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User currently offlineFXMax From United Arab Emirates, joined Apr 2009, 7 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 17689 times:

33 unhurt after plane overshoots runway at CRJ - George, South Africa

SA "Airlink has confirmed that its flight SA8625 operating from Cape Town to George was involved in "an incident" on landing at George Airport on Monday morning, but that 30 passengers and three crew are unhurt."

More details:
http://www.news24.com/Content/SouthA...hurt_after_plane_overshoots_runway

Also see http://www.news24.com/Content for current front page image

Max

[Edited 2009-12-07 04:20:38]

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User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2245 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 17630 times:



Quoting FXMax (Thread starter):
33 unhurt after plane overshoots runway at CRJ - George, South Africa

Actually an Embraer..




Kafa, čaj, šraf?
User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2245 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 17581 times:

This is what, 3rd incident in a short while for Airlink?

Something must be terribly wrong at that airline.... beginning of the end perhaps, can't see pax rebuilding their safety confidence with them anytime soon... another Nationwide in the making by the looks of it...  Sad

And the plane... that looks like a write-off to me, bent fuselage, badly damaged wings, landing gears gone and the front is ... simply not there anymore...



Kafa, čaj, šraf?
User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2245 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 17554 times:

Some more images... and a correction from a PPrune poster - 4th incident for Airlink in the last few months...






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User currently offlineFerengi80 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 695 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 17292 times:
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I'm just looking at the damage to the nose cone, and the probably damage to the undercarriage assemblies. Do you think this is repairable, or is the aircraft going to be written off as a result of this incident?

Glad to hear everyone got out.



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User currently offlineRFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 16981 times:



Quoting Ferengi80 (Reply 4):
Do you think this is repairable, or is the aircraft going to be written off as a result of this incident?

I think they use the 135 not the 145. If so, there are several for sale/ lease real cheap right now with American Eagle and ExpressJet trying to take that type out of their inventory.

Might make a difference in the result.


User currently offlineShankly From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 1547 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 16898 times:

Flew the 8625 last year and the weather can change in an instant up there in George, as it did on our flight.

From the pics it looks like a relatively low speed over-run, the fence and the embankment causing much of the damage

My experiences of SAA Airlink have always been very good; in fact they are my preferred choice when flying internally within SA. Good to see crew and pax safe.



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User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4409 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 16862 times:

It may be more economical to use this for spare parts and to take another one that is for sales...

Glad nobody hurt!


User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4491 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 15400 times:



Quoting Ferengi80 (Reply 4):
I'm just looking at the damage to the nose cone, and the probably damage to the undercarriage assemblies. Do you think this is repairable, or is the aircraft going to be written off as a result of this incident?

Well, just about everything is technically repairable. What strikes me as the big problem is that not only do you have a crumpled nose, the whole aft of the aircraft is bent up a few degrees. I think this will be a writeoff.

There are plenty of E135's for sale though, so if they need the capacity I'm sure they can find it.



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User currently offlineCchan From New Zealand, joined May 2003, 1763 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 14384 times:



Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 8):
There are plenty of E135's for sale though, so if they need the capacity I'm sure they can find it.

What a shame just 6 months ahead of the World Cup, when they will need the capacity. What about the other 3 aircrafts involved in the previous accidents/incidents, were they written off?


User currently offlineJasondn From South Africa, joined Nov 2007, 207 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 14384 times:

Did anyone get pictures of the PLZ incident?

User currently offlineRazza From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 13887 times:

Not pretty at all...

Quoting JoKeR (Reply 2):
Something must be terribly wrong at that airline.... beginning of the end perhaps, can't see pax rebuilding their safety confidence with them anytime soon... another Nationwide in the making by the looks of it...  

I guess aquaplaning could happen to any aircraft, and I think it's just very unlucky that it actually happened to Airlink... Having said that, this can't be good press!!

Good to see everyone walking away from it!

Regards,


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 13706 times:

Quoting Ferengi80 (Reply 4):
Do you think this is repairable, or is the aircraft going to be written off as a result of this incident?

It's a write off......It will cost too much to fix it.

Quoting JoKeR (Reply 1):
Quoting FXMax (Thread starter):
33 unhurt after plane overshoots runway at CRJ - George, South Africa

Actually an Embraer..

Actually he is somewhat correct.. the code for the airport is GRJ.... not CRJ

[Edited 2009-12-07 11:38:29]


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20334 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 13465 times:



Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 8):

Well, just about everything is technically repairable. What strikes me as the big problem is that not only do you have a crumpled nose, the whole aft of the aircraft is bent up a few degrees. I think this will be a writeoff.

Yeah, I was wondering if it was bent or that was just part of the tail, but I agree, it's bent.

You can repair anything, but this won't be worth it.


User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10816 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 11322 times:

The fuselage looks like a banana. I doubt this jet will fly again.

User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8463 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7288 times:
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Quoting JoKeR (Reply 1):
Actually an Embraer..

He meant GRJ

Quoting Shankly (Reply 6):
SAA Airlink

Airlink has nothing to do with SAA, let's not tarnish an airline that is not involved.



After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2245 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days ago) and read 6986 times:



Quoting Andz (Reply 15):
Airlink has nothing to do with SAA,

Not entirely true, although SA Airlink is an independent airline, it is related to SAA through a broad alliance, not merely by operating flights under "SA" flight numbers; it also participates in Voyager and has a very similar corporate "look and feel" to the flag carrier, so this incident unfortunately affects far more than SA Airlink itself...

Quoting Andz (Reply 15):
let's not tarnish an airline that is not involved.

Agree, in a way reminds me of the 2008 Aeroflot Nord and Aeroflot split after the initial carrier's tragic 735 accident.



Kafa, čaj, šraf?
User currently offlineCchan From New Zealand, joined May 2003, 1763 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6126 times:

Well, this will be interesting:

http://www.timeslive.co.za/news/article224799.ece


User currently offlineShankly From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 1547 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5683 times:



Quoting Andz (Reply 15):
Airlink has nothing to do with SAA, let's not tarnish an airline that is not involved

1. I was not tarnishing SAA Airlink. I stated they are and indeed remain, my internal airline of choice within SA
2. Never actually paid for an Airlink flight...always used my SAA Voyager miles. Airlink is also very visibly associated with SAA from the livery, flight service, check-in areas, website, Voyager crossover, so from a customer perception, they are very much in the SAA family.



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User currently offlineCchan From New Zealand, joined May 2003, 1763 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5395 times:



Quoting Shankly (Reply 18):
I was not tarnishing SAA Airlink

The name of this company was SA Airlink (now just Airlink), not SAA Airlink. Maybe that will help those who can't tell the difference between the 2 airlines.

Quoting Shankly (Reply 18):
Airlink is also very visibly associated with SAA from the livery, flight service, check-in areas, website, Voyager crossover, so from a customer perception, they are very much in the SAA family.

Airlink, South African Airways (SAA) and South African Express (SAX) are separate companies although they all market their flights using the SA code, and they are partner airlines in the Voyager programme. These 3 airlines have separate check-in counters at the airports I have visited, their liveries are different, although based on a similar design. They have separate websites, but they all use the flight search engine provided by SAA, and it seems SAA also handle the ticketing for the other two. If one considers Airlink and SAX as part of the SAA family, then one needs to put Comair and Kulula.com as part of the British Airways family too.


User currently offlineShankly From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 1547 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5057 times:



Quoting Cchan (Reply 19):
If one considers Airlink and SAX as part of the SAA family, then one needs to put Comair and Kulula.com as part of the British Airways family too

Well if I was an average Joe (not a airliners.net nerd) I would probably figure, as I walked up the front steps of this 737, that Comair had something to do with BA:


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Until recently the font on Airlink was also very similar to a certain other big african airline. And as for those tails!


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Legalities aside, this is designed to make the customer think its the same lot...and it works.



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User currently offlineCchan From New Zealand, joined May 2003, 1763 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4946 times:



Quoting Shankly (Reply 20):
this is designed to make the customer think its the same lot...and it works

Agree, especially in the Comair case. They trade under the BA franchise, and I have no idea why Comair don't want to trade under their own brand, and have to "pretend" to be BA.

Quoting Shankly (Reply 20):
Well if I was an average Joe (not a airliners.net nerd) I would probably figure, as I walked up the front steps of this 737, that Comair had something to do with BA

Most of their customers probably never heard of Comair, they only know they are flying with BA.

Quoting Shankly (Reply 20):
Until recently the font on Airlink was also very similar to a certain other big african airline. And as for those tails!

At the time when Airlink was branded as SA Airlink, they had a strategic alliance with SAA.

On another note, it seems SAX has recently done something to try to establish their own brand identity: check their new website http://www.flyexpress.aero


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8463 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 week 4 days ago) and read 4722 times:
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Former SAA Chief Training Captain and local flying legend Scully Levin has been appointed by Airlink to review their training and safety procedures.


After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
User currently offlineShankly From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 1547 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4591 times:



Quoting Cchan (Reply 21):
On another note, it seems SAX has recently done something to try to establish their own brand identity: check their new website http://www.flyexpress.aero

Thanks for the link Cchan. Back in CPT in 19 days so can't wait!



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