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UA IAD-GRU - Cancelled Today And Tomorrow - Why?  
User currently offlineTonytifao From Brazil, joined Mar 2005, 1011 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 8249 times:

UA has cancelled IAD-GRU today and tomorrow. Is this in antecipation of a lot of snow?

Can anyone help me with this information? My sister is on the flight tomorrow. She continues on to CNF on JJ. I was wondering if they are willing to put her on MCO-MIA-CNF (AA) which is the flight I'm on on the 20th.

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User currently offlineContrails From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1829 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 8139 times:



Quoting Tonytifao (Thread starter):
s this in anticipation of a lot of snow?

It could be. We're expecting 6-12 inches, depending on which forecast you believe. Airlines could cancel flights today to avoid having planes stranded later.

I'm not sure MIA is a good option, as they have been having delays there due to thunderstorms. Does AA have anything to GRU out of DFW? How about CO via IAH?

I hate to see this storm taking shape the weekend before Christmas. It's lousy timing.

Good luck to you and your sister.



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24361 posts, RR: 47
Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 8093 times:

Well United has a travel advisory for DCA, IAD, BWI and PHL on the 19th and 20th due to anticipated Snow.


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User currently offlineJeffb77w From Dominican Republic, joined Dec 2009, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 7939 times:

yeap here in the north eat there is a big storm coming tonigh that would affect the north east from tonight to sunday morning!!!!accumulation will be between 10 to 14 inches of snow

User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 599 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 7647 times:

IAD is going to get hammered, and UA is canceling TONS of flights in anticipation of the heavy snow.

User currently offlineFlyIGuy From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1028 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 7571 times:



Quoting PWMRamper (Reply 5):
IAD is going to get hammered, and UA is canceling TONS of flights in anticipation of the heavy snow.

We have been told as of now that out of all the mainline flights that only 17 have been / scheduled to fly and the rest have been cancelled. 897 to NRT is one of them, I don't know any of the others but im sure they will be 777 or 767 routes...I'm sure most if not all the express routes will be cancelled as well.

Just my 0.02



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User currently offlineAirborne1 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 7320 times:

Dubai cancel also last night from dubai. Maybe my dubai flight will be cancel also on 20 to iad..

User currently offlineJHCRJ700 From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 7250 times:

Heres hoping my Sunday evening flight from Houston to Baltimore isn't cancelled.  crossfingers 
I've been in Europe for three months. I'm ready to come home.



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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 7204 times:



Quoting FlyIGuy (Reply 5):
We have been told as of now that out of all the mainline flights that only 17 have been / scheduled to fly and the rest have been cancelled.

I'd be curious to hear which 17 were the lucky ones!


User currently offlineSkyhigh777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 6923 times:

Just saw the news and they're increasing the snow totals to be somewhere between 15-25 inches here in the DC area...I'm sure there will be ZERO flights going out tomorrow with 2 feet of snow having to be plowed around.


Prepare for take-off.
User currently offlineSkyhigh777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 6886 times:

My friend is supposed to be on UA IAD-Buenos Aires tonight (departing 10:07pm), but it's been cancelled. First flakes are starting to fall right now.


Prepare for take-off.
User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5487 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 6521 times:



Quoting Contrails (Reply 1):

I'm not sure MIA is a good option, as they have been having delays there due to thunderstorms

Supposed to be nice the next 4 days.


User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 599 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 6411 times:



Quoting FlyIGuy (Reply 5):
We have been told as of now that out of all the mainline flights that only 17 have been / scheduled to fly and the rest have been cancelled. 897 to NRT is one of them, I don't know any of the others but im sure they will be 777 or 767 routes...I'm sure most if not all the express routes will be cancelled as well.

Mmm. I saw they canceled our originating flight out of PWM for tomorrow at like 1300 today. Checked connections to see how they looked at every single flight was canceled. VERY few flights, if any will be going into or out of the DC area tomorrow...which means our AM INBOUND is almost for sure canceled as well.


...Yep, sure enough, AM inbound to PWM canceled, as well as our 1300 departure.

...Gonna be rebooking a LOT tomorrow. Oh joy.


User currently offlineFlyIGuy From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1028 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 6197 times:



Quoting RJpieces (Reply 8):
I'd be curious to hear which 17 were the lucky ones!

UPDATE: ALL FLIGHTS before 5pm have been cancelled in and outbound !!!

Flights start up after 5pm but i am sure that will change pending weather conditions.

I was only able to find 4 INT'L flights still running 918 & 924 to LHR and 916 & 932 to FRA, all others during the 5pm mega bank have been cancelled. I am not sure about the 9/10pm bank though.

Just my 0.02



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User currently offlineKL911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 5085 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 6085 times:

WTF? It only takes a single snow blazing truck and a salt sprying truck like in AMS to keep one runway open. How come Russian airports stay open all winter, and the US shuts down ?
Nothing against the US, or UK for that matter, they closed down airports as well.

Can't airport management invest in more snow control measures, like heated runways? In Europe most football fields have undersoil heating.



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User currently offlineAndyinPIT From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 320 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 6025 times:



Quoting PWMRamper (Reply 12):
...Gonna be rebooking a LOT tomorrow. Oh joy.

You guys should try and call dispatch and try to get an extra leg to ORD or something. We were able to pull that off a time or 2 in RIC. Just a thought


User currently offlineWestern727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 727 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 5933 times:



Quoting KL911 (Reply 14):
How come Russian airports stay open all winter, and the US shuts down ?

My guess is that it's because the Eastern Seaboard major airports don't get much snow during the winter as opposed to places like MSP, DTW, ORD, etc. I lived in MSP for several years and it was hard to close the airport. Snow removal and deicing equipment was (and still is, I'm sure) aplenty.



Jack @ AUS
User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11368 posts, RR: 59
Reply 17, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 5934 times:
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Quoting Tonytifao (Thread starter):
UA has cancelled IAD-GRU today and tomorrow. Is this in antecipation of a lot of snow?

They will have a lot of trouble to accomodate not only IAD-GRU but also IAD-GIG during the short period before Hollidays. And with busy flights between Brazil/US and US/Brazil, it seems that UA and operators at JFK may face problems.
Im on JFK-GIG next week, hope all will be okay.



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User currently offlineJHCRJ700 From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 5888 times:



Quoting Western727 (Reply 16):
My guess is that it's because the Eastern Seaboard major airports don't get much snow during the winter as opposed to places

This is true, especially for the mid-eastern coast. I know that whenever it snows in the Baltimore/DC area everyone runs around like mad and acts like they have never seen snow before. So this is part of it. We do get snow, but not regularly enough for people the be "used" to it like in other parts of the country, like mentioned above.  santahat 



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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 5800 times:



Quoting KL911 (Reply 14):
WTF? It only takes a single snow blazing truck and a salt sprying truck like in AMS to keep one runway open

Salt is not used at US airports because it is corrosive.



FLYi
User currently offlineAltairf28 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 5319 times:

I have a couple of questions about what happens during weather like this.

1. Large airport like IAD or CLT definitely haver de-icing equipment but what about mid-sized places like RIC or GSO? And to extrapolate it further. how about small regional airports like CHO or AGS (I don't think this storm will reach that far but it's snowed in Georgia before)? Do they have de-icing equipment, can they get it on a need basis or would they have to cancel all flights until the weather warmed up enough so that de-icing wasn't needed?
2 Every time statistics are released regarding things like mishandled bags and passenger complaints some media outlet will do a story about it. If the FAA gets complaints along the lines of "Airline X ruined my Christmas because they couldn't get us where we were going because it snowed" do they include all those when tallying customer satisfaction even though such delays usually aren't the airline's fault? And does the number of formal complaints lodged against an airline generally go up when said airline is affected by weather-related IRROPS (especilally this close to Christmas, when rebooking everyone in time could pose a challenge due to high load factors all next week, crews not where they need to be or out of hours, etc.)?



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User currently offlineFlyIGuy From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1028 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 5298 times:



Quoting Altairf28 (Reply 20):
Large airport like IAD or CLT definitely haver de-icing equipment but what about mid-sized places like RIC or GSO? And to extrapolate it further. how about small regional airports like CHO or AGS (I don't think this storm will reach that far but it's snowed in Georgia before)? Do they have de-icing equipment, can they get it on a need basis or would they have to cancel all flights until the weather warmed up enough so that de-icing wasn't needed?

They were deicing in SJC last week and SJC is a good sized airport and only DL & AS had deice equipment at the airport...



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User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9385 posts, RR: 52
Reply 22, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 4970 times:

UA operations made the decision to not have any RON aircraft overnight in IAD tonight. Also, flights in the evening have all been cancelled. While this does sound premature, it will help the schedule overall. By cancelling everything early and ahead of time, there will not be as many problems with crew legality and hours.

As soon as the snow lightens up and the runways and ramps are available, IAD will be at 100%. In past storms, UA has allowed flights to take delays as long as 4-5 or more hours. The result is airplanes scattered with flight crews that do not have adequate rest. The strategy this year is to cancel early and not take the long delays that strand airplanes and crews. It is a horrible time for this to happen since most flights in the UA system were overbooked today, but it should allow operations to catch up faster so that overall fewer flights are canceled.



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User currently offlineBrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4062 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 4609 times:



Quoting KL911 (Reply 14):
WTF? It only takes a single snow blazing truck and a salt sprying truck like in AMS to keep one runway open. How come Russian airports stay open all winter, and the US shuts down ?
Nothing against the US, or UK for that matter, they closed down airports as well.

You don't stay open when you are getting 3-4" of snow per hour, even in Canada we don't keep airports open with that much snow......oh wait a minute we do, but we are equipted to handle it except in Toronto where they call out the army when they get more then a foot of the white stuff.



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