Reply 14):
Taking off from BOG at 10:00PM local time (03:00Z) with 10°C the maximum weight is 209000 KGS compared to the maximum weight at sea level of 233000 KGS.


Thank you! I thought it would be something of that sort.


User currently offlineDanimarroquin From Colombia, joined Jan 2005, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5232 times:

happy BD AV !!!!
sad for the airline that hasn't made any official statement , and neither a retrojet .  Angry " like if every airline has a 90th bd all the time "


User currently offlineOP3000 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 1786 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5210 times:

Here's an interesting article posted on the Aviacol forum (in Spanish) on how German Efromovich got involved with AV:

http://foros.aviacol.net/aviacion-co...olombia-f16/avianca-t345-2040.html
-Courtesy of juancho3066

'LAN ofrecía un dólar por Avianca, y llegó Efromovich', recuerda la banquera Violy McCausland

Mientras se buscaba afanosamente un inversionista para la aerolínea colombiana Avianca, en proceso de bancarrota, Germán Efromovich se acercó pero no le pusieron cuidado. Cuenta cómo se reunió por primera vez con el empresario tras andar 10 cuadras en un aguacero; por qué no le ponían cuidado, y cómo ya estaba disgustado y aburrido de tanto esperar. "Si te puedes ir corriendo al Banco Safra, y alcanzas a llegar, Celso Barison te presentará al señor Germán Efromovich que tanto quieres conocer".

Violy McCausland colgó el teléfono y salió corriendo, como le recomendó su esposo. Estaba en su oficina de la 53 con Quinta en Manhattan, y tenía que ir por toda la avenida hasta la 44, en un día sin taxis y con aguacero. Un rato después, estaba en el Banco Safra, frente a Efromovich, y se empezó a gestar el negocio que permitió que ayer Avianca cumpliera 90 años.

McCausland, banquera de inversión, propietaria de Violy and Co., había sido encargada por los accionistas de Avianca -de un lado la Federación Nacional de Cafeteros y, del otro, Valores Bavaria y Julio Mario Santo Domingo- de buscar un inversionista para la compañía, que en el 2003 estaba protegida de sus acreedores por el Capítulo 11 del Código de Bancarrotas de Estados Unidos, y negociaba con ellos una reorganización en la que era fundamental conseguir un nuevo dueño.

Tres interesados

Violy and Co. se había entrevistado con 42 dueños y presidentes de empresas aéreas. "Hay más, pero estaban quebradas", dice McCausland. De todas, quedaron interesadas LAN Chile, Taca, y TPG, de Estados Unidos. Pero en octubre, McCausland pensó que era mejor buscar más posibilidades. "Seguro mató a confianza, como aprendí de mi papá".

La banquera supo -a través de sus relaciones con brasileños, pues su marido es de Río-, de un empresario brasileño que se había acercado varias veces, y había mantenido reuniones muy preliminares. En la aerolínea creían que podría haber negocio con TPG, que antes había rescatado y transformado ni más ni menos que a Continental Airlines. Así las cosas, a Efromovich "nadie le había puesto atención, porque nadie sabía quién era".

McCausland le pidió a su esposo que le ayudara a encontrar a algún amigo de Efromovich. Un día que 'llovía a cántaros', llegó la llamada de su esposo que la sacó corriendo de su oficina. Al llegar al Banco Safra, Efromovich la vio, en mangas de camisa y lavada, y le dijo:

-Tú eres la primera banquera que llega sin una presentación... y sin nada.

-Yo no necesito una presentación para explicarle sobre Avianca. Porque yo me sé a Avianca 'de pe a pa'.

La empresaria barranquillera se tenía confianza en el tema. Su primer trabajo había sido en la aerolínea, en 1976, y 27 años después no veía cambios. "No había un espíritu de nada; todo en cámara lenta..." Y sin embargo estaba convencida de las posibilidades de la empresa "porque así no funcione, los colombianos seguimos viajando en Avianca, y sobre ese hecho se puede crecer".

Luego, según confiesa, enloqueció a Alejandro Santo Domingo y a Efromovich. A Santo Domingo, con la insistencia de: "conoce a Germán, conoce a Germán, conoce a Germán". Y a Efromovich con llamadas casi diarias: "por favor, no se me vaya", pues él creía que no querían que fuera el comprador. En diciembre del 2003, llegó la angustia a los accionistas. TPG, que era el único postor que lucía serio, se retiró. Quedaba Taca que tenía asesores muy lentos, y los Cueto de LAN Chile, "que eran más despaciosos todavía".

En el Comité de Acreedores del Capítulo 11 se creía que a los dueños no les interesaba conseguir un nuevo dueño. Creían que había un plan para dejar que la empresa se acabara y se fueran los Santo Domingo por su lado y los cafeteros por el suyo, sin que quedara quién pagara las deudas. Entonces, se les puso unas fechas límite a Taca y a LAN; McCausland invitó a Copa para que estudiara a Avianca y se aceptó que Efromovich participara.

De pronto, LAN se sentía muy seguro de que el negocio podía ser suyo, e hizo viajar a un grupo de Violy and Co. a Chile entre el 17 y el 23 de diciembre. Un mes después, enviaron su oferta: ofrecieron un dólar. Sí, un dólar por Avianca. Además, pedían que les dieran 50 millones en efectivo para capital de trabajo y que los venderores se quedaran con la deuda de las pensiones, cuenta.

"Una oferta maravillosa", dice ella. Pese a todo, fue un episodio clave. "Ahí, por fin, la gente empieza a ponerle cuidado a Germán, que ya estaba bravo y aburrido de esperar". El siguiente paso era que los acreedores lo conocieran y creyeran en él. McCausland pensaba que Efromovich no iba a contratar un asesor para que lo presentara, "porque el no gasta plata en esa vaina". Entonces fueron a Brasil para estudiar sus negocios con fuentes independientes, y tener la información para presentarlo.

Al tablero

Llegó, entonces, el día clave con los acreedores en la oficina de sus abogados, Greenberg Traurig. McCausland llegó con Efromovich y entró a un salón en el que había una mesa larguísima y, alrededor, 40 personas. "Todo el mundo hostil. Fue muy divertido".

Al relatar ese día, McCausland se esfuerza para recordar el nombre del gerente de los cafeteros, el hoy ministro de Defensa Gabriel Silva, pero recuerda claramente el del capitán Alberto Padilla, líder del sindicato de pilotos, tal vez por sus duras posiciones. "Padilla no estaba, pero estaba su abogado, que era peor".

La reunión arrancó. "¡Va bien, va bien!", le decía Silva, que estaba a su lado. Efectivamente, fue un éxito. "Germán los conquistó", y la reunión fue el punto de quiebre que permitió el acuerdo con los acreedores.

En marzo del 2004 se cerraría el negocio en el que Efromovich inyectó 64 millones de dólares a la empresa y se quedó con ella. Cinco años después, Avianca está a punto de ser mayoritario en una matriz que será dueña también de Taca, que sonó entre los posibles compradores de la compañía colombiana.

En la noche, tras anunciarse que Efromovich se quedaba con Avianca, McCausland lo vio en televisión diciendo que el proyecto no se hubiera hecho si no hubiera sido por su firma. "Eso demuestra el carácter de la persona. Quien sabe dar crédito al que lo merece es alguien muy seguro de sí mismo".

Ese es Efromovich, dice McCausland. Alguien muy seguro de sí mismo pero que no tiene vergüenza en pedir opiniones, en escuchar, su mayor virtud. Y, finalmente, actúa.


User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4065 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5190 times:
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Happy Birthday, AV! And many more to you!

Will AV have a retro jet for their 90th?

How's BOG-LAX-BOG doing?


User currently offlineSumma767 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2569 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5140 times:



Quoting OP3000 (Reply 18):
Here's an interesting article posted on the Aviacol forum (in Spanish) on how German Efromovich got involved with AV:

A nice story!
Just as a brief summary: It tells how AV's current owner was not given any attention when AV's owners were looking for a buyer on emergence from Chapter 11. Among the interested parties were LAN, Taca, TPG. When the latter two pulled out, Copa holdings was invited to take a look at Avianca and the brasilian entrepreneurs Germán Efromovich, was finally given a chance to voice a proposal. He had been kept waiting in the wings as "nobody" had heard of him. It was only the insistance of the colombian banker Violy McCausland that persuaded Alejandro Santodomingo to listen to Germán.

Lan also underestimated Efromovich and were at that point very confident of getting Avianca, and they made their offer: 1 dollar! Plus they wanted working cash and somebody else to take care of the pensions. In other words they wanted to screw AV.

The rest is history, but with a good ending. A traditional colombian airline had managed to come free from the hidious Santodomingo family, who had mismanaged it and taken Aces Airlines in the process, but avoided getting into the claws of Lan, and becoming a souless entity.


User currently offlineOP3000 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 1786 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (5 years 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5065 times:



Quoting Summa767 (Reply 20):
The rest is history, but with a good ending. A traditional colombian airline had managed to come free from the hidious Santodomingo family, who had mismanaged it and taken Aces Airlines in the process, but avoided getting into the claws of Lan, and becoming a souless entity.

Good point. I'll add to it that Efromovich did not look to run AV like Marsans ran AR, which would have been just as sad to see. The management at LA and CM proved then as they have subsequently that they are better airline operators than they are negotiators, which is why Efromovich has beaten them to good deals time and time again.


User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8513 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (5 years 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5030 times:
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Quoting OP3000 (Reply 21):
The management at LA and CM proved then as they have subsequently that they are better airline operators than they are negotiators, which is why Efromovich has beaten them to good deals time and time again.

MR. Efromovich has been good for Avianca but is he a better "Carl Icahn" type investor then an airline manager ? Lan and Copa are excellent airline managers. If Copa was interested in TACA would they be large enough for more then 50% ? I doubt it, it probably woldn't interest Copa to have a minority position in a holding company with TACA. In Lan's case TACA is not contigous to its airlines in Peru, Ecuador and Chile so may be they aren't that interested in Taca.

TACA nees to get control of AR to fill its map in the Southern cone of South America. LAN already flies Miami to EZE, so could EZE to MAD be far away ? IF LAN does AR's may be out of business in just a few years.


User currently offlineTBYO787 From Colombia, joined Feb 2008, 195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4968 times:

Long Live Avianca..!

User currently offlineOP3000 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 1786 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (5 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4947 times:



Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 22):
MR. Efromovich has been good for Avianca but is he a better "Carl Icahn" type investor then an airline manager ? Lan and Copa are excellent airline managers.

He's not a corporate raider like Carl Icahn who buys distressed companies, sells off their most valuable assets to generate cash and then is himself out of the business in a few years. Efromovich bought AV under distress, but has built it up and used it as a platform to try to create a regional structure a la AF or LH. Now granted, he has not proven he can manage operations like those guys or even like LA and CM yet, but that does not mean he's in it for the short term like Icahn or G&G of Marsans.

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 22):
I doubt it, it probably woldn't interest Copa to have a minority position in a holding company with TACA. In Lan's case TACA is not contigous to its airlines in Peru, Ecuador and Chile so may be they aren't that interested in Taca.

I don't think either LA or CM was really interested in TA like you mention, but I think even if they would have been their management would have had trouble making a deal happen. They would not have been willing to give the Kriete's the management control they sought, for example.

As the article pointed out LA was interested in AV and had a first crack at it but clearly misjudged the negotiation position they were in. To this day they're still interested in starting passengers in Colombia, but have not been able to do anything through acquisitions, even though through the years there have been other players in the market like AeroRepublica and Aires willing to sell. CM is not as trigger shy as LA, I just think they are smaller and have a hub-and-spoke model that has made it less necessary for them to buy domestic airlines in individual countries.

Back to Efromovich, it wasn't just AV and TA he has been able to acquire, but also Aerogal and VarigLog which IMO would have been interesting assets for others.


25 Jfk777 : German Efromovich is bulking up Avianca, if LAN comes with a nice enough price then who knows. But if LAN said, $500,000,000 USD, then I think he wou
26 OP3000 : If he sells for $500 million he would be a total idiot, which he's proven not to be. AV had sales around $2 billion last year, without including TA.
27 OB1504 : With the arrival of the fifth A330, will the A330 operate the route full-time, or is this only a temporary thing like back in May/June of this year?
28 777jaah : I think those 3 330s were slots deferred by other airlines and taken by AV, so the 2010 scheduled deliveries, were actually done in 2009. It seems is
29 Post contains links SJOtoLIR : ..Filter period.............Seats...........Passengers.........Load factor February 2009...........5632..................3202....................57%
30 LACA773 : Thanks for the information, SJOtoLIR! I apreicate it. I guess it could be worse, not bad considering the state of the economy here in California. I w
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