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User currently offlineSoxfan From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 870 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5158 times:

Is US the only scheduled airline to offer domestic (US) widebody service to SJU? Is there high demand from PHL/CLT, or is it so that US can rotate the aircraft from Transatlantic flights instead of having them just sit on the ground? Could they fly them to other destinations instead (e.g. BOS, JFK, etc.) or is the demand not as high?


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User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6642 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5094 times:



Quoting Soxfan (Thread starter):
Is US the only scheduled airline to offer domestic (US) widebody service to SJU? Is there high demand from PHL/CLT, or is it so that US can rotate the aircraft from Transatlantic flights instead of having them just sit on the ground? Could they fly them to other destinations instead (e.g. BOS, JFK, etc.) or is the demand not as high?

DL often has a 763 on ATL-SJU, but not always. AA once had a huge A300 operation at SJU until they retired the type.



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User currently offlinePhatfarmlines From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1363 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5092 times:



Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 1):
DL often has a 763 on ATL-SJU, but not always. AA once had a huge A300 operation at SJU until they retired the type.

AA will operate the 763's during peak periods on MIA-SJU. I think the days of widebodies on JFK-SJU are done, unless minority owner LH decides to give B6 some 330's.


User currently offlineBasilFawlty From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 1331 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5070 times:

Ryan Intl. Airlines sometimes sends a 763 to SJU on charter flights.


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User currently offlineJmbweeboy From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 266 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4980 times:

When I think of the times 30 years ago when there would be more Eastern L1011s than you could possibly count with a reasonably good share of AA DC10s and Pan Am 747's!

Those were the days at SJU!

JMBWEEBOY


User currently offlineMadDogJT8D From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 402 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4860 times:

I have personally flown on TWA 747's and 762's as well as AA A300's to SJU several times. My how things have changed in just 10 or 12 years...

User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4840 times:

CO has the largest aircraft to SJU, CO flies from EWR to SJU with their 757-300s which seat 216 compared to US Airways 767-200s which seat 204.


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User currently offlineCoewr2587 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 607 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4840 times:

CO used to use the 767-400 daily. Now its used with the 757-300 and other narrow bodies. Sometimes you'll see them use wide bodies, especially around the holidays.


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User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6642 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4797 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 6):
CO has the largest aircraft to SJU, CO flies from EWR to SJU with their 757-300s which seat 216 compared to US Airways 767-200s which seat 204.

Nope, DL does with their 262 passenger domestic 763s.



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User currently offlineB707forever From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 459 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4773 times:



Quoting Jmbweeboy (Reply 4):
When I think of the times 30 years ago when there would be more Eastern L1011s than you could possibly count with a reasonably good share of AA DC10s and Pan Am 747's!

Those were the days at SJU!

JMBWEEBOY

When I worked for AA in 1976 we only operated 747s to SJU! That's right folks, 747s from JFK-SJU. They were all turn arounds and I had many a lovely flight and some not so lovely on them.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4756 times:



Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 8):
Nope, DL does with their 262 passenger domestic 763s.

What schedules are you looking at?.. I'm looking at OAG and SKyguide and they show the following for DL to SJU:

ATL:
5-7 757-200s

JFK:
2 737-800s



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4754 times:



Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 1):
DL often has a 763 on ATL-SJU, but not always.

For regularly scheduled flights CO has the largest aircraft to SJU, the 757-300 from EWR.



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User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6930 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4744 times:

the DL 763 from ATL occurs pretty regularly, IIRC...but the CO 753 is ALWAYS on EWR-SJU.

Does AA still operate SJU-LAX a few times weekly? Did they ever fly 763s on this route or just 757?



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User currently offlineBOACCunard From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4711 times:

I wouldn't be shocked to see AA put a 762 or 763 on JFK-SJU at some point.

In the past it was mostly the AB6 and before that the D10. I had the pleasure of flying JFK-SJU-JFK on AA's D10 in 1998, my last AA D10 flights. Also flew JFK-SJU in a TW L10 in 1996 and returned SJU-JFK in a 741. Finally, FF used to have scheduled 741 service JFK-SJU-JFK which I flew in 1993.



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User currently offlineFrostbite From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 396 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4580 times:

Vast majority of DL's services are with 757, but there are a few 763s per week. For example...as of Jan. 9 DL will operate a 763 twice weekly ATL-SJU RT, on Sat/Sun:

ATL-SJU
Dep 8:35a Arr 1:13p # 597 67 763
Eff. Jan. 9

Dep 2:15p Arr 5:22p #422 67 763
Eff. Jan. 9

Granted, this is a far cry from past years. I remember working an early morning L10 from ATL that originated the night before in LAX.


User currently offlineTristarcrazy From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 324 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4531 times:



Quoting Frostbite (Reply 14):

Granted, this is a far cry from past years. I remember working an early morning L10 from ATL that originated the night before in LAX

I flew on that 7am ATL-SJU L10 flight many times. All DL flights to SJU use to be a L10 and they also stopped in MIA on the ATL-SJU run until finally going nonstop sometime in the early 80's. I have more recently flown a DL 764 to SJU along with the 763.



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User currently offlineAlexInWa From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4531 times:

AA always had the largest precense of wide-wodies at SJU. From the 747 to DC10 to AB3 to the 767's.

EA ran AB3 and L10's

PA was mainly 727's

TW 747 or L10 mainly Sat and Sun service

DL nornally has a least 1 763 everyday right now. used to have 3 L10's.

Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 12):
Does AA still operate SJU-LAX a few times weekly? Did they ever fly 763s on this route or just 757?

Yes, and with a 757 now. I remember a 763 3 times weekly in the late 90's early 2000's. I'd have to check my timetables.



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User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6642 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4510 times:

I actually wouldn't be surprised if DL eventually uses the 753 on the ATL-SJU route. The 753 is a great aircraft for the route.


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User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3088 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4447 times:



Quoting Tristarcrazy (Reply 15):
I flew on that 7am ATL-SJU L10 flight many times. All DL flights to SJU use to be a L10 and they also stopped in MIA on the ATL-SJU run until finally going nonstop sometime in the early 80's.

DL also flew an L10 LAX-MSY-SJU.



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User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3171 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4311 times:

US flies the A333 with seating for 274 passengers.

Flight number is 1071.



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User currently offlineAeroflot001 From Argentina, joined Oct 2009, 412 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4295 times:

For me the main memories of the wide bodies at SJU has been the AA A300 which I have flown on to get here (I am in Puerto Rico for vacation at the moment) how I always hated them and now I miss them dearly. Nonreving to SJU from MIA has always been challenging but now it's hell with the fact that they are gone and the removal of many SJU flights. The 3 daily from FLL were particularly usefull in lightening the load from MIA. It started out with 2 daily 737 to 3 daily operated in the morning afternoon and evening. The A300 was put on the route just a few months before it was axed in the midday flight with the morning and evening services operated by 757. I hope FLL returns and I also hope that some 767 are put on the MIA route quick. For crying out loud this is not the route for 737.

User currently offlineBOACCunard From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4290 times:



Quoting USAirALB (Reply 19):
US flies the A333 with seating for 274 passengers.

That's a nice airplane for a short flight.

Of course, the A330 was originally designed for short- to medium-haul flying (to replace the A300).



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User currently offlineAs739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6194 posts, RR: 24
Reply 22, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4281 times:

Last I checked the CO 753 was not a widebody as the title of the thread was asking.


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4256 times:



Quoting As739x (Reply 22):
Last I checked the CO 753 was not a widebody as the title of the thread was asking.

Well some folks don't realize how big the 757-300s are, so I'm adding them to the discussion.



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User currently offlineJmbweeboy From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 266 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4231 times:

In the mid 1970's I recall well Pan Am dubbed its 747 JFK to SJU service "El Borincano" and it for a time featured live strolling Puerto Rican musicians in flight!

JMBWEEBOY


25 Viscount724 : In PA's April 29,1973 timetable they had roughly 17 daily departures from SJU - 3 747s, 9 707s, 5 727s. The 3 747s were all to JFK in addition to 2 7
26 1337Delta764 : Does anyone know if AA flew the 763 on MIA-SJU recently? A post in the thread says that AA uses the 763 on this route during peak travel season. Looki
27 Post contains links 71Zulu : Found some 763 and 772 flights, http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...9/history/20091213/1229Z/KMIA/TJSJ http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...9/hi
28 MadDogJT8D : AA used to have a 763 mixed in with the mostly A300 flying from JFK-SJU, it used to be scheduled as AA1635. Looks like AA has gone with all 757's on t
29 NYCAdvantage : Those were the good old days, PA, AA with 747 and EA with L1011 4X from JFK a day, incredible how times have changed, last time I did SJU on AA was o
30 Brandonfsu05 : Atleast from Philly I know the demand is high...MANY MANY people arriving from Europe connect in PHL to go on to SJU.
31 STT757 : Interesting US has a 767-200 scheduled for STT a couple days in December, it's been a while since STT had widebody service. I remember the days of lan
32 AA767400 : US holds that title with daily A333 PHL-SJU service. Their 333s seat 254 passengers. While CO's 753s seat a whooping 216, they still are not the larg
33 Phatfarmlines : In addition to 71Zulu's post, check random dates in March (peak due to spring break): AA 1297 MIA-SJU AA 1042 SJU-MIA
34 MSYPI7185 : Demand to SJU from CLT is high also and for many years have run a widebody on the route. On occasion it was sched with a narrowbody, but more often th
35 Aviationbuff08 : I know DL has the domestic 763 on the ATL-SJU on days when cruise traffic is heavy, so I don't believe its a scheduled flight. More along the lines o
36 Jimbobjoe : I'd love to see someone (as in someone other than me because I'm feeling lazy, lol) take a random week, say, in 1986, and figure out how many seats we
37 Soxfan : Slightly off-topic, does US activate IFE on their 762s and A330s for flights to/from SJU?
38 1337Delta764 : But it isn't rare at all. I don't think these 763s are last-minute upgauges. Looking at upcoming schedules, DL has a 763 on ATL-SJU at least every we
39 Chepos : Yep those were the days, when SJU would see up to 7 or more AA A300's on the ground at one point. Many times did I fly on A300's and DC-10's, II wish
40 STT757 : That's not in the schedules, US is showing 1 A320 and 2 767-200s between PHL-SJU. The largest aircraft currently "scheduled" to SJU is CO's 757-300s.
41 Post contains links STT757 : A CO 767-400 substituted for the regularly scheduled 757-300: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/COA466 Again the CO 757-300 is the largest regularly
42 1337Delta764 : Actually, DL's domestic 763s seat 262 passengers.
43 Post contains links Soxfan : FlightAware is showing that US 1071 PHL-SJU has been an A330 the past few days instead of a 762, perhaps just over the holiday weekend? I also though
44 MSYPI7185 : Yes they do, but the winter sched is when they try to do most heavy maint on the widebodies, so winter schedules see smaller aircraft than usual. Thi
45 AA767400 : Its in Sabre. Yes, you are correct, but it's not scheduled. It's just an upgrade on weekends.
46 DeltAirlines : It's scheduled on weekends. Not an upgrade that they just throw out there when they need it, but it's scheduled every single weekend and bookable wel
47 AA767400 : Fair enough. Sorry for getting your widget all worked it.
48 TAN FLYR : As a shipper of perishable commodities from the west coast to SJU, some by air, we sure would like to see AA schedule at least 1 widebody flight from
49 MAH4546 : When 787 and new 777 deliveries start in 2013 at AA, expect 763s to be more heavily used to the Caribbean.
50 Contrails15 : Lord knows we could use an A330 and we would fill it up with pax and cargo but thats not gonna happen.
51 PRAirbus : AA is concentrating its "tight" 767 capacity for short-haul/Caribbean markets (STI/SDQ/PAP/MGA/SJO) that require room for baggage/cargo. SJU-MIA could
52 September11 : Don't forget EA ran 747s to SJU!
53 Post contains links and images September11 : just a photo of 2 planes in SJU in the 1970s View Large View MediumPhoto © William W. Sierra
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