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New Alaska 737-900 Disneyland Plane  
User currently offlineAAL151Heavy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 107 posts, RR: 4
Posted (5 years 1 week 4 days ago) and read 9610 times:
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I'm surprised no one had posted this...

Spirit of Disneyland II

http://www.alaskaair.com/as/www2/pro...p?CID=AS_HOME2L_20091218_AW_Disney

Looks like N318AS from the photos.

Ben

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User currently offline787seattle From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 641 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 9521 times:

It looked better on the -400, IMO. The winglets kind of ruin the livery.


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User currently offlineUAL757 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 807 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 9431 times:

I agree. The livery looks weird. I posted about this event today in PDX on Flyertalk about two weeks ago with no response. Heh, looks like someone was right  Smile I got the update on Twitter right on time before the 11AM PDX-LAX. I liked the old one better. Also, I've been on this 739 multiple times, and I like it because it has the midcabin lav so F seems a bit more private because A) full bulkheads and B) people not prancing through F getting denied haha.

User currently offlineTiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9388 times:



Quoting UAL757 (Reply 3):
I've been on this 739 multiple times, and I like it because it has the midcabin lav

- Is the mid-cabin lavatory standard on the 739 or is a customer, chosen option? I don't mind the livery but the winglets do take a little away from the fuselages. And I like winglets on planes too.

David



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User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4967 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9380 times:



Quoting UAL757 (Reply 3):
I agree. The livery looks weird.

I don't know... Doesn't look too different than the -400, IMO.



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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13767 posts, RR: 61
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9341 times:
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Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 4):
Quoting UAL757 (Reply 3):
I've been on this 739 multiple times, and I like it because it has the midcabin lav

- Is the mid-cabin lavatory standard on the 739 or is a customer, chosen option?

The mid-cabin lav is a customer option on both the 739 and the 738.

AS had mid-cabin lavs on the first 5 738s but when the orders were increased the decision was made to go with 3 rear-cabin lavs instead to make the 738s more marketable to charter operators when AS retires the type in 15 or so years.



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User currently offlineHatbutton From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1500 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 9108 times:

Quoting San747 (Reply 4):

I don't know... Doesn't look too different than the -400, IMO.

Because the -900 is longer, this livery has Pluto on it. The -400 didn't. If you look at old pics of the -400 you'll notice the characters look more like the mascots you'd see walking around Disneyland. These characters look more like what they do in Disney movies. More cartoonish.

[Edited 2009-12-19 11:12:09 by srbmod]

User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2448 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 9023 times:

I like it on this airframe, I don't know why they are doing two of them though? Also after looking at the pictures, I wonder how much it costs to paint this plane..


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User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8237 times:



Quoting SXDFC (Reply 7):
I don't know why they are doing two of them thou

Because Disney pays them to...  Big grin

Quoting Hatbutton (Reply 6):
Because the -900 is longer, this livery has Pluto on it. The -400 didn't. If you look at old pics of the -400 you'll notice the characters look more like the mascots you'd see walking around Disneyland. These characters look more like what they do in Disney movies. More cartoonish.

Well, I like it a lot... can't wait to get it in 1:400 or 1:200.



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User currently offlineB738FlyUIA From Kazakhstan, joined Dec 2009, 557 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7655 times:



Quoting SXDFC (Reply 7):

I agree and think that they do the nice job on that B738.

Maybe especially as there was in the news that Mr. Disney died just latly RIP


User currently offlineLAXLocal From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7382 times:

Does anyone know how much 300 gallons of paint weighs?

Just curious.


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User currently offlineHatbutton From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1500 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 6871 times:



Quoting LAXLocal (Reply 11):
Does anyone know how much 300 gallons of paint weighs?

A regular can of like house paint weighs about 10 pounds. Don't know if aircraft paint is the same though.


User currently offlinePeterSpence From United States of America, joined May 2009, 45 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 6692 times:



Quoting LAXLocal (Reply 11):
Does anyone know how much 300 gallons of paint weighs?

Well, for our fuel calculations (general aviation) they say 6lbs per gallon is the way to calculate... So, going by that, I would say 300 x 6 = 1800lbs. Unless in the paint aspect of life they weigh things differently, a gallon should be the same.



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User currently offlineLaxboeingman From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 624 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 6540 times:

I like it, and I like the blue background. I think that it is good that AS did that especially for Make-A-Wish. How come it was not greeted by fire trucks to spray water on it for its first flight? The last question that I have is: How much did Disney pay for that, or did AS do for fun?

laxboeingman



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User currently offlineC767P From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 893 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6343 times:

What date was N784AS retired?

User currently offlineBayAreaBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 262 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6181 times:



Quoting C767P (Reply 15):
What date was N784AS retired?

12/2/09


User currently offlineC767P From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 893 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6048 times:



Quoting BayAreaBlue (Reply 16):
12/2/09

Thank you. Is AS retiring any other -400s? Any other special schemes?

Looking at this new Spirit of Disneyland, it is hard to tell from the smaller pictures, but I like the looks of it not being so cramped.


User currently offlineUAL757 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 807 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5741 times:

Interesting fact: (By) the time the Disney characters made their final trip on Dec. 2, they’d logged nearly 12,475 flights covering some 10 million miles.

Quoting BayAreaBlue (Reply 16):
12/2/09

Just to elaborate...N784AS was originally scheduled for it's last flight on 11/30 but it was called in as a spare on 12/2. Its actual last flights were PSP-SFO and SFO-SEA.


User currently offlineBayAreaBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 262 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5129 times:



Quoting C767P (Reply 17):
Is AS retiring any other -400s? Any other special schemes?

A few more -400's are returning next year, but no other themed aircraft I am aware of.

Quoting UAL757 (Reply 18):
Just to elaborate...N784AS was originally scheduled for it's last flight on 11/30 but it was called in as a spare on 12/2. Its actual last flights were PSP-SFO and SFO-SEA.

You are correct on that one.


User currently offlineAirport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5075 times:

Just out of curiousity, anyone know why they introduced the plane in Portland, especially since there are currently no scheduled 737-900 flights that I'm aware of. It's cool to see that it was debuted there, but why not Seattle?

User currently offlinePeachair From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 367 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5016 times:



Quoting PeterSpence (Reply 13):
Well, for our fuel calculations (general aviation) they say 6lbs per gallon is the way to calculate...

A gallon of Jet A fuel is 6.7 lbs. I would be willing to be the paint is heavier than that - more like 8-10 lbs per gallon.


User currently offlineHatbutton From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1500 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4936 times:



Quoting Airport (Reply 20):
Just out of curiousity, anyone know why they introduced the plane in Portland, especially since there are currently no scheduled 737-900 flights that I'm aware of. It's cool to see that it was debuted there, but why not Seattle?

Because the first flight carried 3 children from the Make A Wish Foundation of Oregon to Disneyland. They arranged for them to be on the flight so it only made sense to have the aircraft leave from PDX instead of bring the kids and their families up to SEA and then leave from there.

Quoting Laxboeingman (Reply 14):
I like it, and I like the blue background. I think that it is good that AS did that especially for Make-A-Wish. How come it was not greeted by fire trucks to spray water on it for its first flight? The last question that I have is: How much did Disney pay for that, or did AS do for fun?

Probably didn't get the spray because it was replacing the old Disney plane. The only reason the other one was retired was because the aircraft's lease was up. Or else it would still be painted that way.

I'm pretty sure the paint job is a joint venture because of AS's relationship with Disney. AS has a lot of travel packages to Disneyland including "Kids fly free" campaigns. So I imagine both companies split the bill. Just a guess.


User currently offlineLAXLocal From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4917 times:



Quoting Peachair (Reply 21):
A gallon of Jet A fuel is 6.7 lbs. I would be willing to be the paint is heavier than that - more like 8-10 lbs per gallon.

Yes. According to some on Yahoo Answers, depending on the type of paint, around 9-10 lbs per gallon. Pretty significant if you think about it, 3000lbs of weight. And that's just on a 739. A lot of wasted mail/cargo space. Can't even imagine how much paint a a/c/ like Qantas Wunala Dreaming must take.

LAXLocal



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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5951 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4884 times:
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Quoting Hatbutton (Reply 21):
I'm pretty sure the paint job is a joint venture because of AS's relationship with Disney. AS has a lot of travel packages to Disneyland including "Kids fly free" campaigns. So I imagine both companies split the bill. Just a guess.

AS does a lot with Disneyland. I'm a little surprised they don't have packages to Disneyworld considering does fly to MCO.


User currently offlineThreeIfByAir From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 712 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (5 years 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4737 times:

Just rode 318AS back from ORD in October. The interiors on the -900s seem to be showing some age - I miss the adjustable headrests from the -800s.

Anyone know how long it took to get the new paint job and where it was done?


25 Hawaiian717 : The majority of AS's operations are on the west coast, so it makes sense for them to focus their efforts at Disneyland, which is going to involve a l
26 JetBlue : I saw N318AS taxi by this evening at ORD, it looked great! =) jetBlue
27 FXramper : Amazing and love the livery on AS bird.
28 Hatbutton : Usually takes a couple days if I remember and it is done at PAE.
29 Alexinwa : When did AS winglet the -900's? Or is it only this plane?
30 Post contains links BooDog : Most were retrofitted in 2008. http://www.aviationpartnersboeing.co...s/pdf/news/07.11.15_APB_Alaska.pdf
31 EA CO AS : All the -900s were fitted with winglets except the first three aircraft due to the wingtips not being reinforced to support them.
32 AlexInWa : Thanks for the update
33 UAL757 : What are the tail numbers for those specific AC?
34 Arcrftlvr : Any reason why the aircraft flew into LAX versus SNA, which is much closer to Disneyland? If I remember correctly, during the original Spirit of Disne
35 Gmcc : AS, as far as I know, only brings -700, -800, and -400 into SNA. Probably could not get 737-900 out without tripping the noise monitors and then rece
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