On the YYZ-ACY flight which was made year-round, is it a mere ACY casino resort contract to bring those from Canada to stay at a hotel/gamble in Atlantic City? Or is it airport subsidy perhaps to be for Philadelphia and NJ. This has to be one of the least expensive East Coast US to Toronto commercial flights around.
Wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5766 posts, RR: 5 Reply 2, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3174 times:
Quoting Yegbey01 (Reply 1): These flights is what the US-Canada market needs. Some good competition and good cheap prices. FLights between Western Canada and LAS, PHX, LAS, PSP are eo cheap these days thanks to WJ.
Is it still really cheap even with all of the fees and charges?
Flytravel From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 710 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (3 years 12 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2513 times:
Quoting JetSetter629 (Reply 4):
ACY to YYZ for $127 USD. That sure beats the $400+ out of Philadelphia!
In addition to being a lot cheaper than PHL-YYZ, it's cheaper than BWI-YYZ.
I think those in Northern NJ and further north would likely just drive up to Toronto, or take bus from NYC, if to avoid expensive air fare though.
Even if ACY via airport or industry provided some subsidy, I still wonder why ACY was chosen over say BWI. Baltimore/BWI would be able to provide much more volume (via Southwest and AirTran connections), Amtrak and immediate greater metropolitan area. Also, Baltimore has the cruises, which could attract Canadians if interested. The ACY deal must have been sweetened somewhere I can only speculate. Do the pax from Toronto know what the weather in Atlantic City is in the winter?
Nkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2592 posts, RR: 6 Reply 9, posted (3 years 12 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2455 times:
The casinos are providing 2night to 7night packages avaialable thru WestJet vacations... AFAIK, there are no airport subsidies, except possibly advertising.
The flights, interestingly enough, have a very high Jewish ridership on them... the flight the other night had close to a hundred Hacidic (spelling) Jews on board. I am pretty sure they are not going to the casinos... I didn't realize that Toronto had such a big Jewish population.
It's good to see the flights go year-round... I think they will do very well in the summer.
Yegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1712 posts, RR: 3 Reply 10, posted (3 years 12 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2407 times:
Quoting Flytravel (Reply 8): still wonder why ACY was chosen over say BWI. Baltimore/BWI would be able to provide much more volume (via Southwest and AirTran connections), Amtrak and immediate greater metropolitan area. Also, Baltimore has the cruises, which could attract Canadians if interested
My guess is that BWI would eventually be served by WestJet, once the code sharing with WN goes into effect. But you realize that BWI is served by AC and the other two airports in the DC area (DCA and IAD) offer plenty of service to YOW, YUL and YYZ. So AC/United could easily bring a fare ware and will kill WestJet on the route (like what happened to WJ when they served LGA) because WJ doesn't have the right equipment to compete. I live in the DC area and would love to see prices come down on the DC-Toronto.
I would say that BWI is a prime destination for WestJet but it might be a year or two before it is served.
Flytravel From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 710 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2030 times:
Quoting JetSetter629 (Reply 7):
Does anyone know why the ACY route is not bookable past May 1st? It was scheduled to end in May but then went year round...
June and beyond is bookable on expedia, orbitz, etc. and if one calls westjet. But it's not available on westjet.com! westjet.com runs a date check which pulls up the message stating it's out of season. I spoke to a WestJet representative about this - hopefully the issue can be fixed, or it'd be a mystery why there were 0 reservations via the website!
Fortunately, when using sites like orbitz and choosing leave the city as PHL, and selecting include alternate airports in advanced, ACY's WestJet flight is the first one on the result list.