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WN Announces Expanded Schedule Today  
User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6562 posts, RR: 51
Posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 13673 times:

I know many on here have been looking forward to today. WN will announce its expanded schedule which will highlight new service from PFN and expanded service from STL, amongst other route adjustments.

I'm very curious about PFN in terms of what cities will actually be added. You can bet there will be one Florida city and BNA...but besides that, it's really unknown. I think BWI stands a good chance, although 2X daily BWI-PFN seems a little odd to me...well, very odd actually. Either BHM, MSY, or HOU should make up the 4th and final nonstop destination...but I think either HOU or MSY have the edge, because you can connect to pretty much any city that WN flies to out of BHM from BNA. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

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User currently offlineRscaife1682 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 13567 times:

My guess would be

HOU-PFN
MDW-PFN
BWI-PFN
MCO-PFN


User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4552 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 13452 times:



Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
expanded service from STL

I wonder if they bring back IND service since it was dropped by AA. At least I think WN used to fly the route.



Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
User currently offlineNKMCO From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 13418 times:

Apparently the code for the new Northwest Florida Beaches International Airport is ECP.

User currently offlineAVLAirlineFreq From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 1040 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 13315 times:



Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
I know many on here have been looking forward to today. WN will announce its expanded schedule which will highlight new service from PFN and expanded service from STL, amongst other route adjustments.

I'm very curious about PFN in terms of what cities will actually be added. You can bet there will be one Florida city and BNA...but besides that, it's really unknown. I think BWI stands a good chance, although 2X daily BWI-PFN seems a little odd to me...well, very odd actually. Either BHM, MSY, or HOU should make up the 4th and final nonstop destination...but I think either HOU or MSY have the edge, because you can connect to pretty much any city that WN flies to out of BHM from BNA. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

I suspect the St. Joe Corporation will have a major influence in where these flights originate. They may not fit the usual mold of initial WN flights.


User currently offlineJreuschl From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 545 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 13308 times:

Wonder if there are any changes from MKE?

User currently offlineLuv2cattlecall From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1650 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 13261 times:
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I didn't want to start another thread for this, but apparently the city is putting up $26 million for WN! I've heard about cities offering $100,000 in marketing assistance... but wow, $26 million. I hope the ROI works in PFN's favor..


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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 13248 times:



Quoting Indy (Reply 2):

I wonder if they bring back IND service since it was dropped by AA. At least I think WN used to fly the route.

WN did used to fly the route, and was dropped by WN after 9/11.

However the STL routes were already announced, they were STL-LAX (2) SAN (1) RDU (1) MSY (1) SEA (1) BNA (2), with an additional frequency to MSP, increasing it to 3 daily STL-MSP.

STL-MSP/BOS begins Jan 10th.

WN hopes to have 83 daily flights to 31 non stop cities in May!

Quoting NKMCO (Reply 3):
Apparently the code for the new Northwest Florida Beaches International Airport is ECP.

Yes, that is correct!

Alex



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User currently offlineCaleeiii From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 13047 times:

Does anyone know what time of the day these updates usually hit the system? As many of you, I have been eagerly awaiting the new schedule for several days.

User currently offlineCALeeIII From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 12877 times:

It's up! BNA, HOU, BWI and MCO have it.

User currently offlineJoeljack From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 937 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 12794 times:



Quoting CALeeIII (Reply 9):
It's up! BNA, HOU, BWI and MCO have it.

2x daily to each for a total of 8 flights per day.


User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6562 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 12772 times:

They are actually selling connections MSY-HOU-ECP and MSY-MCO-ECP! Just a little bit of backtracking.

User currently offlineJoeljack From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 937 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 12707 times:

They are also selling MCI-STL-OMA for the first time....really??? I guess.

User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6606 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 12685 times:



Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 11):
They are actually selling connections MSY-HOU-ECP and MSY-MCO-ECP

Somehow I don't think these will be too popular.

Quoting Joeljack (Reply 10):
2x daily to each for a total of 8 flights per day.

Pretty much what had been rumored all along.

Quoting NKMCO (Reply 3):
Apparently the code for the new Northwest Florida Beaches International Airport is ECP.

Kind of weird, but I guess it works.


User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5901 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 12627 times:
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Any official press releases yet?

User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6562 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 12633 times:

I can see MCO...HOU...BNA...but BWI twice daily? I know they are trying to market the area on a broader scale but I think it'll be a tough sell from Northeast markets. Folks in Northeast don't exactly flock to the Florida panhandle beaches...they stick to MIA, FLL, PBI, RSW, etc. In fact, I think they will have an incredibly tough time filling these airplanes outside of peak season to any of the destinations. But, it has been discussed at length before. It's amazing what subsidies can do. Best of luck, I guess.

[Edited 2009-12-16 08:02:52]

[Edited 2009-12-16 08:03:07]

User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 12532 times:

Hmmh, I don't like the times for STL-West coast but I bet they are scheduled more for connections which totally makes sense.

I was hoping to try to be on the inaugral STL-SAN, or LAX or SEA even but the times don't work out in my favor.

Ya, WN has been doing a lot of backtracking, are you all just discovering this? haha

I can't get myself to book out of ECP yet, does not show me prices...

Waiting for the route map to reflect the new city.

ECP begins May 23rd, 2010 for those wondering, and every other city unless otherwise mentioned, begins selling May 9th, 2010.

Alex



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User currently offlineKnope2001 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2896 posts, RR: 30
Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 12425 times:



Quoting Jreuschl (Reply 5):
Wonder if there are any changes from MKE?

I don't see any substantial differences. 3x BWI, 3x MCI, 2x MCO, 2x LAS, 1x TPA, 1x PHX

No STL, no DEN, no BNA, no LAX, no BOS, etc.

And if those 3x BWI and 3x MCI are ever going to work (and perhaps they will...) summer is the time.


User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 18, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 12353 times:

Schedule is up!!!

http://blogsouthwest.com/blog/summer-2010-everyone-can-party

Some big ones, return of transcon, BWI-LAX and a new one, BWI-SEA!!!

Looks like more DEN additions will be added later on!

Alex



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22924 posts, RR: 20
Reply 19, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 12313 times:



Quoting Joeljack (Reply 12):
They are also selling MCI-STL-OMA for the first time....really??? I guess.

WN has, for the past couple of years, taken a look at where people were "connecting" on two separate tickets and has started to permit the connections. For a long time, STL-BNA was not bookable, but it can now be booked via MCI, BHM, or MDW (and is starting nonstop in a few months).

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 15):
Folks in Northeast don't exactly flock to the Florida panhandle beaches...they stick to MIA, FLL, PBI, RSW, etc. In fact, I think they will have an incredibly tough time filling these airplanes outside of peak season to any of the destinations.

If the subsidy demanded four destinations, I wonder whether there was a better choice. Chicago (and the upper midwest writ large) don't send a whole lot of people to the panhandle - people there tend to vacation on the west coast of Florida if they want Florida beaches (Sarasota, Naples, Marco, etc.), so MDW probably wasn't a great choice either.



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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 20, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 12298 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 19):

WN has, for the past couple of years, taken a look at where people were "connecting" on two separate tickets and has started to permit the connections. For a long time, STL-BNA was not bookable, but it can now be booked via MCI, BHM, or MDW (and is starting nonstop in a few months).

Absolutely, when I was CSA in STL, at minimum I had 50 folks a day come up to me, to "alert me" they would miss connect in MDW due to WX or late flights going onward to BNA. Since they were not booked under the same itinerary, we were not aware of this as an agent.

At the ticket counter for those checking bags, they would ask me to check the bag all the way to BNA via MDW, again even though they had separate itineraries.

So I can see the demand is probably there, however faremeasure.com shows 89 one way folks STL-BNA, thats about 2 CRJ's on Eagle LOL

Also Lexy, BNA got 9 additional flights, I told you to keep an eye out for BNA and that BNA would be getting some flights and returns!!!

Alex



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22924 posts, RR: 20
Reply 21, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 12187 times:



Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 20):
So I can see the demand is probably there, however faremeasure.com shows 89 one way folks STL-BNA, thats about 2 CRJ's on Eagle LOL

With MCI fare levels, I bet they can get MCI-type demand (175 PDEW or so). With some connections on either end, that should be enough.

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 18):
Looks like more DEN additions will be added later on!

What does WN hope to accomplish at DEN? Or is it just a pissing match at this point?



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User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6606 posts, RR: 24
Reply 22, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 12149 times:



Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 18):
Some big ones, return of transcon, BWI-LAX and a new one, BWI-SEA!!!

Looks like they were unhappy with FL having these routes to itself.

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 21):
What does WN hope to accomplish at DEN?

That's the million dollar question. I'm guessing they want to keep the pressure on F9/RAH. The bottomline is that the rise of F9/YX/RAH as a national LCC is a threat to WN.


User currently offlineSWABrian From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 299 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 12153 times:

Hey everyone, Bill Owen has a post at our blog that outlines the changes, and he has a PDF file summarizing the new service: http://www.blogsouthwest.com/blog/summer-2010-everyone-can-party.

We have also heard that the fares are slow to load this morning, but we hope to have them all up and available soon.

Brian


User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6562 posts, RR: 51
Reply 24, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 12076 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 19):
If the subsidy demanded four destinations, I wonder whether there was a better choice

Probably not. BHM and MSY would have been interesting for the sake of trying to capture the large drive in market from both of those cities, but I guess the numbers didn't add up. Otherwise, the cities picked seemed like the safest bets in my view.


25 SANFan : Interesting - taking on FL head-to-head, at least on the SEA route (and I think LA as well?) Any insiders have an internal schedule-recap (that lists
26 C767P : WN never did away with transcons, as they have been doing BWI-SAN since it started in July 2003.
27 Cubsrule : We have two things aimed at LFCs in this announcement: 1) Ensuring that FL is not alone on any route to a WN city ex-BWI (for the first time, I belie
28 SWABrian : See my post above. On the blog is a pdf file with a city by city recap. " target=_blank>http://www.blogsouthwest.com/blog/su...arty.
29 Atrude777 : Ya I knew that, poor wording on my part, sorry! Should be saying additional returns of transcons and new ones. Hey, go to the link I or swabrian post
30 FlyPNS1 : Actually, up until FL launched LAX/SEA, every route they flew to a WN city was also flown by WN itself. Even worse, in the blog they mentioned that m
31 SANFan : Found it! (Thanks for mentioning that Brian.) Nice to see growth around the system even though a lot of it may be for the summer only. (Although "gro
32 Post contains links ScottB : When I saw the schedule changes for BNA, Lexy is exactly who I thought of... I'm not an insider, but the blog posting lists the route-by-route change
33 FlyIGuy : They have also updated the Where We Fly portion of SWA.com adding PFN and the added flights from STL, BWI etc...
34 Travelin man : Still waiting for BUR-SFO..... come on WN, I know you want to do it...
35 SWABrian : ECP is the airport code for the new airport. We will not be serving PFN. From what we understand, selecting ECP was an arbitrary decision. I do like
36 Dadoftyler : And the answer is: Because it was available. Not many codes were available that both FAA and IATA would recognize **together** (that last word is the
37 MtnWest1979 : So will most of these be discontinued this fall and so forth. Seems many are just restarting routes they already flew recently.
38 Cubsrule : Correct, though SEA has been summer seasonal for a couple of years. But I think they can make money with 20 flights. Why not make a little money and
39 WA707atMSP : The route I keep hoping for is MSP-OMA. Nebraskans who live in the Twin Cites complain about how tough the drive "back home" is, because they can eith
40 FlyPNS1 : That's probably true, though UA poses little threat to WN while F9/YX/RAH does. Most of the other markets are already well served by WN. I don't thin
41 SANFan : I have always assumed that the "suspension" of those flights was temporary, Scott. So IF fuel remains fairly stable, and the economy continues to imp
42 Aviatortj : Doesn't look like WN is being too aggressive in MSP. Additional non-stops will be a big hit if they ever come. The people of MN can already fly anywhe
43 MSYtristar : Thanks for my first good laugh of the day. That actually makes some sense considering some of the crowd that goes there. As for Panama City, I person
44 Silver1SWA : But only using 9 of them right now!
45 Atrude777 : PHL-SAN was operated as a Saturday only for a bit, unless you were not counting that? But yes, we are missing PHL-OAK/LAX and PHL-SAN (once was Satur
46 C767P : I was unaware of SAN-PHL, even for Saturday only. When did they do that?
47 Atrude777 : January 16th, 2005 shows a timetable of PHL-SAN Flight 1801 Dpt 6:35pm, Arrive 9:35pm Alex
48 SANFan : Correct, and also correct, I was not counting that... And 1A is still not one of them, correct R? (I hope they're at least keeping it dusted and clea
49 C767P : Thank you. Looks like it ended 4/2/05. Doesn’t seem very WN like, to start a route as Saturday only, operate one flight on it, and to give up on it
50 Chrisair : You've never been in there when delays pop up. It's awful. In fact, the whole WN setup in SAN is awful. The "circle of death," comes to mind. I have
51 SANFan : P, yeah, we've had pretty good luck with WN's conversions of Sat-only to permanent flights but, as I mentioned earlier, I think SAN-PHL was on the sh
52 C767P : Are you trying to sell this off to aviation enthusiast that this is a bad thing?! I live in SAN and think it would now be worth it to try and connect
53 Post contains links C767p : You can’t blame WN for going after US after their CEO (David Siegel at the time) told employees that Southwest was “coming to kill us”. If that
54 ScottB : Ah yes, that makes sense... for both! I would guess that once economic conditions improve out in California, we'll probably see WN start to add back
55 Chrisair : Not at all. It's a good thing, actually, from a CS point of view. Saves the customer the hassle of TSA, which usually isn't more than 1 or 2 mins at
56 AAtakeMeAway : Are these the old CO gates?
57 Mariner : That's always been my view, but I think you're preaching to the unconvertible. mariner
58 PlaneAdmirer : And that's why F9 is my first choice and UA is my second. They are both far more committed to the broadest possible service from DEN.
59 Cubsrule : I guess I just wonder whether the aircraft would be better-invested elsewhere. Is there really no lower hanging fruit? CLT?
60 C767P : Gate 1 and 2 were added just for Southwest. I don’t know when that project was complete, but it cost $10.3 million to add. Gate 1A was completed so
61 FlyPNS1 : But historically, WN has had little luck knocking legacies out of their major hubs, so if that's their goal they may be setting themselves up for dis
62 Post contains images Mariner : But - they didn't.    Southwest announced MIKE May 20. Republic didn't announce their acquisition of Midwest until June 23 and their bid for Fronti
63 Knope2001 : But Southwest announced MIlwaukee in mid May 2009. Republic announced plans to buy Midwest in late June 2009. Republic battled Southwest for control
64 Post contains links Joeljack : Southwest to add 15 additional flights from Denver starting in August that are not on this list announced today. See Link: http://denver.bizjournals.c
65 Indy : I think probably the obvious question is how much more growth can the DEN market sustain before it starts to cause financial harm to the big 3 airlin
66 ScottB : As an O&D market, CLT is about 40% the size of DEN, and there's an entrenched legacy carrier at CLT as well. Southwest is also weaker on the East Coa
67 Cubsrule : And there's an entrenched legacy and an entrenched LFC at DEN... The low O&D is largely a result of the different fare levels; with equivalent fare l
68 AVLAirlineFreq : This is actually a market that I think will be greatly stimulated by WN's entry into it. There are a lot of people who now drive STL-BNA (5 hours), n
69 Bigsky09 : Exactly! I don't think F9 is much of a threat, and eventually I think you will see F9 give a little up in DEN. They will have there own problems with
70 Post contains images Mariner : Republic owns five airlines - four of which are profitable. I guess if they're ever short of cash, they can sell some of those 124 x US Airways slots
71 Cubsrule : Agreed. I make the drive at least once a month and am always surprised at the number of Missouri plates I see on the last 50 miles of it.
72 Bigsky09 : [quote=Mariner,reply=70]I guess if they're ever short of cash, they can sell some of those 124 x US Airways slots they own at DCA and LGA.[/quote This
73 Mariner : That's right. Or - a few other things. How do you think they bought 10 x E190 for no cash outlay? mariner
74 Atrude777 : Not a huge addition, but keep in mind MSP-STL begins January 10th, 2010, and according to SWA they are VERY pleased with the advanced bookings, they
75 ScottB : Actually, there already exists low-fare stimulation in several of the key O&D markets from CLT -- NYC, BOS, MCO, WAS (via BWI), FLL. Average fares at
76 Post contains links LoneStarMike : And it's actually 89 people per day in both directions - or about 45 PDEW. But look at the avg. one-way fare. $182.71 or about $0.67 per mile. Compar
77 Bigsky09 : Never said they had no cash, just not much of it..... ?
78 IgneousRocks : I'll be one of those doing SAT-HOU via DAL on Christmas Day. Never been to DAL and have lived in Texas and have been flying SWA for 20+ years. Good p
79 LoneStarMike : I don't know when the threshold will be crossed, but I think UA will suffer the most. Pre-WN F9 had most of the DEN-based passengers who wanted to fl
80 Mariner : Yes, I'm aware of that - you say it with great regularity. But sometimes people confuse cash-in-hand with what the company is actually worth. It isn'
81 Bigsky09 : LOL!!!! Really, are you serious...Wow! So, what happens if the cash flow stopped or slowed down for any reason??? With little to no cash what will th
82 Post contains links Mariner : Very serious. Why would I not be? Its wildly off topic, but you asked and if you seriously want to know, try reading this - Republic at the Next Gene
83 Post contains images CGKings317 : I am surprised no one has talked about PDX yet. PDX gained three flights with this schedule update: PDX - DEN from 2 to 3 PDX - LAS from 3 to 4 PDX -
84 SANFan : Correction P. Gates 1 and 2 were part of the original "new" terminal (which opened in March of 1967) and those gates were used by Western; in fact, g
85 Post contains links LoneStarMike : Consumer Airfare Report Look in Table 6. The most current data is 2Q 2009. Note that each city-pair is only listed once underneath whatever city in t
86 C767P : Thank you! I have asked the airport about that area many times as no one could tell me when it was added, a remodel of it makes much more sense.
87 ScottB : That's not quite so true anymore, since they do have to have cash on hand to support the branded operation and its potential ups and downs. The fixed
88 CGKings317 : Thanks LoneStarMike! I have bookmarked the website for future use. So If I am reading correctly, PDX-STL has ~239 PAX both directions which, if divid
89 Mariner : I think it is the wrong thread to do it, but the profit BB estimates, for the contract flying only, in 2010 seems darn healthy to me. And one part of
90 ScottB : The DCA slots are certainly on the books. Apparently the LGA slots were depreciated to zero value at 12/31/2006.
91 Atrude777 : Well, a WN 737-700 holds 137 folks, so maybe it can conjure up enough connections to provide that. I won't say it won't happen, but PDX-MCI is alread
92 Mariner : DCA or LGA, It's still $46 million - your figure. mariner
93 SANFan : I wouldn't hold my breath for either route, CG'. There's a lot to route implementation that's way beyond what the DOT traffic figures show. In the ca
94 Cubsrule : Correct - but not in others like Chicago or Dallas. DEN is larger, but the different competitive environments have to account for some of the differe
95 FlyPNS1 : Indirectly, even markets like Chicago and Dallas have some low-fare stimulation due to FL/B6 offering connections via their hubs. Granted, that's not
96 Airport : Well, if that were true then why did AA/TW operate 5x daily MD-80s (and if I remember right, there was also a time where the schedule was 3-4x daily
97 AAtakeMeAway : T1 = old East Terminal right? When you walk in, these gates are to the right, by themselves, and not part of the two rotundas, do I have that right?
98 SANFan : Correct, just east (right) of the (current) WN ticket counter. That is now technically gate 19 and is not really used (no security, no jetway, etc.)
99 Post contains links and images C767P : I am a visual person myself, this picture might help: This is all of Terminal 1, gate 1A is at the bottom of the picture, you can really see how tigh
100 Grain : well... to add more speculation and say that WN will be adding 4 cities in 2010. this comes from someone in upper mgmt during a meeting today. not sur
101 AAtakeMeAway : OK, I got it straight now, interesting stuff... Thanks! That's right! Flight Times and News of The Port. My family had a boat on Harbor Island back t
102 ScottB : Clearly, one of them will be ECP. And WN cannot yet serve DAL non-stop from CLT. Five more years to go. They could certainly have a station with 12-2
103 Bigsky09 : Starting to question both. ????????? I am sorry, wasn't sure you were serious, but I guess you are so I apologize, I just figured nobody could make a
104 Mariner : I'm really quite puzzled that you want to have this conversation in a thread about Southwest. I've supplied you with material. All you have to do is
105 QANTAS747-438 : Uh oh... not another friend of a friend in upper management post again! Has it been a few weeks already???
106 Cubsrule : Absolutely - but that should suggest a greater chance for stimulation with lower fares, shouldn't it? There are probably 75 million people within an
107 Bigsky09 : LOL!!! I know, you do that alot! Whatever that means, i guess I shrug back......
108 FL787 : Is LUV08 back with a different name?
109 Chrisair : They better add CLT. Charlotte does not mean GSP, GSO, CAE or anything else. It means that big airport 15 minutes from downtown. DCA would be a great
110 Cubsrule : If they are not, they need to be trying as hard as they can to get slots at both LGA and DCA out of the US/DL deal.
111 Bigsky09 : LOL!!!!
112 CGKings317 : Exactly! Thanks Airport for backing me up on this. I agree that market stimulation would bring these numbers up markedly. I, to would like an answer
113 MrSTL : WN has a unique opportunity to gain market share in STL. WN could also operate STL-SNA, ONT, SJC, OAK/SFO and probably be successful. IMO they put in
114 Airport : And you do bring up a fair point, but I'm not talking about 5 daily nonstops. We've already established that there are 120 people flying the route an
115 Grain : more like i was sitting in the meeting. since i am an employee.
116 Cubsrule : But, again, WN is capturing about 40 percent of the market already. What purpose does a nonstop serve?
117 CGKings317 : Market stimulation, plus onward connections. People say that WN serves PDX-MCI and that it is a good middle-of-the-country airport, but I have heard
118 Cubsrule : Let's take those two points in order. 1) There isn't that much room for market stimulation, at least not long term. STL's average fare to PDX is lowe
119 N702ML : You do realize you would have to purchase 49 Monopoly games to get a million dollars, don't you?
120 GentFromAlaska : I'm surprised WN hasn't added more flights to SEA for the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver BC. The Games open Feb 12 I thought for sure WN would keep
121 CGKings317 : Ahhh, now I understand: so a PDX-BNA route would be more logical than PDX-STL flight b/c of Florida connections. Now I got your drift. I apologize if
122 737tanker : In January WN will be changing gates at MCI. All of the new gates will be inside the same security area. So when that happens in mid-Jan connections
123 Lexy : Alex, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and everyone else on here!! Thank you for the kind words. Things aren't so bad here at BNA right now.
124 Lexy : Sorry for the double post, but the Christmas Eve Punch is really tingling tonight!! You guys are cracking me up into a thousand pieces!! LMAO!!!!! Th
125 F9fan : I wonder if ECP is like how DVX was when the new Denver International Airport was when it was under construction. Up until about five years ago, WN ne
126 Flyiguy : What about LAS, PHX, MCO, and TPA...WN has the a pretty good fair share at those airports as well and 3 of the 4 with the exception of MCO with SFB o
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