Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
WestJet New Service Routes  
User currently offlineFlytravel From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 873 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3674 times:

From last week:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/WestJe...outes-cnw-2027457073.html?x=0&.v=2

On the YYZ-ACY flight which was made year-round, is it a mere ACY casino resort contract to bring those from Canada to stay at a hotel/gamble in Atlantic City? Or is it airport subsidy perhaps to be for Philadelphia and NJ. This has to be one of the least expensive East Coast US to Toronto commercial flights around.

12 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1729 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3601 times:

Well, WestJet is doing wonders on its LAS routes...So maybe they are replicating that to ACY.

These flights is what the US-Canada market needs. Some good competition and good cheap prices. FLights between Western Canada and LAS, PHX, LAS, PSP are eo cheap these days thanks to WJ.

So, whatever it is, whether it is subisidy by the airport, or from the casinos, I wish WJ the best of luck


User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5926 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3536 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!



Quoting Yegbey01 (Reply 1):
These flights is what the US-Canada market needs. Some good competition and good cheap prices. FLights between Western Canada and LAS, PHX, LAS, PSP are eo cheap these days thanks to WJ.

Is it still really cheap even with all of the fees and charges?


User currently offlineWJA73G From Canada, joined Jun 2004, 171 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3521 times:

what fees and charges?

User currently offlineJetSetter629 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3289 times:

ACY to YYZ for $127 USD. That sure beats the $400+ out of Philadelphia!

User currently offlineHeathrow From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 979 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3236 times:



Quoting JetSetter629 (Reply 4):
ACY to YYZ for $127 USD. That sure beats the $400+ out of Philadelphia!

Is that a promotional fare? Usually transborder is more expensive. Great news for WS!


User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5926 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3186 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!



Quoting WJA73G (Reply 3):
what fees and charges?

Everytime I look at fares between Abbotsford and Edmonton, it's $99 with about $89 in fees.


User currently offlineJetSetter629 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3145 times:

Does anyone know why the ACY route is not bookable past May 1st? It was scheduled to end in May but then went year round...

[Edited 2009-12-23 07:20:14]

User currently offlineFlytravel From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2875 times:

Quoting JetSetter629 (Reply 4):

ACY to YYZ for $127 USD. That sure beats the $400+ out of Philadelphia!

In addition to being a lot cheaper than PHL-YYZ, it's cheaper than BWI-YYZ.

I think those in Northern NJ and further north would likely just drive up to Toronto, or take bus from NYC, if to avoid expensive air fare though.

Even if ACY via airport or industry provided some subsidy, I still wonder why ACY was chosen over say BWI. Baltimore/BWI would be able to provide much more volume (via Southwest and AirTran connections), Amtrak and immediate greater metropolitan area. Also, Baltimore has the cruises, which could attract Canadians if interested. The ACY deal must have been sweetened somewhere I can only speculate. Do the pax from Toronto know what the weather in Atlantic City is in the winter?

[Edited 2009-12-23 14:29:48 by flytravel]

User currently offlineNkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2673 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2817 times:

The casinos are providing 2night to 7night packages avaialable thru WestJet vacations... AFAIK, there are no airport subsidies, except possibly advertising.

The flights, interestingly enough, have a very high Jewish ridership on them... the flight the other night had close to a hundred Hacidic (spelling) Jews on board. I am pretty sure they are not going to the casinos... I didn't realize that Toronto had such a big Jewish population.

It's good to see the flights go year-round... I think they will do very well in the summer.



I have no association with Spirit Airlines
User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1729 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2769 times:



Quoting Flytravel (Reply 8):
still wonder why ACY was chosen over say BWI. Baltimore/BWI would be able to provide much more volume (via Southwest and AirTran connections), Amtrak and immediate greater metropolitan area. Also, Baltimore has the cruises, which could attract Canadians if interested

My guess is that BWI would eventually be served by WestJet, once the code sharing with WN goes into effect. But you realize that BWI is served by AC and the other two airports in the DC area (DCA and IAD) offer plenty of service to YOW, YUL and YYZ. So AC/United could easily bring a fare ware and will kill WestJet on the route (like what happened to WJ when they served LGA) because WJ doesn't have the right equipment to compete. I live in the DC area and would love to see prices come down on the DC-Toronto.

I would say that BWI is a prime destination for WestJet but it might be a year or two before it is served.


User currently offlineFlytravel From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2392 times:

Quoting JetSetter629 (Reply 7):

Does anyone know why the ACY route is not bookable past May 1st? It was scheduled to end in May but then went year round...

June and beyond is bookable on expedia, orbitz, etc. and if one calls westjet. But it's not available on westjet.com! westjet.com runs a date check which pulls up the message stating it's out of season. I spoke to a WestJet representative about this - hopefully the issue can be fixed, or it'd be a mystery why there were 0 reservations via the website!

Fortunately, when using sites like orbitz and choosing leave the city as PHL, and selecting include alternate airports in advanced, ACY's WestJet flight is the first one on the result list.

[Edited 2009-12-29 16:04:56 by flytravel]

User currently offlineJBAirwaysFan From United States of America, joined May 2009, 1027 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2373 times:



Quoting Flytravel (Reply 8):
I still wonder why ACY was chosen over say BWI. Baltimore/BWI would be able to provide much more volume (via Southwest and AirTran connections),

Technically, though not a hub, ACY has AirTran too.



In Loving Memory of Casey Edward Falconer; May 16, 1992-May 9, 2012
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Westjet New Cities & Routes posted Wed Jan 17 2007 17:20:12 by Salomon
WestJet Sched Changes And New Service To P.E.I.! posted Thu Apr 21 2005 19:53:20 by TheHangarCat
New Varig Routes And Service Changes posted Thu Jun 20 2002 16:01:55 by AirafriqueDKR
Westjet's New 737-700's Used On What Routes? posted Thu Dec 13 2001 04:18:40 by Likesplanes
CanJet Gets More Planes, WestJet New Routes posted Wed Nov 8 2000 19:31:42 by AC183
F9 Announces New Service To FAI posted Thu Dec 17 2009 04:47:33 by NZblue
New FR Routes From CRL And NRN posted Tue Dec 8 2009 08:28:04 by Pe@rson
New Service At EVV? posted Mon Nov 30 2009 12:01:57 by Csturdiv
New Easyjet Routes posted Tue Nov 24 2009 03:04:44 by Humberside
5 New FR Routes From BRS, 2 From LPL posted Sat Nov 21 2009 13:42:34 by Pe@rson