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787 ZA001 2nd Flight (KBFI Departure) 27DEC09  
User currently offlineFlyPBA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 431 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 18429 times:

Dreamliner ZA001 made its second flight today at 4:55PM PDT under the sun (finally). Note: This was the first time ever that a 787 took off from Boeing Field, Seattle, WA (KBFI)

here is a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_7YFTgdMyc

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User currently offlineTdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 18220 times:



Quoting FlyPBA (Thread starter):
Dreamliner ZA001 made its second flight today at 4:55PM PDT under the sun (finally).

2:50 PST (3:50 PDT) actually. At 4:55 PDT, it's getting pretty dark in Seattle at this time of year.

Tom.


User currently onlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4700 posts, RR: 38
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 18208 times:
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Quoting FlyPBA (Thread starter):
Dreamliner ZA001 made its second flight today

The flight testing goes full speed ahead.  Smile That is very nice to see and a good sign in my opinion. The first two flights apparently did not result in anything which possibly could hold up the flight testing program.  Smile


User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2689 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 17524 times:

The most important development is that the sun was out, can't wait to see some photos of her taking off and landing in the sun!

User currently offlineNycbjr From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 447 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 17290 times:

That is nice, I wonder what the results were.. maybe the pilots will write a blog?

I signed up for Flightaware alerts for BOE1, I was going to turn it off cause I get them for test flights of other planes (presumably customer testing), I was pleasantly surprised to get the alert for a 788, I was going to do a post but figured a million other anutters got the same notice lol.

Cheers!


User currently offlineBlackKnight From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 17175 times:

Flight-ware says the flight was diverted. It lasted only 1:50. Something turned them back early.


BK
User currently offlineTdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 17097 times:



Quoting Nycbjr (Reply 4):
That is nice, I wonder what the results were.. maybe the pilots will write a blog?

Based on how fast the last Boeing flight test blog got shut down, I suspect they only blog's we'll see are official Boeing ones.

Quoting BlackKnight (Reply 5):
Flight-ware says the flight was diverted.

Flightaware also said it was a KBFI-KPAE flight, when it was really KBFI-KBFI. It's only a diversion if you're looking at the wrong flight plan.

Quoting BlackKnight (Reply 5):
It lasted only 1:50. Something turned them back early.

Darkness would be my guess.

Tom.


User currently offlineBA84 From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 418 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 17022 times:
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Quoting BlackKnight (Reply 5):
Flight-ware says the flight was diverted. It lasted only 1:50. Something turned them back early.

No. Diverted means they changed the flight plan to a different airport.

They followed the usual Boeing test track to Moses Lake, but instead of landing at Paine Field as planned, they returned to Boeing Field.

It doesn't mean there was a problem.

BA84


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30546 posts, RR: 84
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 16491 times:
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Since we're just after the Winter Solstice, actual sunrise is not until 08:00 and actual dusk falls at 16:25. Since the chase planes need to have light to maintain visual surveillance of the test aircraft at the moment, that limits the hours available for a flight.

And the test 787s have no reason to return to KPAE and land, so the "touch and go" planned at KPAE explains why the flight plan was filed to that location and it makes since as it's likely easier than at KBFI since their is no traffic to KSEA in the area.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10875 posts, RR: 37
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 16214 times:

Did they run any chase planes on today's Ship1 test flight? I did not seem to see any on the video. Thank you for the good news. The weather looked nice. I am sure the pilots were happy to fly in a blue sky.

I was thinking about a possible 787 test flight earlier on today so my guess was right. I guess they will be taking to the sky every day now.  airplane 



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User currently offlineNycbjr From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 447 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 16000 times:

Looks like we have another flight plan for our plastic obsession  Silly

BOE1/B788 has just filed a flight plan. It is scheduled to depart from KBFI (Boeing Field Intl) at 10:00AM PST heading for KMWH (Grant Co Intl) for an estimated arrival at 02:00PM PST.


User currently offlineBA84 From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 418 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 15998 times:
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Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 11):
Did they run any chase planes on today's Ship1 test flight? I did not seem to see any on the video.

There are always chase planes on these first flights.

Everything is videoed, even the slightest aileron adjustment.

The pilot tells the chase plane every move, before he makes it.

Listen here:

http://paineairport.com/sounds/787ba122709.mp3

BA84


User currently offlineEbbuk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 15894 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 10):
Since we're just after the Winter Solstice, actual sunrise is not until 08:00 and actual dusk falls at 16:25. Since the chase planes need to have light to maintain visual surveillance of the test aircraft at the moment, that limits the hours available for a flight.

I am sure Boeing will also have this info yet they chose to fly in the afternoon.

[Edited 2009-12-28 11:41:19 by srbmod]

User currently offlineSkyhawk62507 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 176 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 15764 times:

It has to be a good sign so far that Boeing is running back-to-back test flights -- hope we see some major air time this week!

User currently offlineBA84 From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 418 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 15765 times:
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Quoting 757GB (Reply 15):
Does anybody know if the test pilots for this flight were the same as for first flight?

They are, but they switch seats on alternate flights.

BA84


User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 15493 times:

Visiting SEA and was sitting in the hotel room overlooking Elliott Bay around 4:45 PM yesterday and looked up to see this lovely airplane with a chase plane...then it dawned on me that it was the B787 landing at BFI. To slow to grab the camera and with dusk and a few dark clouds over the Olympics the picture would have been horrible, but still was a sight to behold.

Anyone have the flight test schedule for the next few days? I'd love to head over to BFI and witness a take-off/landing.



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User currently offlineEvomutant From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 15409 times:

Anyhow. I guess they needed to land in the light. That seems the perfectly logical explanation. Guessing about potential problems is stupid until we have any indications that there was one. And there are none.

[Edited 2009-12-28 11:43:16 by srbmod]

User currently offlineBA84 From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 418 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 15114 times:
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Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 20):
I'd love to head over to BFI and witness a take-off/landing.

Today's take-off is imminent, scheduled at 1010.

Scheduled for 5 hours. Probably overnight at Moses Lake.

BA84


User currently onlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5402 posts, RR: 30
Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 14970 times:

Any live shots,,,,,,,,,,,,,,?


What the...?
User currently offlineAllegro From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 236 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 14831 times:

The duration of flights is hardly any indication of progress. Anyways, cautious is GOOD!

New test equipment was added to ZA001 last week and this flight probably determined the validity of those new test components. We know that this second flight [of ZA001] was for auto-pilot testing and wing anti-ice testing. Of course that does not mean they used those systems but probably checked that the could measure/record the results of future tests. Lets not read too much into this ... but I can see it gives an opening to those who do not believe Boeing these days.

Looks like ZA001 is headed for Moses Lake today ... should have taken off about 20 minutes ago ... refresh, refresh, refresh ...sigh.

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 20):

Anyone have the flight test schedule for the next few days? I'd love to head over to BFI and witness a take-off/landing.

Check this:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE1

It will show other planes like 77W's but you can sort on the 788.

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!

[Edited 2009-12-28 11:43:49 by srbmod]


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User currently offlineLY4XELD From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 857 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 14859 times:



Quoting BA84 (Reply 22):
Scheduled for 5 hours. Probably overnight at Moses Lake.

Why would the airplane overnight at MWH? There's nothing there as far as Boeing facilities go. If it's a 5 hour flight, they likely haven't filed their return to BFI flight plan yet.



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30546 posts, RR: 84
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 14868 times:
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Yup. On customer aircraft check flights, they often appear to just perform a "touch and go" at MWH and head back to the Puget Sound.

[Edited 2009-12-28 10:59:22]

User currently offlineBA84 From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 418 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 14876 times:
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On the way!

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE1

BA84


User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3946 posts, RR: 18
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 14686 times:



Quoting Nycbjr (Reply 4):
I signed up for Flightaware alerts for BOE1, I was going to turn it off cause I get them for test flights of other planes (presumably customer testing), I was pleasantly surprised to get the alert for a 788

WE001 is also testing at the moment so you'll get alerts for that one along with ZA001. WE001 is ANAs B77W JA784A which should be delivering to the customer soon. Once that one has gone then you should only be getting the 787 on 001 til the Spring when YR001 will appear out of Renton (a FlyDubai B738).

R  spin 


User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3500 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 14640 times:
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Quoting LY4XELD (Reply 26):
There's nothing there as far as Boeing facilities go

A quick google shows otherwise.....

Boeing Co - www.boeing.com
8987 Graham Street Northeast, Moses Lake - (509) 762-2...

Boeing Co - www.boeing.com
8998 Tyndall Road Northeast, Moses Lake - (509) 762-9...

When I was working in Washington Boeing did quite a bit of it's testing field work at Moses Lake. Lot's of room, long runways, minimal air traffic, and close to home if the need arose.

C-17 crews from McChord also used Moses quite a bit and they too had folks on station to support their operations.



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25 Post contains links Allegro : In the air! http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE1
26 ER757 : Thank goodness for slow days at work! Saw the post about the impending flight at about 09:45 and since the office is less than 15 minutes from BFI, to
27 Dragon6172 : Probably not an overnight since there is a return leg to BFI already filed. More likely a touch and go or full stop, taxi back, and take off again. M
28 BlackKnight : Out of the state of Washington for the first time. (Assembled and under its own power)
29 Stitch : Moses Lake is in Washington State so unless she's routing north over Canada...
30 EMBQA : Nope... the flight track shows he turned back just before crossing the state line
31 Allegro : She's looks like she will go over the Idaho panhandle and into Montana ... before doing a 180 back to MWH. Oh ... rats! She just turned before the Id
32 Post contains links and images FlyPBA : the 4th 787 flight, and the 3rd for ZA001, BOE001 departed this AM to Moses Lake at 10:42PDT ... 28DEC09 larger versions here: http://www.flickr.com/p
33 757GB : Great shots. Thanks for sharing!
34 Skyhawk62507 : Great shots!!!! Looks like she swung her gear up right after departure, judging by the maingear doors?[Edited 2009-12-28 12:34:07 by skyhawk62507]
35 Ronaldo747 : that wingflex is simply awesome ... thanks for sharing!
36 FlyPBA : yup ... gear were raised immediately for 787 flights 3 and 4
37 MadameConcorde : Oh... those wings... aren't they amazing! She is one beautiful aircraft! Go 787! Thank you for posting the pictures.
38 EPA001 : Yes they are. Does anyone know if these wings have the most flex of any civilian airliner? And is this a result of the CFRP or could a metal wing als
39 Post contains links and images Phen : This wing flex on the 77W used to blow me away but not so much any more! View Large View MediumPhoto © Tim De Groot - AirTeamImages
40 MadameConcorde : Aside from Concorde this is the most aesthetically pleasing passenger transport aircraft I have seen. She is simply so elegant and besides her amazin
41 BlackKnight : Finally Idaho has been reached. The pilots onboard must be reviewing this post. The 787 as left Washington! For real this time.
42 Jreuschl : Nice long test flight... 4:12 so far!
43 Allegro : Looks like they are extending this flight to 7 hr 37 min! Guess the short flight yesterday was just a check for today ... Just barely ... wow, ony us
44 Post contains images Skyhawk62507 : In the future, when we see 787s regularly plying the skies over Asia and Europe... we can all say we witnessed the very first time the type flew outs
45 5Rivers : Her nose is not bad looking - but very similar to that of a Comet 4, imho.[Edited 2009-12-28 15:52:43]
46 Stitch : And that's a bad thing?
47 5Rivers : No, not bad at all.
48 IAHFLYR : Any ideas of tomorrow schedule if any? The weather says rain in SEA tomorrow. Sure was a treat to see a tiny glimps of her last evening, wish the sun
49 Mattcawby : 4:03 PM BOEING 001 inbound Paine Field for a touch and go, then to BFI
50 IAHFLYR : She just flew by out hotel again over Elliott Bay, 4:26 PM on approach to BFI, WOW she is quiet, great wing flex, and look spectacular over the bay. S
51 Stitch : A storm is said to be moving in, bringing showers, but if the turbulence is not bad, they can probably still operate.
52 KELPkid : Just out of curiosity- How much longer will ZA001 use the "Boeing 001" callsign during flight testing? I'm assuming at some point, they will go over t
53 Brons2 : When will ZA002 be flying again? Would be nice to see them take off back to back!
54 KELPkid : Based on ZA001, it appears that it takes about a week's worth of equipment installation at BFI before the birds can rejoin the flight test program
55 BlackKnight : Flightware seemed to be tracking the T-33 not the 787. Can anybody enlighten me? Upon final it showed a path thru landing to the south and then beyond
56 Timf : FlightAware is glitchy when it comes to arrivals. It often shows a path that goes past the airport (or ends prior to the airport) upon landing. In thi
57 MadameConcorde : I doubt they will send one of the 787s to the Singapore Air Show in February but I have no doubt that one machine will be at Farnborough and will be a
58 Post contains images SuperVC10er : I just happened to be out walking the dog with my new camera which I whipped out, set 10x zoom and got this. Not A-net quality but not bad for quite s
59 Oykie : Nice to see that the 787 tests are continuing. Does anyone know what kind of altitude and speed it reached? Flightaware says 15000 feet and 200kts. By
60 MadameConcorde : Is there any way we can see them two 787s test flights live on any website? I wish Boeing would follow on with webcasts live from the chase planes but
61 Rheinbote : Yippee...that would be great. But for me the show is going to be stolen by the 747-8F
62 Frigatebird : What I'm really looking forward to is hearing four GEnX engines at work when the 747-8 takes off to the sky But I doubt if either the 787 or the 747-
63 Post contains links Tdscanuck : www.flightaware.com will give you nearly live tracking; just put in KBFI and click the flight number. As an aviation nut, I can certainly see the app
64 Post contains links Skyhawk62507 : Another flight scheduled for today (Wednesday) -- looks like they're opening the envelope a bit, filed for 250 kts at FL220. http://flightaware.com/li
65 United787 : ZA001 or ZA002? It sounds like we need a running thread on just the test flights...if this is it, maybe it should be renamed as such!
66 A340Spotter : If it's BOE1, it is ZA001. BOE2 is ZA002 (and subsequent ANA 787s will match their BOE callsign with corresponding ZA###s aircraft IDs). JSD
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