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BA To Sell Silver Executive For £495  
User currently offlineMockney From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 57 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 11804 times:

Just read this ;

http://airreview.110mb.com/News/Story/114.htm

We live in interesting times!

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User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 11642 times:

That is very interesting.

I'm already benefitting from the increased tier points in full economy but I'm going to be just short of silver again this year.

This offer hasn't been sent to me yet. It's a bit pricey. 350 pounds might be about right.


User currently offlineMockney From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 57 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 11497 times:

The increased tier points is a great policy, hopefully it's promoting loyalty amongst the premium passengers.

In related news, BA continue to oversell World Traveller and upgrade E.C. members. My flights for a Christmas/New Year break are still being sold in World Traveller, whilst everything else says that it's full!

Not that I mind, a transatlantic flight in October meant that a flight booked in WTP, upgraded to Club World with miles, saw me shuffled into First at the gate! Then from WTP to Club World at check in on the return.

What's everyone else's experience, is BA still upgrading a lot of people? EC members, silvers , blues and golds and indeed non-EC passengers, lets hear from you!


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17004 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 11182 times:



Quoting Mockney (Reply 2):
What's everyone else's experience, is BA still upgrading a lot of people? EC members, silvers , blues and golds and indeed non-EC passengers, lets hear from you!

Yeah, BA does actually upgrade a lot. For instance on my latest flight from LAX to LHR I was upgraded to WTP from WT. Didnt expect that at all because I really dont have a lot of miles in my account.



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User currently offlineVikingA346 From Sweden, joined Oct 2006, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 11019 times:



Quoting B747forever (Reply 3):
Yeah, BA does actually upgrade a lot. For instance on my latest flight from LAX to LHR I was upgraded to WTP from WT. Didnt expect that at all because I really dont have a lot of miles in my account.

Just to clarify on the upgrading procedures, BA does not upgrade unless it operationally has to. Often times, it will oversell economy and occasionally oversell it so bad that it'll have to upg Y-J. The fact that you have a silver/gold card increases chances of getting an upg in an oversell situation, but you CANNOT and WILL NOT be upgraded simply because of the fact, there HAS to be an oversell situation (unless of course you're best friends with the station manager)......



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User currently offlineMutu From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 530 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10899 times:

And according to the article the opportunity to buy a silver card is available only to existing silver card holders who are short of points to requalify for silver. So quite a limited but focussed offer

User currently offlineBastew From Australia, joined Sep 2006, 1023 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 10824 times:

Due to all the economic stuff going on BA are having to upgrade as our aircraft are fairly 'top heavy' in terms of the number of premium seats. For example the 'High J' jumbo's are configured 14F/70J/36W/177 or 185M. They are finding it difficult finding people prepared to stump up the money to fill F/J/W so are having to oversell economy and then fill up the big seats.

Not that much upgrading happens 'at the gate' though.

Passengers are offered the option to pay to upgrade at various stages: at the end of their initial booking, when checking in online and sometimes at the airport. Depending how much economy is oversold and how many big seats they have available determines how much of a bargain these upgrades are.

Then of course there are various promotions for exec card holders to use miles to upgrade.

And finally staff using their annual confirmed free travel concession which allows a nil fare booking in economy which is upgradeable to Club subject to availability.


User currently offlineSam1987 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 946 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 10762 times:



Quoting Mockney (Reply 2):
What's everyone else's experience, is BA still upgrading a lot of people? EC members, silvers , blues and golds and indeed non-EC passengers, lets hear from you!

I was upgraded from Traveller to Traveller Plus on a recent flight from SIN to SYD - and I only have blue exec club card.



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User currently offlineReadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3051 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 10731 times:

It's a careful line to tread.
Loyal customer see that others can buy their way in, why bother to be loyal.
Thin ice ahead.



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User currently offlineBAStew From Australia, joined Sep 2006, 1023 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 10697 times:



Quoting Readytotaxi (Reply 8):
It's a careful line to tread.
Loyal customer see that others can buy their way in, why bother to be loyal.
Thin ice ahead.

I agree.

The J/F airport lounges are about to become a lot more busy!


User currently offlineReadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3051 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 10660 times:



Quoting BAStew (Reply 9):

I was sure you would have been the first to respond.  Big grin



you don't get a second chance to make a first impression!
User currently offlineAirNz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 10586 times:



Quoting Readytotaxi (Reply 8):
Loyal customer see that others can buy their way in, why bother to be loyal.

Why should such be an issue? If it is, then the said 'loyalty' is nothing but an ego thing.


User currently offlineReadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3051 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 10556 times:

I was taught that Loyalty was worked for,not bought, like friends!


you don't get a second chance to make a first impression!
User currently offlineLimaNiner From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 399 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 10436 times:



Quoting Readytotaxi (Reply 8):
Loyal customer see that others can buy their way in, why bother to be loyal.

Actually, only current Silver members can "buy in", i.e., they can pay to *RE*qualify. It's kind of like a "mileage run" without having to actually fly the miles.

Quite a clever move on BA's part, I think.


User currently offlineFlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2048 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 10379 times:



Quoting Readytotaxi (Reply 8):
It's a careful line to tread.
Loyal customer see that others can buy their way in, why bother to be loyal.
Thin ice ahead.

Not really. As someone has already pointed out, you have to be Silver already and this offer to purchase is a way of retaining Silver if you don't have enough points to retain it. It's a way of BA trying to retain that loyalty in difficult times - if someone drops to Blue, they might feel less inclined to be loyal to BA (and oneworld airlines). It's a targetted offer, and is not designed to allow those with a spare £500 to buy their way into SIlver membership.



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User currently offlineScipio From Belgium, joined Oct 2007, 815 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 10354 times:

My Lufthansa Miles and More Gold card is about to expire, and LH offered me to renew it for a year for €2,000.

User currently offlineVHTJE From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 361 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 10324 times:
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How is this different to the Qantas Club?

As far as I can see, buying Qantas Club membership is equivalent to acheiving gold level Qantas Frequent Flyer (i.e. same level as Silver in BA's Executive Club). About the only thing you don't get as a QC member that I can see is that you don't get the bonus points awarded to gold Frequent Flyers.

Selling QC memberships seems to work okay for QF - meaning it does not make the pointy end of the plane suddenly overly heavy (although in my experience getting a J award seat between SYD and LHR is hard).

I don't see why wouldn't work for BA.


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4601 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 10123 times:



Quoting VHTJE (Reply 16):
As far as I can see, buying Qantas Club membership is equivalent to acheiving gold level Qantas Frequent Flyer (i.e. same level as Silver in BA's Executive Club). About the only thing you don't get as a QC member that I can see is that you don't get the bonus points awarded to gold Frequent Flyers.

It's not equivalent to gold level on Qantas / silver on BA...

Qantas Club only allows you to access Qantas and British Airways lounges when flying Qantas or British Airways.

Qantas gold / BA silver allows you to access all the oneworld lounges when flying in any class on any of the oneworld airlines - so there is a much bigger advantage. Also Qantas gold gives you 50% points bonus as well, which you mentioned.

So the actual frequent flyers get a better deal. However Qantas Club is perfect if you're living in Australia and just travel Economy Class domestically...  Smile



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineVHTJE From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 361 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9967 times:
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Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 17):
Qantas Club only allows you to access Qantas and British Airways lounges when flying Qantas or British Airways.

Qantas gold / BA silver allows you to access all the oneworld lounges when flying in any class on any of the oneworld airlines - so there is a much bigger advantage. Also Qantas gold gives you 50% points bonus as well, which you mentioned.

Hmmm actually I think you are right; my bad. But then again I've never been denied entry to any OW lounge with a QC card, even when travelling Y & not ticketed by QF. Must be my winning smile (or pushy attitude  Wink )


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