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DL And UA's 747-400s?  
User currently offlineMudboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1167 posts, RR: 5
Posted (5 years 15 hours ago) and read 11759 times:

I was connecting via FRA a week or so ago and saw a UA 744 there. I had thought that UA were only flying their 744s to Asia and Syd? Where are DL and UA sending their 744s these days, and is there any chance they would send them on routes like ATL-DXB or IAD-DXB?
Are there any other routes the 777s fly that DL might switch to a 744?
Thanks ahead of time!!

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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15842 posts, RR: 27
Reply 1, posted (5 years 15 hours ago) and read 11740 times:



Quoting Mudboy (Thread starter):
Are there any other routes the 777s fly that DL might switch to a 744?

I think that JFK-TLV is going to a 744 for the summer.



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9700 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (5 years 15 hours ago) and read 11716 times:

DL
JFK-NRT
JFK-TLV
DTW-NRT
DTW-NGO
MSP-NRT
NRT-HKG
NRT-MNL
HNL-NRT
I think thats it, not alot of routes for 16 aircraft.



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User currently offlineMudboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1167 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (5 years 15 hours ago) and read 11698 times:

I recall seeing a DL 744 at SEA a few years back, I see that is no more.

User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15842 posts, RR: 27
Reply 4, posted (5 years 15 hours ago) and read 11672 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 2):
I think thats it, not alot of routes for 16 aircraft

They seem to do a lot of charter work as well, especially for DoD.



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (5 years 13 hours ago) and read 11417 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 2):
DL
JFK-NRT
JFK-TLV
DTW-NRT
DTW-NGO
MSP-NRT
NRT-HKG
NRT-MNL
HNL-NRT
I think thats it, not alot of routes for 16 aircraft.

What happened to DTW-KIX?
nothing out of LAX anymore?
I thought they were operating ATL-NRT on a 744
and I think DTW-NRT is twice daily, at least it used to be

There is a Delta 747-400 parked at MCO right now N676US, brought down the University of Wisconsin that ran MSN-MCO yesterday.


User currently offlineFloridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2018 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 13 hours ago) and read 11382 times:



Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 5):
What happened to DTW-KIX?

Killed quite some time ago

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 5):
nothing out of LAX anymore?

Right now there is, but not in the summer sked

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 5):
I thought they were operating ATL-NRT on a 744

That is going back to 777 this summer

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 5):
and I think DTW-NRT is twice daily, at least it used to be

Not anymore.



Good goes around!
User currently offlineRonaldo747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 395 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 12 hours ago) and read 11268 times:



Quoting Mudboy (Thread starter):
I was connecting via FRA a week or so ago and saw a UA 744 there. I had thought that UA were only flying
their 744s to Asia and Syd?

The UA 744 is always a common sight at FRA, as an important *Alliance hub.


User currently offlineDLDTW1962 From United States of America, joined May 2009, 393 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 12 hours ago) and read 11160 times:

I noticed yesterday (12/27/09) that UA was using a B744 for flights 1 and 2. Which is the
ORD/HNL/ORD route. Is this something that is going to stay or are they going back to the B777's again?

Chuck


User currently offlineBOACCunard From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 hours ago) and read 11067 times:



Quoting Mudboy (Reply 3):
I recall seeing a DL 744 at SEA a few years back, I see that is no more.

Do you mean UA? Or NW? There were no DL 744s a few years back.



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User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1725 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 hours ago) and read 10918 times:

I believe DL/NW sent them over to AMS last summer (2008) also.
Haven't seen them since though, besides the odd Bowling Shoe 747-200 running some militairy charters.



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15842 posts, RR: 27
Reply 11, posted (5 years 10 hours ago) and read 10764 times:



Quoting DLDTW1962 (Reply 8):
Is this something that is going to stay or are they going back to the B777's again?

Probably just a temporary upgrade for the holidays. They will probably go back to a 777 fairly soon.



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6676 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (5 years 10 hours ago) and read 10741 times:

DL is using a 744 LAX-NRT until 31May10.

UA is using a 744 on ORD-HNL seasonally over Christmas.

The 744 at FRA goes to SFO. With about 25 744s in the fleet, UA's 744s goes to a lot of places. Don't think you'll see them to KWI or DXB since that's way too much capacity.

The777Man



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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8517 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (5 years 8 hours ago) and read 10512 times:
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Quoting The777Man (Reply 12):
The 744 at FRA goes to SFO. With about 25 744s in the fleet, UA's 744s goes to a lot of places. Don't think you'll see them to KWI or DXB since that's way too much capacity.

The UA SFO to FRA flight is teh only United 744 flight to Europe. SFO is the main base for UA's 744 fleet since they fly them all over Australasia. ORD and LAX also have some 744 flights to Sydney and Hong Kong. Most UA pacific flights are with teh 777's.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26174 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (5 years 8 hours ago) and read 10491 times:



Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 13):
The UA SFO to FRA flight is teh only United 744 flight to Europe

Currently yes.
ORD-FRA also gets the 744 in the spring, and IAD-FRA used to be a 744 market recently.



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User currently offlineSteex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1765 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (5 years 8 hours ago) and read 10481 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 2):
HNL-NRT

For what it's worth, I believe that HNL-NRT is 2x 744 in the summer schedule and HNL-KIX changes to 1x 744 as well.


User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3180 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (5 years 8 hours ago) and read 10440 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 14):
IAD-FRA used to be a 744 market recently.

Really? When was this discontinued?

I know they used to operate the 744 on the IAD-DUS route.

Currently UA operates the 744 on the IAD-NRT route.



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User currently offlineUA933 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 hours ago) and read 10319 times:

IAD-NRT is the only 744 route from IAD since the crew base was closed a couple of years ago. IAD-DUS was always a 763. UA's previous LAX-FRA route was also operated by a 747. Since route however was discontinued due to high oil prices. Loads however were very good, yields however not so.


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26174 posts, RR: 50
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 hours ago) and read 10245 times:



Quoting USAirALB (Reply 16):
Really? When was this discontinued?

UA916/UA917 historicaly was a 744 until fall of 2008.

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 16):
I know they used to operate the 744 on the IAD-DUS route.

 Confused You must be confused. UA did fly to DUS(with 763s) but that was discontinued in 2002.

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 16):
Currently UA operates the 744 on the IAD-NRT route.

Goes back to a 777 in the spring.

Quoting UA933 (Reply 17):
UA's previous LAX-FRA route was also operated by a 747.

Nope was a 777.



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User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8776 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 hours ago) and read 10201 times:



Quoting Mudboy (Reply 3):
I recall seeing a DL 744 at SEA

SEA-NRT is like the village bicycle. Every NW / DL widebody has been on it, pretty much.


User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3180 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 hours ago) and read 10062 times:



Quoting UA933 (Reply 17):

My bad.. I confused DDF with DUS. I wish they still flew to DUS.

Quoting Flighty (Reply 19):
SEA-NRT is like the village bicycle.

Huh?



E135/E140/E145/E70/E75/E90/CR2/CR7/CR9/717/732/733/734/735/73G/738/739/752/753/762/772/319/320/321/333
User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8776 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 hours ago) and read 9953 times:



Quoting USAirALB (Reply 20):
Huh?



Quoting Flighty (Reply 19):
Every NW / DL widebody has been on it

A play on words, my friend.


User currently offlineLegacytravel From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1067 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (5 years 6 hours ago) and read 9839 times:

I seen on fllightaware a week or so ago that UA had a 744 on the ORD-HNL route. I am not sure if that is just for the Christmas holiday, to move extra people from the snow delays or an equipment change. The route is usually flown by a 777.
Any info on that would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Mark in MKE



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User currently offlineAlexinwa From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 6 hours ago) and read 9787 times:



Quoting Flighty (Reply 19):
SEA-NRT is like the village bicycle. Every NW / DL widebody has been on it, pretty much.

Guess I'm confused as well. DL/NW ran a 747 classic for a hundred years on this route. It was then a 332 and now a 333. NW never had schd 744 on SEA-NRT. Which I must say I am stunned about.



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26174 posts, RR: 50
Reply 24, posted (5 years 6 hours ago) and read 9688 times:



Quoting Legacytravel (Reply 22):
Any info on that would be appreciated.

UA1/2 has been scheduled as a 744 between 12/17-1/4 and reverts back to a 777 afterwards.



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25 Goomba : Is ATL to NRT the only 744 that DL flies out of ATL? I see the DL 744 in ATL all the time now and thought that they must be doing more than one route
26 Flighty : D10 was not unheard of.
27 Steex : That is currently the only DL 744 flight out of ATL. They had been operating ATL-HNL on a 744 as well, but that has changed over to a 333.
28 Burnsie28 : The first DL 744 didn't come until December 2008. Delta dropped it shortly after they merger. Unlike Delta NW used all 16 planes. Delta is only going
29 Daron4000 : UA (Summer Schedule 2010): SFO-NRT SFO-HKG SFO-SYD SFO-FRA SFO-PVG SFO-PEK ORD-HKG ORD-NRT ORD-FRA LAX-SYD LAX-NRT NRT-BKK HKG-SIN HKG-SGN
30 Nickofatlanta : Just wondering - is NRT currently the only 744 route from IAD? Does the plane just sit on the ground for 22 hours in IAD? Surprised they don't try a r
31 LAXintl : United is fat 747 capacity with low utilization. So having them sit around for long stretches in IAD, ORD, SFO, LAX and Asia does no harm.
32 747LUVR : There is a Delta 747-400 parked at MCO right now N676US, brought down the University of Wisconsin that ran MSN-MCO yesterday. N676NW
33 AZNCSA4QF744ER : UA904/05 has always been operated on the B777 XC config from the launch to the end.
34 N7371f : The last number given to DL/NW pilots was 12 lines 744 flying and 4 not in schedule service for DOD and possible mods.
35 RoseFlyer : IAD-DXB would be a challenge since it is not a crew/maintenance base. However DXB has been doing very well with high loads and very high oversold fac
36 LAXintl : LAX has been a 744 crew base for as far back as I can remember the planes have been on property. United also has strong maintenance capabilities in L
37 Tayser : LAX-SYD-MEL.
38 Post contains links Brilondon : Quoting Mudboy (Reply 3): I recall seeing a DL 744 at SEA a few years back, I see that is no more. I think that your memory is a lot like mine. They d
39 Mudboy : My apologies, I meant NW 744 at SEA, and it was in either 04 or 05?
40 Post contains links VC10DC10 : N623US and N624US, the last Northwest 747-200s in passenger configuration, have both been retired now. More information here: NW/DL 747-200F Update (
41 Transpac787 : As someone else mentioned, it's N676NW Interestingly, it's been operated quite often with the last old-configuration 744 in the fleet, N187UA (ship 8
42 DLDTW1962 : Thank you BMI727 for the answer to my question. Have a Happy and Safe New Year. chuck
43 Falstaff : I flew on one DTW-AMS in July of 2008. I think they may have returned to that route in in the summer of 2009.
44 Legacytravel : LAX I appreciate the info. Those are some lucky travelers get a 744 instead of a domestic 777 on a 8-9 flight. Mark
45 Daron4000 : This just in: UA will operate a 747 between SFO-ICN for the remainder of the published schedule and will do so on a daily basis. Now UA's full 747 ope
46 FL787 : Where or when do you see ORD-FRA on a 744? Editing: Nevermind, I found it, it just doesn't start until May unlike most of the other schedule changes.
47 LAXintl : The listed utilization is the the proposed summer schedule. ORD-FRA 744 UA940/941 is effective on May 1st.
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