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Which Cities Will See 787 Service?  
User currently offlineLaxboeingman From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 538 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 13563 times:

Does anyone have an idea, or know, what cities the 787 will service. I think that the following will be serviced by the beautiful beast:

LAX
SYD
JFK
HKG
CDG
LHR
NRT
AKL
ATL
EWR


Does anyone know any other info? All would be admired.

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User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3658 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 13547 times:

IAH
DFW
ORD
IAD
YYZ
YVR
YUL
AMS
FRA
MUC
WAW
ICN
HND
KIX
PEK
SIN
KUL
SEA
DTW



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User currently offlinePhishphan70 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 13505 times:

kind of a broad topic and list.... do you mean which airports will see the most service? because i believe with over 1000 of these things flying around eventually, the list is going to be fairly lengthy! I hope SFO is a favorite for them though!!!!!

User currently offlineSLCPilot From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 579 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 13466 times:

Assuming I read the original poster's messege correctly, let's consider the question in a much easier format.....

What airports that have 767 OR A-330 service will NOT see 787 service?

That's a much, much, much shorter list! ! !!

Cheers!

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User currently offlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 13413 times:

Since AA has order the 787, I would add he following.

MIA
DUB (depending on how they rotate the 763's)
JNB (if the MIA-JNB predictions come true)
MAD
FCO
GIG
EZE
SCL



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32603 posts, RR: 72
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 13403 times:

Here's 30:

http://www.airports.org/cda/aci_comm...?zn=aci&cp=1-5-212-218-222_666_2__



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32603 posts, RR: 72
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 13385 times:



Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 4):
Since AA has order the 787, I would add he following.

MIA
DUB (depending on how they rotate the 763's)
JNB (if the MIA-JNB predictions come true)
MAD
FCO
GIG
EZE
SCL

Although an official decision has not been made, is my understanding that the 787s will be 3-class, at least initially.

So strike out FCO and DUB.



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User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7119 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 13365 times:

It is a plane built for a all types of markets many airports will be seeing this plane. This plane is not like the A380 there is no special conversion or anything. Airports that get 767 and A330 service are bound to see the 787. Most hubs will see it. Just about any large international airport will see them along with a few smaller ones.


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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1988 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 13297 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5):
Here's 30:

Those are the 30 busiest airports in the world by total emplanements. Since those are mostly superhubs dominated by one carrier, I don't think they will necessarily be 787 cities if the carrier dominating the airport isn't a 787 customer. LAS and MCO are two that don't seem likely.

I think BOS is going to be a big one with NRT, DXB, PEK, and maybe even HKG getting service.



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User currently offlineAussie747 From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 13295 times:

As they would all be based out of the hub citeis from the airlines that will use them you could well include the following.

SYD , BNE , MEL - QF and/or JQ
MOW - SU
MEX - AM
DUS - AB
YVR, YTO - AC
PEK, SHA - CA
DEL , BOM - AI
MAD - UX
AKL - NZ
POM - PX
NAN - FJ
SEZ - HM
LOS - W3
TEL - IZ
BOG - AV
BAK - J2
DAK - BG
LON - BA
PEK , CAN - CZ
SHA - MU
EWR , CLE - CO
AUH - EY
ADD - ET
BAH - GF
HAK , PEK - HU
KEF - FI
TYO - JL
BOM - 9W
NBO - KQ
SEL - KE
SCL - LA
CMN - AT
AMM - RJ
SHA - FM
DOH - QR
DTT , MEM , MSP - NW
BHX, DUB , LON , MAN - ZB
WAW - LO
SCL - LA
SEL - KE

Pardon me if I have forgotton any airlines, this is all I could remember. Of course there are many cities that all these airlines will fly to for which I have not mentioned as airlines have not specified where they will fly to.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32603 posts, RR: 72
Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 13230 times:

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 8):
Those are the 30 busiest airports in the world by total emplanements. Since those are mostly superhubs dominated by one carrier, I don't think they will necessarily be 787 cities if the carrier dominating the airport isn't a 787 customer. LAS and MCO are two that don't seem likely.

Virgin Atlantic will fly 787s to MCO; perfect plane for Korean Air to LAS or for JAL to re-enter LAS.

The thirty busiest airports in the world are not only megahubs, but also have some of the largest variety of airlines serving them, sans some of the U.S. hubs and Haneda. It is hard to imagine any of them not getting 787 service except for Charlotte and Phoenix.

[Edited 2009-12-14 21:36:12]


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User currently offlinePlaneAdmirer From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 560 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 13152 times:

Come on ANA bring her to DEN - though I think there will be restrictions for westbound.

User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1988 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 12992 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 10):
The thirty busiest airports in the world are not only megahubs, but also have some of the largest variety of airlines serving them, sans some of the U.S. hubs and Haneda. It is hard to imagine any of them not getting 787 service except for Charlotte and Phoenix.

That's true. But those airlines are usually in the alliance that the dominant carrier is in. For example, look at ATL. AC, BA, and LH are the only international airlines not in Skyteam. DL is getting the 787, so obviously ATL isn't an airport that fits the bill. But if the only carriers in the alliance that are 787 customers already serve ATL from hubs in places better served by another plane (which in real life isn't true for ATL), then that airport wouldn't see the 787. That's the point I'm making. I doubt that any of them are like that, but it's possible. And a market like ATL would be tough to crack by a non-Skyteam airline.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 10):
Virgin Atlantic will fly 787s to MCO; perfect plane for Korean Air to LAS or for JAL to re-enter LAS.

I should've thought of that. Some routes are better with the 787.



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User currently offlineN104UA From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 902 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 12903 times:

LHR
DEN
SYD
LAX
SFO
SEA
ORD
IAD
JFK
ATL
EWR
MSP
DTW
PHX
NRT
KIX
PEK
HKG
MEL
PER
DEL
BKK
HKT
IAH
DFW
MIA
FRA
MUC
DUS
XFW
CDG
ORY
MOW
LAS
MAN
DUB
JNB
CPT
CAI
JED
KWI
DXB
AUH
PVG
MCO
MAD
AMS
BRU
RDU
BOS
BDL
YYZ
YUL
YYC
YVR
RIO
EZE
MEX
LOS
FCO
ZRH
GVA
MEM

The nice thing with the 787 is that the possibilities are unlimited because it is made to be on routes where a giant a/c is not needed, but the demand is there i.e. DEN-NRT, SEA-HKG



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User currently offlineRonaldo747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12675 times:

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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24906 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12663 times:

UK;
BA: LHR,LGW (Maybe)
TOM: LGW,MAN,BHX,EMA,BRS,NCL,GLA,BFS
MON:MAN,LGW,BHX
VS: LHR,LGW,MAN,GLA (maybe)
GSM: GLA,MAN,LGW



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User currently offlineFerengi80 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 687 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12637 times:
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Quoting Aussie747 (Reply 9):
MAN - ZB

Will definitely be MAN, but TOM will be the first airline to be based there, they are the UK launch operator for the 787.



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User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2911 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 12280 times:

Perhaps a better thread would be the potential 787 routes. I think any city with a sizable amount of traffic could potentially see the 787.

User currently offlineJakeOrion From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1253 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 12254 times:

Does anyone else think SAN will see any 787s? Also, if it does see service here, what will be the payload restrictions to say, SAN - LHR or SAN - FRA?


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User currently offlineMIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1343 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 12217 times:

I could easily see the following routes:

MIA-NRT (JAL or AA)
MIA-ICN (Korean has expressed interest)
MIA-TLV (did El Al order? this would be a good plane for this route)
MIA-JNB/CPT (AA)
MIA-DXB (EK has expressed interest, I wonder if AA would take the risk?)
SJU-LGW (VS - better size aircraft for this route; maybe the return of BA?)
RDU-LHR (remove 763ER for domestic runs and replace with 787; doubt this route will see 777 again)
MEX-LHR/LGW (AM)
MEX-MAD (AM)
MEX-EZE (AM)
MEX-BCN (perhaps MAD Tag On? - AM)



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User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6090 posts, RR: 24
Reply 20, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 12182 times:

Tuely one of the broadest topic that could have been thought up.

Quoting Phishphan70 (Reply 2):

United Airlines just order the 787. I'm think we may just see a few of them here in San Francisco.  Smile



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User currently offlineMainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2096 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 12120 times:

With the greatest respect, what a thoroughly bizarre thread. My guess would be that the 787 will fly to all airports currently served by 747, 777, 767, 757, Airbus 300, 310, 330, 340 and 380. And probably a few more too!

User currently offlineMogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 12015 times:

At its ridiculously CASM when filled at 9-abreast and maybe 30" pitch by the charters, the 787 will probably be minting money for Thompson and Monarch when you fit like 400 seats in this dinky little thing.

does anyone know if a 9-abreast 787-8 can beat the 8-abreast 333 in CASM? 9-abreast on the 333 is waaay crazy even for Ryanair standards.

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 15):
UK;
BA: LHR,LGW (Maybe)
TOM: LGW,MAN,BHX,EMA,BRS,NCL,GLA,BFS
MON:MAN,LGW,BHX
VS: LHR,LGW,MAN,GLA (maybe)
GSM: GLA,MAN,LGW



User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2911 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 12015 times:



Quoting JakeOrion (Reply 18):
oes anyone else think SAN will see any 787s?

Yes. The 787 is a perfect fit to maximize overseas flights from San Diego. London and Tokyo would be my guess as the first 787 routes out of San Diego.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10882 posts, RR: 37
Reply 24, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 12000 times:

ANA will most probably fly them to Honolulu at some time or other.  airplane   airplane 


There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
25 Migajos : LOT Polish will definately use them replacing 767's on routes: WAW-ORD, WAW-JFK, WAW-EWR, WAW-YYZ and KRK-ORD (also some more US services from KRK and
26 Viscount724 : There is no official 787 order from AA yet. It's only an "intent to purchase". A firm order depends on agreement with their pilots.
27 AADC10 : Perhaps a better question is which cities will see 787 service first? For the first deliveries, they will almost certainly be placed on the carrier's
28 Railker : YYJ might just start seeing it too, if Air Canada (or other airlines) decide to start flying her in. If they do, the VAA just recently repainted all t
29 SeaBosDca : Given their shorter range, I would expect the first NH 787s to be used regionally, maybe on high-profile flights like NRT-HKG, NRT-ICN, or NRT-PVG.
30 MAH4546 : MIA-TLV/DXB don't need the 787, they can take the 777. El Al did order 787s, but they were canned. AM already flies MEX-BCN.
31 MIASkies : As far as capacity, would the 787 be more profitable then say a 777 on these routes? just wondering. Too bad El Al canned the 787 order. Gotcha. But
32 Nclmedic : In the UK, surely we'll see CO dropping these birds into BRS, MAN, GLA, EDI....while obviously the big hubs are going to see considerable service from
33 MadameConcorde : I thought I heard Mr ANA during the talk he gave with the first 787 flight saying that the first commercial flight was going to be "intra-Japan"? I a
34 SANMAN66 : The 767's the airlines are using on those routes can be freed up to serve routes such as SAN on Int'l routes until the airlines start deploying the 7
35 Packcheer : I have a question...... To all We all know the numbers that Boeing is putting out for the 787. How do we (as a group with alot of knowlege among membe
36 Gkirk : 9 abreast on A330s is actually rather common
37 Anshuk : AI would definitely operate theirs out of BOM as well!
38 Phatty3374 : What routes from JFK are most likely with the 787??
39 Byrdluvs747 : About a month ago, I was fortunate to be able to talk to a group of about 8 AA pilots during a shuttle drive to a hotel in ORD. I asked them how they
40 Migajos : WAW will be first 787 service by European airline (LO)
41 ThegreatRDU : I suppose so...
42 SeaBosDca : In terms of passenger capacity, you can treat a 787-8 as almost identical to an A330-200. It's also about the size of a 764, and bigger than a 763 by
43 PSA146 : It would be great to see the 787 in SAN, It would be awesome to see it on approach to 27R on a clear day! I agree with BigGSFO that the most likely d
44 RP TPA : It would probably be prudent to run a new plane on domestic, or short to medium haul intl flights. If there are any kinks that need to be worked out,
45 N62NA : Who would fly these routes out of BOS?
46 Laxboeingman : I think that AA might. Also, the question was intended to be what airports would get the 787 the most. I am sorry the confusion. GO BOEING!!!!!! and G
47 ER757 : As someone else mentioned, the order didn't go through EK went A350, not 787
48 MAH4546 : Not neccesarily. MIA-TLV is dense and can handle a 777, even a 744 during peak. MIA-DXB will be a very dense market based on traffic flow beyond to S
49 AZNCSA4QF744ER : SFO will be seeing the B787, along with the nasty A350XWB.... (sorry I'm a Boeing fan)
50 Vietcolin : Has anyone mentioned Vietnam Airlines is 787 launch customer SGN HAN DAD are favorite 787 domestic destinations
51 STT757 : This information is a couple years old, but in various interviews CO management have mentioned some of the potential routes they have in mind for thei
52 Centrair : NH had looked at BOS a long time ago but pulled back due to aircraft size There was a Chinese carrier that had considered BOS but then switched to DT
53 Carpethead : People are forgeting the most obvious airport - Tokyo Haneda (HND). This airport will probably see the most number of landings per day by the 787. The
54 Indy : If an old article I read ever plays out you'll see LH flying IND-FRA with the 787-800 some day. Too bad I won't be living in the IND area to enjoy it.
55 STT757 : Virgin has 15 787-9s on order, any clue as to how they will deploy them?..
56 Fly_yhm : Since GSM if getting a couple hopefully they will fly them in YHM once they get them. They use the 767 now so why not. Either way Ill just go and see
57 PeterSpence : In short: any city worth being classified a city.
58 ADent : ANA has said Tokyo-DEN is a route they are interested to fly with the 787.
59 Tayser : ex MEL (carriers currently operate/possibly to be operate) highly likely: MEL-BKK (QF/JQ) - JQ currently operate MEL-PEK (QF) - new direct route MEL-P
60 Pink77W : the 787 is a "game changer." So will we see routes unthinkable in the past? How about Santa Barbara Ca to LHR? I'm tryin to think Outside of the box.
61 Multimark : Since GSM just went into the UK equivalent of bankruptcy protection, I wouldn't count on it. New routes AC has publicly mused about with 787s were YY
62 SeaBosDca : YYZ-JNB: not likely -- it's too long and has the JNB hot-high issue to deal with. AC could only fly there by using its 77Ls. Even YVR-MEL is right on
63 Boeing747_600 : Unless the aircraft is eventually capable of operating routes like BLR-SFO nonstop without payload restrictions, I don't see how it's a particularly u
64 Airbazar : Why do you think so? Of all the international airlines at BOS only BA has ordered the 787, and with the kind of volume that BA gets and limited gate
65 Bmacleod : Don't forget YOW and YHZ... Both have AC service to LHR.
66 C767P : No right or left for 27, it is the only runway at SAN. It would be great to see the 787 at SAN, as it is one of the reasons this plane was built…to
67 LipeGIG : In my view it depends on airlines and their plans to change the 767 and A330 for their new 787's. I see the 787 as a premium plane, even more to repl
68 SJC30L : Is there any chance the 787 could resurrect the SJC-NRT service that AA used to do with a 777?
69 ATCtower : I think SQ might have a legitimate argument against you here with the utilization of their first A-380.
70 Viscount724 : AC still uses the 77L and 77W on two daily YYZ-YVR-YYZ fllights. The 77L continues to/from SYD and the 77W to/from PEK.
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