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Big News From NW: SEA-KIX Suspended!?  
User currently offlineMason From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 749 posts, RR: 1
Posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2010 times:

Northwest Airlines will suspend its four weekly non-stops from SEA to KIX (Osaka) at the end of September. These flights were operated by DC-10-30 aircraft. I do not understand this move. Northwest cited poor economic performance as the main reason for the suspension. There is a huge market for this flight. The problem is that NW charges so much for the flight that most people fly United out of SFO or connect in NRT. NW is operating this flight with the DC-10, which is very costly to fly at this point. Perhaps by putting a newer aircraft such as the 747-400 or mabye A-330 on this route, NW could bring prices back down from the stratosphere and do well on this currently uncontested route. I urge NW to recondisder this move. First, NW drops SEA-HKG, then Boeing moves, now this. Any thoughts?

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User currently offlineAcvitale From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 922 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1918 times:

Yup,

If you live in Seattle life is gonna get a little tougher.

Microsoft down. Boeing out. Now Northwest pulls KIX.

The sky is falling!

I suggest a move to Bora Bora immediately!


User currently offlineMason From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 749 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1911 times:

At least the Mariners are doing well, best record in baseball!

User currently offlineGOT From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 1912 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1908 times:

Maybe they will re-open the route when they get their A330? Hope so.

GOT



Just like birdwatching - without having to be so damned quiet!
User currently offlineTravelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3556 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1894 times:

Not only are they suspending SEA-KIX, but according to USA Today, they are suspending KIX-KUL, and KIX-(someplace in South Korea that starts with a "K").

User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1886 times:

KIX-KUL, and KIX-KHH (Kaosiung, TAIWAN...not Korea), as well as SEA-KIX are being suspended...

"There is a huge market for this flight"...so that's why NW wasn't making money...okay...

F L Y 7 7 7 U A L



User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1875 times:

forgot an "h"...should be "Kaohsiung"

User currently offlineTennisace From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1867 times:

Too bad to hear that NWA is cutting that route. You'd think they would be building up their SEA gateway. Some of the traffic will now probably go via YVR as Air Canada has daily non-stop to Osaka.

User currently offlineJonPaulGeoRngo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1860 times:

According the Wall Street Journal (10/30/00), ".

"For U.S. and other foreign airlines, the higher landing fees at Kansai Airport are making it hard to add new flights." says Robert Lamansky (NW's governmental relations director based in Toyko). He said Northwest may cancel some of its six daily Kansai flights.

Sounds like this decision has been months in the making.

Regards


User currently offlineJohnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2601 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1847 times:

Alas, the ultimate irony -- you build a brand, spanking new airport as the next "Gateway to _______ (insert region of world)", yet it's so expensive that airlines drop flights to your new "Gateway." At least it looks pretty.

User currently offlineFlyguy1 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1743 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1843 times:

This will make it harder for the Japanese tourists to see Ichiro Sad


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User currently offlineFrequentflyer5 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1839 times:

Anyone have the actual cost to land a wide-body in KIX?

User currently offlineMason From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 749 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1800 times:

My original point was that perhaps in addition to the high landing fees at KIX, the DC-10 was too costly to operate on this flight, and NW could not offer competitive fares. I have also noticed this from SEA to HNL. On this route, NW operates two daily DC-10s, but most passengers choose to fly UA out of SFO due to their cheaper fares, including me. Mabye, as GOT said, they will resume this route once the A330s come on line. I thought NW was expanding their SEA gateway, not shrinking it?!

User currently offline747buff From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1800 times:

NW seems to cut a lot of int'l routes that are/were doing well. For example: LAX-SYD, MSP-KIX, MSP/SEA-HKG, etc.


At Eastern, we earn our wings every day!
User currently offlineRed Panda From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2000, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1783 times:

I would be very scared to fly on DC-10 if I had to go across pacific. I just don't like the sound of the engines.

regards,
r panda


User currently offlineFavre From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 595 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1778 times:

THERE WILL BE NO NWA A330'S TO ASIA OR HNL...ONLY TO THE ATLANTIC REGION...AND AS FAR AS THE FARES GO EVERYONE IS GENERALLY WITHIN A FEW DOLLARS OF EACH OTHER ON ANY GIVEN SEGMENT...


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User currently offlineGunfighter 6 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2001, 404 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1767 times:

Favre: Please don't use so many caps.
very Anoying.  Pissed



User currently offlineVirginA340 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1761 times:

I thought A330s didn't have the range to fly SEA-KIX or SEA-HKG? Wouldn't they have to stop somewhere in between for fuel? Are the yields between these destiantions that low to where they can't use a 747. I think the prices can drop if the got ride of the 10 and went to a 747-400. A much more economical craft in maintinance, fuel and more millage to the gallon.


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