this got me thinking....
a) wow that's a big bad delay!
b) what's the longest delay FR have ever had
c) what's the longest ever delay on any flight of any airline ever>
i appreciate your responses,
Merry Christmas,
Jamie
Cross my heart and hope to fly, f**k right off into the middle of the sky... that would be my ecstasy
Joost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3131 posts, RR: 4 Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks ago) and read 7898 times:
Quoting Jamies80085 (Reply 2):
i would imagine they have, does anyone know the EU regulations regarding a delay of such length?
Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 1):
I can only imagine how well FR would take care of its passengers in such a situation....NOT. Wonder if they handed out any meal vouchers at all.
When delays are caused by extreme weather, there is no right for compensation. By article 14 of the EU-regulation:
Quote: (14) As under the Montreal Convention, obligations on operating air carriers should be limited or excluded in cases where an event has been caused by extraordinary circumstances which could not have been avoided even if all reasonable measures had been taken. Such circumstances may, in particular, occur in cases of political instability, meteorological conditions incompatible with the operation of the flight concerned, security risks, unexpected flight safety shortcomings and strikes that affect the operation of an operating air carrier.
Looking at what happened in the UK, France, Germany, Netherlands and Belgium last week, this qualifies easily for adverse meteorological conditions.
Did all the thousands of people stranded in Frankfurt, Heathrow, CDG, AMS, etc. got meal vouchers and hotel vouchers?
Personally I think that this is what travel insurance is intended for.
AirNz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7618 times:
Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 1): I can only imagine how well FR would take care of its passengers in such a situation....NOT.
So you are thus commenting on a scenario based only on your imagination, without facts or first hand knowledge seeing as you're not there. As EU law does not provide compensation for delay due to adverse weather I'd appreciate your imagination on what all other carriers will be doing?
Alm1 From Lithuania, joined Oct 2008, 61 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 7372 times:
There are some brain dead pilots out there. Yesterday Ryanair flight Dublin-Kaunas diverted to Gdansk which is more than 400 km away (and due to very poor roads in Poland in that direction that will mean about 10 hours bus journey for pax to get to destination). All other FR flights diverted to Vilnius which is only 90 km away on motorway.
Kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 11991 posts, RR: 36 Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7220 times:
Quoting Alm1 (Reply 5): There are some brain dead pilots out there. Yesterday Ryanair flight Dublin-Kaunas diverted to Gdansk which is more than 400 km away
There may have been operational reasons for doing that; possibly the crew were in contact with FR's operational base.
I don't know what the record is, and Jetfuel's record would be hard to beat (though certainly an experience I'd like - if you have to be stuck somewhere for three days, HNL is a good place for it) but I was at LGW last night, on my way home (to DUB). A Ghana International flight was due to leave at 11.25 yesterday morning and kept being put back; when I left it had been rescheduled to 23.10; don't know if it actually got out.
Myt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 74 Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7134 times:
I had a 23 hour delay with FR at MAN earlier this year when it was snowing at DUB. Technically my flight was cancelled and the next flight to get away from MAN to DUB was the one I was rebooked on to, the next day. Does that count?
Quoting AirNz (Reply 4): As EU law does not provide compensation for delay due to adverse weather
That's the one even though they did eventually provide compensation to me once I quoted Article 7 of EU261 2004 and explained it to the Servisair staff.
Acelanzarote From Spain, joined Nov 2005, 786 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 7064 times:
The flight is operating this morning, reason it did not operate
yesterday was the late arrival of the Plane at BOH to work the
service. Passingers here where offered the option of an hotel
for the night in Arrecife which seemed very good
of Ryanair to me, Cannot comment what happened at
BOH with the outbound passingers...
Say what you like about Ryanair, at least they
try to operate the flight even if very late...
cheers
from the Island with sun and great photo's.. Why not visit Lanzarote
Glom From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2803 posts, RR: 10 Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6876 times:
I don't think the lack of meal vouchers etc is really a criticism of FR. It is a LCC after all. Implicit is that your ticket does not include those sorts of things. Their fees racket is more than enough of a club to beat them with.
Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 18883 posts, RR: 54 Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6687 times:
Quoting Acelanzarote (Reply 9): Passingers here where offered the option of an hotel
for the night in Arrecife which seemed very good
of Ryanair to me,
Really? Sounds good.
Quoting Acelanzarote (Reply 9): Say what you like about Ryanair, at least they
try to operate the flight even if very late...
Indeed.
Obviously a very long delay. However, at least passengers aboard the aircraft will get home for Christmas, whereas if it had been cancelled - and think of the hundreds of flights from the
UK over the past few days that didn't operate due to the weather - they might not have. So,
clearly bad in itself but in the scheme of things it could have clearly been far worse...
"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
Planesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4096 posts, RR: 12 Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6571 times:
Thomson had a flight from La Palma to Gatwick due in 19:10 on Monday which arrived at around 16:15 yesterday (Wednesday).
Fabo From Slovakia, joined Aug 2005, 1111 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6489 times:
Quoting Glom (Reply 10): I don't think the lack of meal vouchers etc is really a criticism of FR. It is a LCC after all. Implicit is that your ticket does not include those sorts of things.
What is it with you people? Obviously, my ticket would not include any meal on board etc.; but it still includes travel at a specified, preselected time. Meal, and possibly hotel, vouchers are compensation for failure to depart on time.
We would issue small meal (usually a filled small baguette, wafer and small juice box) after 2 hours, and would order hot meal+half litre water bottles if the delay of 5hrs+ was imminent. Not sure on hotels, that went beyound us as an airport handling services.
The light at the end of tunnel turn out to be a lighted sing saying NO EXIT
Airbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4066 posts, RR: 51 Reply 16, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6275 times:
Quoting Joost (Reply 3): Did all the thousands of people stranded in Frankfurt, Heathrow, CDG, AMS, etc. got meal vouchers and hotel vouchers?
I know that it took very long before KL/AF at AMS started to distribute meal/drinks to stranded pax at AMS last week. So long, that the airport authority started to distribute (which was basically not their duty)
Quoting Acelanzarote (Reply 9): Passingers here where offered the option of an hotel
for the night in Arrecife which seemed very good
of Ryanair to me,
Very good! Hats off for FR.
btw, I was stranded once by Vueling (Spanish LCC) at BCN, due to snow at AMS. I was booked in a 4* hotel incl. meal buffet and water/wine included, + rebooked on next days flight.
"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
Brilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 3271 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5278 times:
Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 1): I can only imagine how well FR would take care of its passengers in such a situation....NOT. Wonder if they handed out any meal vouchers at all.
Nah, they would just surcharge them for using the plane longer then they were supposed to.
LHR380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5070 times:
Got to LGW at 9 for an 11 o'clock FR flight to DUB, ended up getting out of LGW at about 2100 on BA after FR canx the prev 2 flights. Got fed up with the 1, yes 1 ticket desk agent they had working for them and hopped over to the North Terminal and got on Standby for BA to Dublin. Which of course was delayed as well. Love snow!!!!
Just had a 8 and a bit hour delay with QF in SYD last month.
PagoFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 81 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4856 times:
Back in 1977-78 we were visting family and friends down PPG. A CO DC-10 crashed on take-off in ORD. CO grounded the DC-10's and we were stuck in PPG for about a week. The CO agent in PPG was a freind so he made sure CO picked up our hotel and food tab.
Finally, PA diverted a 747 from PPT to pick us up.
YZFOO7F From Canada, joined May 2005, 157 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2723 times:
Quoting Jamies80085 (Thread starter): c) what's the longest ever delay on any flight of any airline ever>
I'm not sure of the longest on record, but I used to work for Zoom Airlines and we would regularly have delays exceeding 24 hours. The longest I can remember was 27 hours from scheduled to actual departure time. Worse than that however was the time we had a 22 hour delay and would not just postpone the flight, but rather wanted to wait for the plane to be fixed. This meant people were stranded at the airport for all that time. Needless to say, they were furious. They even protested with signs and all. It made the news.
Dallasnewark From Estonia, joined Nov 2005, 482 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2269 times:
Quoting AirNz (Reply 4): So you are thus commenting on a scenario based only on your imagination, without facts or first hand knowledge seeing as you're not there. As EU law does not provide compensation for delay due to adverse weather I'd appreciate your imagination on what all other carriers will be doing?
I can give you some facts about how miserable Air Tran is during one round-trip that I took with them. I have not seen the level of unprofessionalism anywhere else.
Pilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 10 Reply 25, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2078 times:
Quoting Jamies80085 (Thread starter): c) what's the longest ever delay on any flight of any airline ever>
I've had to deal with a 24-hour delay twice this year. Usually it's due to a mechanical and they can't get the part until the next day.
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