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User currently offlineAdriaticflight From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 517 posts, RR: 2
Posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7795 times:

Lets start a new. Its great to see that Balkan Aviation is so popular.

New flights from Wizzair.

Dortmund - Zagreb 3times weekly from 30 March 2010

Well done Wizzair and Zagreb airpor!

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User currently offlineAlm1 From Lithuania, joined Oct 2008, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7782 times:

AirBaltic will start Riga-Belgrade 4x week on May 5.

Also I think it wasn't mentioned that Tarom will start 3x weekly Bucarest-Riga on March 30.


User currently offlineJU068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2691 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7772 times:
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WHAT?! That is amazing news but why on earth would BT start flights to Belgrade? I can only see getting passengers flying to Scandinavia. Would it be possible for them to fly to Riga and then from Riga to New York? Do they have a code-share agreement?

User currently offlineJoeKuboj From Serbia, joined Feb 2004, 164 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7768 times:

http://www.baltic-course.com/eng/transport/?doc=21605

edit: belgrade added to list http://www.airbaltic.com/public/index.html

[Edited 2009-12-16 05:59:21]


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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27102 posts, RR: 60
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7740 times:

BEG is certainly getting a good boost. Probably because its been artificially held back for the last 15 years. Great news indeed.

User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 7705 times:

Wizz Air apparently to station one Serbian registered A320 in BEG soon, to operate from Terminal 1

http://www.b92.net/biz/vesti/srbija....yyy=2009&mm=12&dd=16&nav_id=398713



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User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 7703 times:



Quoting JU068 (Reply 2):
WHAT?! That is amazing news but why on earth would BT start flights to Belgrade?

I second that question, very surprising!!! And exciting!!! 4 times per week...

Here is the news bit from their website...

Riga - Belgrade
from EUR 59
flights from 05.05.2010.

Belgrade – just where the Danube meets the Sava Rivers in modern day Serbia, there is a party city like no other. Southeastern Europe’s fourth largest city, Belgrade is an intersection of east and west, where floating bars and an endless party scene have earned the city a reputation as one of the most exciting places on earth. Dating back some 8000 years, and exchanged from empire to empire and culture to culture, Belgrade is packed with fortresses and palaces, monuments and forested parks, and plenty of cafes and museums on the river banks. From impressive Kalemedan Citadel to the underground scene of Skadarska and onward to shopping on Knez Mihailova, Belgrade delivers a travel experience like no other.



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User currently offlinePutnik From Brazil, joined Aug 2007, 229 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 7693 times:

The proposed schedule seems to be as follows:
BT501 RIX 1155 - 1310 BEG
BT502 BEG 1350 - 1715 RIX
Operated four times a week by Boeing 737-500 on Mon, Wed, Fri & Sun.



LH504 - we always remember our first :)
User currently offlineJU068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2691 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 7691 times:
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@Joker
I even went to their site and tried to book a ticket, and for now you can only book it for Riga, but the final price came 99,19!!!!!!! Not bad for a 2h35min flight
A friend of mine who lives in Minsk takes them regularly to Italy and her ticket isn't more than 200 euros!
I think they are trying to do the same. By the way the plane will be a 735.


Now what I am interested in is will there be a code-share with Jat, as from what I can recall they did fly to Croatia last summer, and if JU is going to expand their business there (let's stay optimistic here Big grin) they can give them a nice share of passengers, like LO advertised Pula in their magazine in co-operation with JU through BEG...


User currently offlineAdriaticflight From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 517 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7618 times:

Does anyone know the date that CTN will start flying to BG? i would love to be on the first flight after so many years. Great news about Air Baltic.

Quoting JU068 (Reply 2):
I can only see getting passengers flying to Scandinavia

Scandinavia is large  Smile but also Air Baltic fly to many places in the former USSR sunch as Kiev, Moscow, St. Petersburg, Tashkent, Baku..


User currently offlineJoeKuboj From Serbia, joined Feb 2004, 164 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7575 times:

Aegean to start ATH-BEG on jan 1st

in serbian only: http://www.blic.rs/drustvo.php?id=125897



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User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1817 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7573 times:

What´s the low-cost carrier that will start flying from BEG to Cairo and Sharm El Sheik?

Quoting Alm1 (Reply 1):
AirBaltic will start Riga-Belgrade 4x week on May 5.

WOW!!! I have always been interested in this route, but I never asked your opinion on a.net...Great news. This will offer great connections to Helsinki too...Gotta try this route next year.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 4):
BEG is certainly getting a good boost. Probably because its been artificially held back for the last 15 years. Great news indeed.

But I hope that it will not increase criminal, prostitution etc.  Smile

Quoting JoeKuboj (Reply 10):
Aegean to start ATH-BEG on jan 1st

Are they cheaper then OA in general? This could be good if they offer connections to islands.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27102 posts, RR: 60
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 7519 times:



Quoting JoeKuboj (Reply 10):
Aegean to start ATH-BEG on jan 1st

Great news , Another pending Star carrier. BEG is becoming quite Star covered.

Quoting AlexEU (Reply 11):
But I hope that it will not increase criminal, prostitution etc.

Dont see why . Not more than anywhere else...

Quoting AlexEU (Reply 11):
Are they cheaper then OA in general?

Not at all. I looked at them for my last trip ATH-IST a few weeks back and they were triple the price than OA. Also booked a Athens - Samos domestic flight for my cousin a few days ago and the flight was €130 !!


User currently offlineJU068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2691 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 7407 times:
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@OA260
Maybe A3 was more expensive simply because it had a higher load-factor?

What plane would A3 deploy to Belgrade?
I am afraid that Athens might become saturated, we have Olympic which goes double daily from January 1st, then we will have Aegean with their daily flight and Jat flying three times a week. That means that on some days there will be 4 daily flights, is there really that much demand?
Unfortunately I see Jat losing this battle.

Does anyone know if they are planning to upgrade the airbridges on the A terminal, or now that they have the busses will the low-cost park on the parking behind or on the Terminal 1 (how many gates are there?)

Thanks


User currently offlineTripleDelta From Croatia, joined Jul 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7395 times:
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Quoting Adriaticflight (Reply 9):
Does anyone know the date that CTN will start flying to BG? i would love to be on the first flight after so many years.

The first scheduled flight is set for May 1st 2010, using a Q400  Smile.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27102 posts, RR: 60
Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 7385 times:



Quoting JU068 (Reply 13):
@OA260
Maybe A3 was more expensive simply because it had a higher load-factor?

They dont always work like that. You can pay a fortune then get on the A/C and find 50 seats available. That goes for alot of airlines from my experience.


User currently offlineJU068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2691 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7367 times:
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So they fly daily to Athens, what about Olympic and Turkish?
And what planes do they use?


User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1817 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7332 times:



Quoting JU068 (Reply 13):
Does anyone know if they are planning to upgrade the airbridges on the A terminal, or now that they have the busses will the low-cost park on the parking behind or on the Terminal 1 (how many gates are there?)

When T1 was used for domestic flights, they had 3 gates, but I guess it doesn´t matter since T1 and T2 are connected. But that terminal should be used anyway. It´s also nostalgic in some way, at least for me...

Quoting OA260 (Reply 12):
Not at all. I looked at them for my last trip ATH-IST a few weeks back and they were triple the price than OA. Also booked a Athens - Samos domestic flight for my cousin a few days ago and the flight was €130 !!

I read somewhere that OA is a low-cost airlines...
Why are there no low-cost carriers based in ATH? I can see a lot of opportunity for U2, FR, W6...


User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7303 times:



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 17):
I can see a lot of opportunity for U2, FR, W6...

The government sent letters to all three inviting them for talks in Belgrade regarding potential flights (and even basing) in Serbia. So far, only W6 responded.... It will be interesting to see if U2 and FR respond or show any interest at this point - personally, I doubt it.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27102 posts, RR: 60
Reply 19, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 7272 times:



Quoting JU068 (Reply 16):
And what planes do they use?

TK = B737 A3 and OA A320/A319

Quoting AlexEU (Reply 17):
I read somewhere that OA is a low-cost airlines...

OA is a airline that offers full in flight service and cheap fares.

OP 315/320 Operated By Olympic Air ATH-IST- W/PICS (by OA260 Dec 3 2009 in Trip Reports)


User currently offlineFatmirJusufi From Albania, joined Jan 2009, 2441 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 7262 times:

Has been yet reported any 'expansion' at airports (BEG, TIV, TGD or SKP) due to visa liberalisation?

Fatmir



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User currently offlineJU068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2691 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 7239 times:
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Actually the depute CEO of Belgrade airport is/was in Madrid to discuss the purchase of the rest of the airbridges for Belgrade airport.
I think it is going to be a mess when they start fixing those, especially now with the increase in traffic...

It's nice to see that these past days there has been increased capacity on some routes to Belgrade, like Lufthansa from Munich (very often 319/320) and also Budapest (Fokker 70 and Boeing 737-600 these days), haven't really seen anything else different.
But according to Blic Jat was sold out on the European flights, 5 700 transported passengers, good for them!


User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1817 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 7204 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 19):
OA is a airline that offers full in flight service and cheap fares.

Sorry, I wanted to say A3 not OA...


User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 23, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 7186 times:



Quoting JU068 (Reply 2):
Would it be possible for them to fly to Riga and then from Riga to New York? Do they have a code-share agreement?

Why not? I'm really surprised to see BT, too....But, if they find some reason to come to BEG, we should not ask much about it. More planes and more liveries here would be more than welcome  bouncy 

Quoting OA260 (Reply 4):
BEG is certainly getting a good boost.

It looks as though BEG is becoming the biggest hit in the region. Everybody want to come here.

Quoting AlexEU (Reply 11):
What´s the low-cost carrier that will start flying from BEG to Cairo and Sharm El Sheik?

Coral Blue?  confused 

Quoting AlexEU (Reply 11):
But I hope that it will not increase criminal, prostitution etc.

I mean, negative side affects are inevitable, but let's face it...boom in tourism would give more positive than negative things here.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 12):
BEG is becoming quite Star covered.

And if TK becomes a co-owner of JU, BEG will become quite a big Star center.

Quoting TripleDelta (Reply 14):
The first scheduled flight is set for May 1st 2010, using a Q400

May 1st? Prvomajski uranak? Svi koji lete moraju da nose crvenu maramu i karanfil Big grin



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User currently offlineJU068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2691 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7180 times:
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@Aleksandar
True true, it's definetly going to be cool seeing them there, I was dreaming of seeing AirBaltic in Belgrade since 2007 when we had that Youth festival games (or whatever). When I mentioned the New York flights I meant if they still have that code-share with Uzbekistan...

- I think all Ex-YU airlines should have their cabin crew wear a crvenu maramu and a karanfil on the first of May!
It seems to me that the Yu nostalgia has brought Adria as well to Belgrade on that same day!  Wink


25 Aleksandar : I'd rather see Uzbekistan in Belgrade then....What a sight it was to see their 767 take-off. Speaking of code-share flights, someone mentioned before
26 TripleDelta : Anything is possible . Maybe they could repaint the Dash in those colors... if it decides to even fly that day in the first place .
27 Aleksandar : Anyway, I have my pioneer's scarf and all I need is some Tito souvenir to bring along
28 Flycro : Easyjet are selling a third daily flight to Split from London, but from Stansted.
29 JU068 : Well if JU does become a partner of Turkish would it be realistic to see a Turkish plan stopping on their North American flights in Belgrade to collec
30 Putnik : Passing over any competing airport in region is still somewhat questionable. In order of doing so, BEG has to reestablish itself as a viable connecti
31 AlexEU : Or maybe Air Cairo. Anyway it is about the time to see BEG-CAI. Did they sell tickets for the Belgrade - Tashkent sector too? I wonder how many pax w
32 OA260 : LOL.. they are all newbies!! I have been a fan during the good times and the bad times.. B777 in BEG
33 JU068 : @OA260 we came close when there was the whole Air India thing... but I think we would rather see a 330-200 But it's a start @Putnik Well, I think Belg
34 AlexEU : I´d rather see DC-10
35 JU068 : Hehehe I would as well, 20 years ago, Belgrade deserves some decent airlines/planes today And I think they are on the right track
36 Aleksandar : Yes, they did...but I'm not sure if it worked well in that direction. One of the biggest tour operators offered tours to Uzbekistan and region with d
37 Aleksandar : I think it is Lotus Air and Koral Blue and they will fly to tourist destinations like HRG and SSH I doubt TK would stop at BEG. First, it would be ex
38 JU068 : yeah but that is the thing, how much demand is there from Belgrade to the far east and the middle east? I don't think there is that much for them to b
39 Aleksandar : You're right. Kon Tiki uses TK flights a lot. Not only to Istanbul, but for their tours to Far East or Dubai (sometimes they use AZ too.) You see....
40 JU068 : When I went to Istanbul in February all the package deals to Istanbul were on Jat, not a single one with Turkish, probably because Turkish is not that
41 Luka : There is obviously some chaos at Olympic since they are, as it stands now, terminating flights to Belgrade in January (last flight DEC31 09), despite
42 OA260 : XBAЛA Didnt even know there was an airport there. Nice hotel called the Riviera there .
43 Putnik : If I recall well, Olympic flights to BEG are still operated under the "old" OA AOC, hence the old set of flight numbers OA387/OA388. BEG is not the o
44 AlexEU : TK has good connections to Middle Eastern destinations such as Baghdad, Tehran etc. BEG needs direct flights to BEI or DAM. Is it a scheduled flight o
45 JU068 : @AlexEU Well it's a charter that flies once a week, I am not really sure if you can book your ticket, haven't really checked... @Luka Why? What is hap
46 AlexEU : AFAIK the flight to Tel Aviv already stops at LCA? If Jat could get widebodies and flights to Beijing, then UAE would be worthless. As you said, TK t
47 JU068 : AlexEU There are 4 weekly flights to Larnaca, two on their way to Tel Aviv and two to Abu Dhabi. If they go direct to Dubai (let's say) we are stuck w
48 Adriaticflight : Yes, this is very good news indeed! extra capacity on London-Split it always welcome. First Split-Stansted flights meaning the airport is now served
49 AlexEU : But if both Tel Aviv and Abu Dhabi (or DXB) were direct, you would expect only 2 or 3 direct flights from BEG to LCA. I bet that if Jat had E-jets, 4
50 JU068 : Well I don't see Tel Aviv as a direct flight, I actually I see it as a seasonal, as the plane usually arrives empty to Larnaca. Just the other day the
51 Putnik : Hehehe, I actually have no problems with those flight timings. They allow a full day of work/play, a late dinner, a quick coffee at the airport and a
52 JU068 : Ah tell me about it, my flight to Budapest leaves at 04:35 this saturday, but at least it will be a decent plane (738). The problem with that flight i
53 Flycro : Unbelievable BA could not make LGW-SPU work. Perhaps U2 could add a MAN-SPU link also. Or perhaps instead of 3 daily to SPU they could fly LGW-ZAD? M
54 Post contains links OA260 : Jat Airways plane in emergency landing 21 December 2009 | 12:13 | Source: Beta BELGRADE -- A Jat Airways Boeing 737 traveling from Belgrade to Istanbu
55 JU068 : Ok so I have a little story to share with you guys. I just came back from Larnaca airport, my dear mother was flying to Athens on Aegean (which was al
56 Aleksandar : It happens to them way too often and that is the thing that really bothers me about JAT. Well, this is JAT at its best. It is good that those passeng
57 JU068 : Well Jat did offer to pay for their rooms until the next flight, which would be in 3-4 days, but the two girls refused so I guess they wanted Jat to p
58 OA260 : Oh I thought that they would have to pay for it themselves and read it wrong. Well JAT was not that bad then. I thought they were leaving them on the
59 JU068 : Well knowing Jat anything is possible! But they did put them in the hotel last night as well, the 'mother' said that they got to their rooms at around
60 OA260 : Thats what happens if you go clubbing in Ayia Napa I guess they just wanted to get to TLV asap otherwise a stopover in Cyprus to see some of the reli
61 JU068 : True, but then again who would say no when Jat is paying They didn't seem that nice and they were rather nasty to the poor Larnaca airport employees w
62 Aleksandar : Well, I'm not surprised because wheather was bad all over Central Europe and with delays and eveything, one has to be very imaginative to find a plac
63 AlexEU : Shame for the poor pax! Jat should have bought them another ticket, instead of waiting for 3-4 days in hotel, that could ruin their schedule. But I w
64 JU068 : @Aleksandar Well they didn't put them in Hilton or Le Meridien, but they put them in a three star hotel 20 min walk from the centre of Larnaca. One ni
65 OA260 : Remember those voucher well. It was a good option.Also from LHR lots of Australians and South Africans on the A300 to ATH connecting to the B747. The
66 FRACO7X : Exotic?? Not really. But under the prevailing conditions in FRA absolutely "normal". Last year when our ground staff was on strike we had some exotic
67 Humberside : Jet 2 will be flying MAN-SPU up to 2xWeek next summer (MAN-DBV also)
68 Post contains links and images OA260 : Just got this email from OA.
69 JU068 : Heheheheh yeah me too, and if you go their site they have the commericial as well, really cute one! Good job...
70 Putnik : I've noticed that in the past few weeks a number of flights from BEG got cancelled. Today's arrival from SKP was cancelled for example. In the previou
71 JU068 : My sister and her boyfriend flew to Larnaca last night (the flight was full to the last seat, half of the people came out in Paphos) and the flight to
72 AlexEU : I saw JU flight to TIV going via TGD which is strange... The flight stops in Paphos?
73 JU068 : No no, just that the lights broke down in Larnaca so they flight diverted to Paphos. I just saw on the site of Belgrade airport that a new airline is
74 Putnik : That seems to be Yamal Airlines operating out DME. The flight numbers designated for BEG flights (LLM9443/LLM9444) were previously used for their fli
75 AlexEU : Looking forward to trip report, but unfortunetly my software doesn´t recognize photobucket anymore, so I can´t view pictures in trip reports... Are
76 Post contains links and images OA260 : According to wiki starts 3rd Feb . Would be nice to see this :
77 FatmirJusufi : What's happening at BEG after liberalization? Is there high demand for intra-European flights? Fatmir
78 JU068 : Yamal's site is strange, I couldn't find anything there, and it was all in Russian, well I couldn't find the English version. I spoke to the flight at
79 Post contains links and images FatmirJusufi : The 733 and 752 is reality. Still have to wait about 747 though. View Large View MediumPhoto © John Ballantyne http://www.planepictures.net/nets
80 FatmirJusufi : Forgot to add! According to airfleets the current fleet of LV Boeing 737-300 --- 2 Boeing 757-200 --- 1 Bae 146 --- 2 McDonnell Douglas MD82 --- 1 TOT
81 Post contains links and images OA260 : Where are the DC9's coming from??
82 FatmirJusufi : Huh?! Any chance to confuse with MD82?
83 OA260 : Its from their website when you go to book a flight to Tirana you click on the flight number and it shows that . Is their B757 a former Air Slovakia
84 FatmirJusufi : Yep, it's ex-GM OM-ASG.
85 JU068 : where will the 757 fly to?
86 FatmirJusufi : I guess THR, JED or DXB!
87 Luka : Today saw a billboard advertising Adria’s new flights from BEG to Ljubljana on one side while on the other side of the same billboard a commercial f
88 OA260 : Do JAT flights ever connect to ATH Via BEG from any other part of the network? Eg: LHR etc...
89 JU068 : I saw Alitalia as well, there is a billboard when you cross Brankov most into the old city to your right, and the other one close to the old Energopro
90 AlexEU : They had 2 trams painted... Highly doubt the THR...BEG-THR would seem more reasonable, although if they could use ATR
91 Luka : I saw one advertising the Caribbean for X Euros.
92 IliriBDL : They should apply for JFK for seasonal service.
93 S4popo : Does the 757 have the legs for TIA-JFK?
94 JU068 : Cool, but I think the most intense advertising campaign is for Portoroz! They really want to make those flights work! If they fly to New York in summe
95 IliriBDL : Good question. lol I'm really not sure, but the demand is there though for the summer months. Maybe somewhere in western Europe like England, Germany
96 Aleksandar : Actually, that flight could be very profitable...at least, it was a profitable service, but unfortunately only for a short period of time in early 19
97 Luka : It was profitable since Serbian companies used to have a lot of projects there but now there is practically no economic cooperation or cooperation of
98 Post contains links OA260 : Two nice videos of Olympic Air http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc0sS-gl694 Xmas Advert http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZLC2rOACes
99 AlexEU : But why do they fly to Pula, Trieste and Portoroz, all relativly close to each other? I didn´t know that. Flights to Baghdad were profitable, but I
100 Aleksandar : Actually, even today those flights could be profitable because Iranian market is huge and many transit passengers could be attracted with good fares
101 Luka : Trieste is not doing that great but Pula is popular and since it only operates on a seasonal basis and tour operators buy a certain amount of seats,
102 JU068 : To be honnest there are more chances of ZAG-IKA than BEG. Today there are a lot of Croats working and living in Iran. But if JU wanted to get some tra
103 AlexEU : Sure, but I wanted to say that I never heard that Tehran flights were effective. I guess they were just reflecting the political situation at the tim
104 Post contains links Aleksandar : Oh, and the latest news are from last night. Sun Express plane on its way to Izmir from Frankfurt performed an emergency landing at BEG last night htt
105 JU068 : God! Some peoples comments there make me wonder...
106 JoKeR : DXB RO does,so did LZ when it still operated.Hemus also attempted the route but failed. Smart Wings operated, so did OK. LO announced it as a possibl
107 JU068 : Is it coincidence that all these flight are above Belgrade or do they chose to land here for some other reason?
108 Post contains links TripleDelta : If you are referring to overflights to/from "mainland" Europe, it's not a coincidence. Several of the most heavily-traveled airways on the Balkans cr
109 AlexEU : I have been doing some contrail photography over BEG and I´ve spotted LY 744 and TG MD-11 (before they retiered it)...Also, every day I spotted Embra
110 AlexEU : excellent link. Shame that they are not covering ex yu!
111 JU068 : Does anyone know if there is some sort of a radar like that for the Balkans?
112 Post contains links FatmirJusufi : Great link but on the other hand I was compraing its reports with http://radar.zhaw.ch/radar.html What's the most improtant their reports doesn't see
113 FatmirJusufi : Sorry! Maybe it was my mistake but now everything is running flawless. Both of them have the same reports. Fatmir
114 Post contains links JoeKuboj : rumor: BEG-HAV in May 2010 http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Drustvo/170...letovi-od-Beograda-do-Kube-od-maja (in serbian only)
115 FatmirJusufi : " target=_blank>http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Drustvo/170...-maja What airline?
116 TripleDelta : I've just looked up an old Jeppesen High Altitude Enroute chart from 2000 and there are quite a few airways going over or near BEG (9 in total). Some
117 OA260 : Doesnt say , just says every 15 days they may run a charter flight. They expect trade between Cuba and Serbia to increase in 2010. Would be a good ro
118 Flyboy_se : Cubana would indeed be nice. Maybe a good time to start a Serbian charter airline operating with TUI brand?? TUIFLY Serbia??...lol maybe 1 767 and 1
119 AlexEU : Serbs don´t need visas for Cuba!
120 JU068 : This is not new, two years ago there was the same piece of news, that Cubana was supposed to fly every two weeks... using an IL-96. I think it would b
121 OA260 : Its an ideal Caribbean destination for Serbs. Lots of people from Poland/Czech Republic etc.. have found Cuba easier when they first started to trave
122 IliriBDL : Why would you go to Cuba though when you can visit Greece, Cyprus, Albania without visa? I wouldn't want to visit a communist country led by Castros.
123 Luka : Cuba is beautiful and it’s nice to get out of Europe once in a while. If we didn’t visit communist countries just because of politics many would
124 OA260 : As much as I love Greece the beaches in Cuba and Winter climate are fantastic! I have been 4 times and travelled all around the main parts. Id love t
125 JU068 : Hehehehe... then I suppose you wouldn't be coming to Cyprus either, since we are a communist country Happy new year everyone!
126 AlexEU : And also a nice opportunity to fly Il-62 Happy new year!
127 JU068 : Just checked Aegean from Larnaca to Belgrade and the return flight would cost 263 euros with taxes, dirt cheap when compared to Jat's 240 euros (direc
128 Luka : TUI opened 2 offices in Belgrade last month (1 in Njegoseva and 1 near Hotel Moskva) so who knows
129 JU068 : Are you sure that the one in Njegoseva is their office, because the last time I checked the agency was called Travel House and they were just selling
130 FatmirJusufi : Anyone knows a similar site for the Balkans airspace?
131 OA260 : I was wondering that also. Would be a great tool to have. There is now only A3 and JU on the route. Montenegro Airlines will start Podgorica- Niš. (
132 Luka : Olympic starts flights on JAN11 You are right its Travel House but the one under Hotel Moskva is TUI.
133 JU068 : Cool! But let's say they do place a plane(s) in Belgrade for the summer season, what would they do during the winter season? Would there be enough pas
134 TripleDelta : That pretty much depends on the availability of the radar feed from these parts - which in turn hinges on the equipment and systems used. I'd wager a
135 Luka : Olympic has definitely cancelled flights to BEG. They are not in the system and Belgrade has been dumped from their website. I wanted to fly with them
136 JU068 : If OA cancelled Belgrade then it would be a shame, they have been flying to Belgrade for a long time, and they have been flying in here when no one el
137 Luka : No problem. It would be a shame especially since they were planning 11 flights per week and their timing suited me the best.
138 OA260 : As I said there is only A3 and JU now. Maybe I should have been more clearer.
139 Flyboy_se : I did not know that.Great news!!! Well if they get 757, they could operate charters to Cuba via lets say Azores, or to India and other warm places. O
140 JU068 : I heard yesterday that Jat had cancelled the waiting list (is there any other airline that doesn't have the waiting list?), and to make things even be
141 Luka : I called Olympic and they told me that they have definitely cancelled their flights. I asked her why and she said that she doesn’t know exactly why
142 OA260 : Lots of airlines have done this. I think that most airlines now only let you waitlist in full Y class or F/J class. All non EU routes were re distrib
143 JU068 : Well at least they will keep the office open -that is good, that means that they didnt give up...
144 Luka : I will be going to Athens with JU since its cheaper by a couple of Euros than Aegean Plus it turns out their flight time actually suits me so that’s
145 Putnik : How that works? What is the procedure for distribution of non-EU routes?
146 AlexEU : Ahahahaha that was hillarious! I had dreams about Aviogenex becoming a ´´normal´´ charter airlines in Serbia, with re-branding of course and new
147 JU068 : Hristos se rodi y'all! So in 2009 Belgrade airport handled 2.384.077 compared to 2.650.048 which is a 10% decrease compared to last year... December i
148 TIA : Interesting. Can you please post the full list and more details? TIA has flights from both A3 and OA (OP) now. Does that mean that only one airline w
149 Post contains links Luka : Good news Jat returns to Dubai - http://exyuaviation.blogspot.com/201...xclusive-jat-returns-to-dubai.html So, for now during the summer 2010 JU is st
150 JU068 : Ah charming, that means we are going to get some middle of the night flights once again here in Larnaca... Since we do pay one of the highest fare in
151 FatmirJusufi : TIA, what A/C they do use mostly? ATR42/72?[Edited 2010-01-08 02:31:27]
152 JoKeR : Direct with "new" 737-700 Any idea where these a/c are coming from?
153 AlexEU : Would be good if they could make some sort of codeshare agreement. This would offer even wider services (e.g. SIN, KUL, BKK, India and Middle East).
154 JU068 : Maybe they got the AeroMexico ones like they were supposed to?
155 JU068 : For those interestedI just came back from the airport, and Malev's flight had 50 passengers and Aegean's 34...
156 Post contains links and images AlexEU : What is this Eurocypria plane doing in BEG? View Large View MediumPhoto © Dejan Milinkovic
157 Post contains images OA260 : Just got an email from OS :
158 Flyboy_se : Great News!!! Are all services by OS, or are some codeshare with JU?? It is incredible the ammount of traffic between Austria and Serbia, both with a
159 JU068 : 10:55 and 19:30 are operated by Jat. I believe three flights a week at 19:30 have been upgraded to a 737-300. Yesterday was the first 22:45 flight of
160 Aleksandar : It's enough to hear where this genius worked. As a tour guide, I can tell you that Autoprevoz Cacak is the most idiotic bus company I ever dealt with
161 JU068 : Yes, I flew on Malév on Sunday and the flight to Budapest was packed to the last seat! What a success!
162 FatmirJusufi : How much did you pay?
163 JU068 : I paid LCA-BUD-BEG so it was like 360 euros, but I had the fixed option for 310. They don't have any promotional tickets from Larnaca to Belgrade.
164 Post contains links JU068 : http://www.beg.aero/mediji/saopstenja_aerodroma.223.html?newsId=480 Interesting that Milan reported the highest growth, Munich is probably due to more
165 AlexEU : I prefer LH B737-300/500 and RJ-85 over A319! But A319 is better then A320 and CRJ. Aegean is using RJ-100 on flights to Athens.[Edited 2010-01-13 19
166 JU068 : Yes, but it's ok- Lufthansa flies the 737-300, and soon you will have AirBaltic with a 737-500. I just can't wait for Air France to upgreade their nas
167 OA260 : They are carrying the reprotections from OA.
168 JU068 : Yeah but without the reprotections, I am wondering what their loads are on the route...
169 OA260 : Loads will increase in the Spring/Summer then drop again in the Winter. The way its always been. Then I guess A3 will see if they want to keep the ro
170 Acabgd : They had the whole Partizan basketball team + coaches + staff + journalists + fans to carry to Athens for the Euroleague game against Olympiakos, I t
171 AlexEU : I can´t think of anything better then A318 that AF has...A319/A320/A321 is similar... AF is using 2x daily ERJ-145 on CDG-LJU. Are BEG-CDG pax mostl
172 TripleDelta : I see those quite often at ZAG too...
173 JU068 : The flight wasn't full with partizan players, it was ordinary passengers, like OA260 said probably OA passengers... - As far as Air France goes I woul
174 Acabgd : But why is that? I mean, AF is not really a trash airline, yet they don't seem to be able quite to compete with JU on the CDG-BEG route. Or is it sim
175 JU068 : I just think that Air France is happy with their one daily and they also have a code-share with Jat, so all is good. As far as the advertisments go, I
176 Aleksandar : Well, it seems that Belgrade is becoming more and more interesting. The latest news is that Wizzair will fly from Belgrade to two destinations: Dortmu
177 Humberside : Blue Air are moving BBU/Sibiu-Stansted flights to Luton. Unsure if Thessalonki-STN stays at Stansted or is axed
178 FatmirJusufi : I do wonder why LTN doesn't make sense?!
179 Acabgd : Because although visas are no longer needed for EU travel for Serbians, the UK is not a member of the Schengen Agreement and therefore visas are stil
180 FatmirJusufi : Yeah I know but besides that many of emigrants living there could easily choose cheap flights as the best option to travel. It's not the matter if is
181 Acabgd : True, but not many expats from Serbia in the UK, which is already quite well served by JU and BA. Well, WizzAir probably did they homework so they pro
182 AlexEU : But still, LTN is a cheaper option then LHR. I would like to see EasyJet flying BEG-LGW. Gatwick could offer good connections from BEG, as it is rath
183 Post contains links Luka : I posted a trip report on Jat with which I flew to Athens on Friday, for those interested. Jat Airways (BEG-ATH) (by Luka Jan 17 2010 in Trip Reports)
184 JU068 : @Luka Good trip report, shame you didn't manage to take a picture of the cabin-crew By the way, I think the business class was there before, as I flew
185 OA260 : Nice report. I see they are having problems recognising A3 on the departures board.
186 Adriaticflight : Who would fly them? no chance even in the long term. Flights to Sofia and Zagreb are needed way before these routes. There is quite enough traffic fo
187 Acabgd : The cones around gate A1 are because (finally) we are getting a new taxiway to connect the A to C platform. It was a bottleneck for years and years a
188 Luka : Great. Thanks for the info.
189 Post contains links JU068 : Emergency landing of the Austrian airlines flight to Vienna today (OS 774, Fokker 100, departed at about 15:30). Passengers evacuated without any prob
190 Acabgd : It was rather an aborted startup and it happened at BEG. The left hand engine started emitting smoke when it spooled up after startup and had to be s
191 JU068 : Ah ok then, just from the article they weren't really accurate (as if they are usually but...), so I wasn't quite sure where it happened. Still great
192 Post contains links FatmirJusufi : New thread Balkan Aviation #5 (by FatmirJusufi Jan 21 2010 in Civil Aviation) Thanks all of you for participating. Fatmir
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