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A Little Dutch Treat In LAS Today  
User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1522 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 8682 times:

KL601 AMS-LAX diverted to LAS today for fuel. Not often we get a Dutch Treat
here in the desert.


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User currently offlineAM001 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 221 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 8473 times:
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Very very cool sight...

A B747?

But as it's parked on the A gates on Terminal 1 (domestic) and not on T2 (international), and connected to a jetway...

I guess no one is allowed on/off the plane.



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User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1522 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 8436 times:



Quoting AM001 (Reply 1):
Very very cool sight...

A B747?

But as it's parked on the A gates on Terminal 1 (domestic) and not on T2 (international), and connected to a jetway...

I guess no one is allowed on/off the plane.

Yes, it is a B744. As the plane is still an International flight, that is correct,
nobody on/off, otherwise they would have to offload the whole thing and clear
customs. Just picking up some fuel. Will probably not be on the ground more
much more than an hour.



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User currently offlineDALCA From Netherlands, joined Aug 2006, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 8423 times:

Wow, I'm pretty suprised here. Did the flight run into strong headwinds that it needs extra fuel or did somethign happen that makes it do a fuel stop.

Does LAS get more flights out of Europe stopping to top up on fuel?



Zanair flight, please hold on finals as we have to clear rhino's off the runway. Next flight KUL-FRA-AMS Flown in A319,A
User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1452 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 8367 times:

In July 2004, I had a similar experience on an LH 340-300 enroute MUC-LAX. The captain said due to stronger than expected headwinds, we were running out of fuel.. He also added that we had just about enough to make in to LAX but he did not want to take any chances...

We were on our short finals when we pulled up again and performed a go around due to a small plane on the runway... It was such a roller coaster ride.. Almost half the plane puked  Smile

We were on the ground for almost 2 hours. I was supposed to have a connecting flight on WN and normally had 3 hours which would normally be enough (two seperate tickets naturally) but of course missed my flight. WN was kind enough to book me on the next available flight free of charge...They would never do that in Europe on a low cost airline...

The funny thing is, my final destination was Las Vegas  Smile



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User currently offlineMcCarranMGR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 8306 times:



Quoting GARUDAROD (Reply 2):
Just picking up some fuel. Will probably not be on the ground more
much more than an hour.

Yes she has been on the ground for just about 70 minutes and is currently taxing for departure to LAX. She was not parked at T-2 (international terminal) due to lack of space. The flight went to A-14.

Quoting DALCA (Reply 3):
Does LAS get more flights out of Europe stopping to top up on fuel?

No not very often.

Here are a couple of pics taken from cell phone sorry for the quality.

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User currently offlineDALCA From Netherlands, joined Aug 2006, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 8266 times:



Quoting McCarranMGR (Reply 5):
Here are a couple of pics taken from cell phone sorry for the quality.

Nice pics, I bet you'd like to the KLM planes land for often in LAS!

Was the captain/first officer allowed off the plane to do the paperwork and stuff?



Zanair flight, please hold on finals as we have to clear rhino's off the runway. Next flight KUL-FRA-AMS Flown in A319,A
User currently offlineMcCarranMGR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 8252 times:



Quoting DALCA (Reply 6):
I bet you'd like to the KLM planes land for often in LAS!

Yes we would like to consider this a "proving run".  Wink

To my knowledge nobody got off. NWA/Delta agents boarded to aircraft to deliver paperwork etc.


User currently offline76er From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 568 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 8049 times:



Quoting DALCA (Reply 6):
Was the captain/first officer allowed off the plane to do the paperwork and stuff?

Unless there was a DL/NW engineer around authorized to sign the preflight release at least one pilot should have been allowed to perform a walkaround and monitor the fuelling process. Wtihout the mandatory preflight inspection the plane won't fly.


User currently offlineKLASM83 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 632 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 8028 times:

Thanks for the pictures, McCarranMGR!

It's been a looooong time since a 747 has been at the A Gates.



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User currently offlineLASoctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 2380 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 7684 times:

Why does this ALWAYS happen on the days I don't go!? Damn...

Quoting KLASM83 (Reply 9):
It's been a looooong time since a 747 has been at the A Gates.

Hell, I don't even remember the '47s at the A Gates! lol



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User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1712 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6180 times:

What is normally the biggest aircraft you see in LAS at the A-gates?

Are there any intercontinental services to LAS from Europe?

Anyway, it is always fun when a rare aircraft pops up out of the blue and visits your home airport. We in AMS are currently being spoiled with an Airbus 340-300 of Air Tahiti Nui operating for PY on the AMS-PBM runs. I can tell you I was second to shocked when I saw her the first day at AMS.
These events keeps the hobby special I suppose!



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User currently offlineSevernaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1427 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5896 times:



Quoting DALCE (Reply 11):
Are there any intercontinental services to LAS from Europe?

Yup
BA to LHR (772)
DE to FRA (763)
KE to ICN (3/week 772 ICN-LAS-LAX-ICN)
PL to MNL (5/week A343 via YVR)
VS to LGW (747)
SE to CDG (seasonal?)
MT to MAN. (1/week?)



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User currently offlineMcCarranMGR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5339 times:



Quoting DALCE (Reply 11):
What is normally the biggest aircraft you see in LAS at the A-gates?

Since the A gates are domestic and currently only used by US the biggest thing in there is an A-321 or 752. All non-precleared international goes to T-2. We do have several 744,340,330,772,773 engineered gates over the entire airport though for not only occasional diverts like this but former service, and route upgrades that tend to be happening more often than not.


We currently have the above listed routes just the frequencies described are off. XL airways CDG-LAS-CDG is expected to start in May. KE will also move back to a 744 in early spring.


User currently offlineUALDUDE From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 170 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4979 times:

I was flying(working) from SLC-DEN yesterday and I heard them on Salt Lake Center talking about diverting to LAS. I wish I was home yesterday. It looks like it was cloudy anyway though.

User currently offlineLrockeagle From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4652 times:



Quoting 76er (Reply 8):
Unless there was a DL/NW engineer around authorized to sign the preflight release at least one pilot should have been allowed to perform a walkaround and monitor the fuelling process. Wtihout the mandatory preflight inspection the plane won't fly.

I'm no airline pilot, but I won't fly it unless I've kicked the tires, checked oil and fuel and inspected the control-surface travel myself! My buddies may have already done it, but I'm doing it again  Wink


User currently offlineVarigB707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4511 times:



Quoting McCarranMGR (Reply 5):

Here are a couple of pics taken from cell phone sorry for the quality.

Cool pics. Say, are there any guidelines about picture taking within the ramp area?


User currently offlineMcCarranMGR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4352 times:



Quoting VarigB707 (Reply 16):
Cool pics. Say, are there any guidelines about picture taking within the ramp area?

No there aren't any specific regs about taking pictures. Lets just say if you have the credentials to be on the ramp in that area then you can take pictures from the ramp no questions asked.


User currently offlineVarigb707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4162 times:



Quoting McCarranMGR (Reply 17):

No there aren't any specific regs about taking pictures. Lets just say if you have the credentials to be on the ramp in that area then you can take pictures from the ramp no questions asked.

cool beans... in that case, send us some more!


User currently offlineVegasplanes From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 778 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2722 times:

I was wondering what was going on, I saw KLM coming in to land while I was home at lunch, pretty good view of 25 arrivals and 7 departures from where I live in the valley.

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