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CO Offers GoGo On The 753s  
User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3667 posts, RR: 5
Posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3392 times:

Announced today:

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Continental Airlines to Offer Gogo Inflight Internet Service
HOUSTON, Dec 16, 2009 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Continental Airlines (NYSE: CAL) today announced that, beginning in the second quarter 2010, it will offer Gogo Inflight Internet service on its fleet of 21 Boeing 757-300 aircraft that primarily serve domestic routes.

"We've been closely watching technology developments to offer onboard connectivity for our customers," said Mark Bergsrud, Continental's senior vice president of marketing programs. "We are excited to be able to offer our customers Internet service, giving them the ability to connect to colleagues, friends and family and work, learn and play while flying."

The new Gogo Inflight Internet service will provide customers full Internet access on their own standard, Wi-Fi equipped laptop or Personal Electronic Device (PED) at speeds similar to wireless mobile broadband services on the ground. Customers will be able to sign up and log in once the aircraft reaches 10,000 feet. The Gogo system, powered by the Aircell Network and available in the continental U.S., will be available to customers at a cost from $4.95 and up, based on length of flight.

"Aircell and Continental share a common focus on putting our customers first," said Ron LeMay, Aircell's President and CEO. "The addition of Gogo Inflight Internet service to Continental's suite of amenities is simply the latest example of the airline's ongoing commitment to service excellence, and we're proud to be part of that. Soon, Continental's passengers will be able to use Gogo to do virtually anything they want on the Internet -- e-mail, chat, poke, tweet, download, upload, shop. In short, flying time is about to become their time."

Continental Airlines is the world's fifth largest airline. Continental, together with Continental Express and Continental Connection, has more than 2,400 daily departures throughout the Americas, Europe and Asia, serving 130 domestic and 132 international destinations.

Continental is a member of Star Alliance, which provides access to more than 900 additional points

in 169 countries via 24 other member airlines. With more than 41,000 employees, Continental has hubs serving New York, Houston, Cleveland and Guam, and together with its regional partners, carries approximately 63 million passengers per year. For more company information, go to continental.com.

SOURCE Continental Airlines

http://www.continental.com

On FT, it was mentioned that CO was going to do a side-by-side comparison of KiteLine, the email service provider by LiveTV, on the 739ERs and AirCell's GoGo WiFi on the 753s. As mentioned, GoGo is confirmed, but not quite sure of KiteLine.


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User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3178 times:

Interesting that they specifically chose to do it on the 753s....I wonder if this is a sort of "test run" and once they see how it goes, they'll expand it to the rest of the fleet?

User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3667 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3076 times:



Quoting Cory6188 (Reply 1):
I wonder if this is a sort of "test run"

That's what is being speculated. All the 739ERs with LiveTV have the capability to run KiteLine with either a "flip-of-the-switch" or a program download. The one problem I see with GoGo on the 753s, no inseat power, especially for those who use their laptops on a 2+hr flight and would need to plug them.



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User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3920 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3011 times:



Quoting AznMadSci (Reply 2):
The one problem I see with GoGo on the 753s, no inseat power, especially for those who use their laptops on a 2+hr flight and would need to plug them.

Am I correct in thinking that the LiveTV adds in-seat power across the aircraft? I assume that if the GoGo internet is successful it will be implemented across the domestic fleet. (I assume that there is no coverage across the Atlantic or Pacific). The choice of LiveTV and/or WiFi on board is an excellent choice for passengers, IMHO. Is CO (or any US carrier) planning on mobile "cell" phone usage?

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User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3667 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2917 times:



Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 3):
Am I correct in thinking that the LiveTV adds in-seat power across the aircraft?

It's my understanding that in-seat power is being added nose-to-tail while LiveTV is being fitted. Some current 738s have in-seat power all the way to the overwing exits. Once fitted, seats in Y will have 2 outlets for each trio of seats.



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User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5438 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days ago) and read 2634 times:



Quoting Cory6188 (Reply 1):
Interesting that they specifically chose to do it on the 753s....I wonder if this is a sort of "test run" and once they see how it goes, they'll expand it to the rest of the fleet?

It makes me wonder if there is a new plan for deploying for the 753's on business routes. How important is an internet offering to leisure travelers?

Hmm... As I type this I am thinking, "But I do take a little netbook on leisure trips ... and I'd be much more likely to pay for Internet access than for LiveTV ..."



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User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16866 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2576 times:



Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 5):
It makes me wonder if there is a new plan for deploying for the 753's on business routes.

They do offer the most first class seating of any CO narrowbody, the first of the remaining four former ATA 757-300s should be arriving soon. When all four are delivered that will give CO 21 757-300s, perhaps that will give CO enough capacity to cover the Florida and Las Vegas routes as well as to beef up EWR/IAH-LAX/SFO flights.



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User currently offlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1452 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2454 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 6):
They do offer the most first class seating of any CO narrowbody, the first of the remaining four former ATA 757-300s should be arriving soon. When all four are delivered that will give CO 21 757-300s,

I noticed one in this recent photo on the flight line at HAECO in HKG. I assume CO is sending them there for the transition checks and reconfiguration...long way for maintenance of a narrowbody, but I think CO has a long term contract with HAECO.


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User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16866 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2219 times:



Quoting TZTriStar500 (Reply 7):

I noticed one in this recent photo on the flight line at HAECO in HKG. I assume CO is sending them there for the transition checks and reconfiguration...long way for maintenance of a narrowbody, but I think CO has a long term contract with HAECO.

That's the first one of the remaining four , CO took delivery of that aircraft on December 1st and it was already in Hong Kong for conversion to CO standards by December 12th.



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User currently offlineFUN2FLY From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1045 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2056 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 8):
That's the first one of the remaining four , CO took delivery of that aircraft on December 1st and it was already in Hong Kong for conversion to CO standards by December 12th.

What's the EIS date?


User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16866 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1987 times:



Quoting FUN2FLY (Reply 9):
What's the EIS date?

Not sure, I would think January?.. They have to give it new seats, interiors, winglets, paint the aircraft, software upgrades etc.. Then they have to bring it to MCO to get the LiveTv and GoGo installed.



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User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3667 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1948 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 10):
Then they have to bring it to MCO to get the LiveTv and GoGo installed.

GoGo yes, but are they also going to install LiveTV on the 753s at this time? Thought they would have the bulk of the remaining 737s fitted before they start on the 753s.



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User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16866 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1927 times:



Quoting AznMadSci (Reply 11):
Thought they would have the bulk of the remaining 737s fitted before they start on the 753s.

Why bring them back for installation in a year when they could do it all now, CO website states the 757-300 fleet will have completed Livetv installation by December 2010. Might as well do it now, to avoid pulling aircraft during the busy Summer season.



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User currently offlineDualQual From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 769 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1844 times:



Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 5):
and I'd be much more likely to pay for Internet access than for LiveTV ..."

Unfortunately the marketing number crunchers haven't quite fully come to this realization yet.


User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3667 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1745 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 12):
Why bring them back for installation in a year when they could do it all now, CO website states the 757-300 fleet will have completed Livetv installation by December 2010. Might as well do it now, to avoid pulling aircraft during the busy Summer season.

True, but on the CO website it says 17 753s and not 21, mainly the 4 coming from ATA. If they were going to conduct this study of KiteLine vs Gogo, it would be interesting if they are going to see what customers like is to utilize KiteLine on the 739ERs with LiveTV, install GoGo on the 17 753s already in the fleet, and the 4 753s from ATA have both and see what customers think and how the numbers look.



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User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3079 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1687 times:

I can't see the 753 being deployed on Business routes. Its an aircraft designed and built for leisure travellers. (How many people can we fit on a narrow-body aircraft?!  biggrin  Wink

That said, I do love the 753s and its great that CO is adding more of them to there fleet.



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User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5438 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1616 times:

There is a discussion in another thread speculating about CO using the ex-ATA ETOPS 753's on HNL routes. Since LiveTV doesn't work on those routes, the Internet alternative starts to make more sense.


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User currently offlineTimf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 969 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1553 times:
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The only problem is GoGo isn't going to work on routes to HNL either. They would have to go with a satellite-based internet service in order to cover over-water segments. The LiveTV system at least has pre-recorded content that can still be viewed while out of range of the satellites.

User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3079 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1530 times:



Quoting Timf (Reply 17):

The only problem is GoGo isn't going to work on routes to HNL either. They would have to go with a satellite-based internet service in order to cover over-water segments. The LiveTV system at least has pre-recorded content that can still be viewed while out of range of the satellites.



Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 16):



There is a discussion in another thread speculating about CO using the ex-ATA ETOPS 753's on HNL routes. Since LiveTV doesn't work on those routes, the Internet alternative starts to make more sense.

Ok-quick question about LiveTV, what will they do with the CMI aircraft, I know they are rotated into the CMI system, will they leave LiveTV off of 9 aircraft so they fly to Micronesia?



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User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16866 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1518 times:



Quoting USAirALB (Reply 18):
Ok-quick question about LiveTV, what will they do with the CMI aircraft, I know they are rotated into the CMI system, will they leave LiveTV off of 9 aircraft so they fly to Micronesia?

The Air Mike aircraft stay in the Micronesian division, they don't rotate back to the States. They have subtle differences, including signage/emergency signage that are in English and Japanese.



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User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2634 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1499 times:



Quoting Timf (Reply 17):
The only problem is GoGo isn't going to work on routes to HNL either. They would have to go with a satellite-based internet service in order to cover over-water segments. The LiveTV system at least has pre-recorded content that can still be viewed while out of range of the satellites.

The same would hold true for 738/739ER aircraft regarding Live TV, which will be installed on all these aircraft. Prerecoreded content and movies are just fine. If the 753 flew on Hawaii, the internet would not be available to buy or use. No big deal.


User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5438 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1440 times:



Quoting Timf (Reply 17):
The only problem is GoGo isn't going to work on routes to HNL either.

Sorry, I figured GoGo would be satellite-based. So now my theory for why CO is doing this has to be that GoGo offers CO a bigger cut of the fee.



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