Skyhawk62507 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 174 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 13923 times:
Wheels up @ 1019 PST!
Looks like they plan to open the test envelope a bit -- filed for FL220 at 250 kts.
Dragon6172 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1161 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 13710 times:
Quoting BA84 (Reply 3): It's a touch and go at Moses Lake.
Probably a bit more than that on a 4+ hour scheduled flight.
Clemsonaj From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 261 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 12995 times:
This may be a dumb question, but why is Boeing keeping the flight testing almost solely within Washington State? Proximity to facilities I would guess??
474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9 Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 12757 times:
Quoting Clemsonaj (Reply 6): This may be a dumb question, but why is Boeing keeping the flight testing almost solely within Washington State? Proximity to facilities I would guess??
Washington State air about the same as any other States air.
Actually, the flight test airframes are full of test equipment. The data recorded has to be down loaded and analyzed. So you would assume the equipment used to read the flight test data is located near the factory?
AeroPiggot From United States of America, joined May 2005, 280 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 12172 times:
Looks like she is headed for KPAE, probably for another touch and go?
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KELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 5962 posts, RR: 4 Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 12074 times:
Quoting AeroPiggot (Reply 8): Looks like she is headed for KPAE, probably for another touch and go?
She was scheduled to do one Sunday, but it was cancelled due to non-VFR conditions at PAE Wonder if this is the "make up" for this.
Celebrating the birth of KELPkidJR on August 5, 2009 :-)
United787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2352 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 12074 times:
Quoting Clemsonaj (Reply 6): This may be a dumb question, but why is Boeing keeping the flight testing almost solely within Washington State?
This is only the 4th or 5th flights, I am sure they will be traveling well beyond the limits of Washington as the testing program gains more confidence in the aircraft and the tests get more vigorous, baby steps, baby steps...
Adipasqu From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 236 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 12024 times:
Quoting AeroPiggot (Reply 8): Looks like she is headed for KPAE, probably for another touch and go?
Probably, but it appears they didn't get below FL100 over MWH nor were lined up with any available runway from the flight log, so no touch-n-go there.
787seattle From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 641 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 11811 times:
Quoting Clemsonaj (Reply 6): This may be a dumb question, but why is Boeing keeping the flight testing almost solely within Washington State? Proximity to facilities I would guess??
Like others have said, it does have to do with smaller steps at first and the data recording equipment. Eventually, the airplanes will have to go down to EDW for brake testing. I'm not 100% sure where else. It's probably been discussed in one of the super threads from two weeks ago.
Allegro From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 232 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11135 times:
I count this as the fifth flight ... four for ZA001 and one for ZA002.
Actually, I am pleasantly surprised at the flight rate ... most reports said they would only get in three flights by the end of the year. Lets hope this is good sign of things to come ...
Also, how much later will the GENx version be certified ... one month after the RR's? More?
Mdw22l31c From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 197 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 10430 times:
What are the differences between the 787/R and the 787/E?
KELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 5962 posts, RR: 4 Reply 15, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 10029 times:
Quoting Mdw22l31c (Reply 14): What are the differences between the 787/R and the 787/E?
/R and /E are ICAO equipment codes...always appended to the type on an IFR flight plan. For example, the Cessna 172's I usually fly have a /G (for IFR-Approved GPS) appended to the type code.
AlexInWa From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1107 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 9411 times:
Saw this landing at BFI,.........with the sun and clouds and behind, what a view.
It's odd to finally see her in person, the nose is alot more pointy than I think you can really tell on TV and the the engines look huge compared to the fuselage.
IAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4740 posts, RR: 25 Reply 17, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 9208 times:
Yep, the view of her on final over Elliott Bay was spectacular as AlexinWa mentioned a perfect day, but no chase planes in sight though on this day. I have to figure out how to post the video from Pier66 that I took and that may be a day or two from happening as traveling back to IAH tomorrow.
Happy New Year to all and enjoy a safe and wonderful 2010, GO BOEING!!!!
Any views shared are strictly my own and do not a represent those of any former employer.
Tdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80 Reply 18, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 8436 times:
Quoting BA84 (Reply 3): It's a touch and go at Moses Lake.
How can you tell it's a touch-and-go from the flight plan?
Quoting Clemsonaj (Reply 6): This may be a dumb question, but why is Boeing keeping the flight testing almost solely within Washington State? Proximity to facilities I would guess??
Early experimental certificates usually restrict where they can go. At this stage, they probably can do Washington/Idaho/Oregon, and maybe California. Canada would be out without prior coordination with Transport Canada. As the test program progresses, the FAA will expand where they can operate.
Quoting 787seattle (Reply 12): Eventually, the airplanes will have to go down to EDW for brake testing. I'm not 100% sure where else. It's probably been discussed in one of the super threads from two weeks ago.
Victorville CA, Yuma AZ, and Glasgow MT have also come up in various claims, as well as the unknown-specific-location-but-known-need for hot/humid, hot, and cold weather.
Bkircher From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 185 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6424 times:
Back when this plane was supposed to fly in September it was going to come around the 25th of the month to Yuma, that is what the local fbo told me since they had been in contact with Boeing. Currently our offices in Yuma are working on getting it to come here, and when it does I will be sure to be there for arrival and be taking pics of it!
NorthstarBoy From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1716 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4967 times:
Is there a reason it needs to go to Edwards for Brake testing? cant they do that at Paine/Boeing field just as easily?
I could have elite status if I wanted it, but flying the same airline all the time is boring.
Dragon6172 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1161 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks ago) and read 3802 times:
Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 20): Is there a reason it needs to go to Edwards for Brake testing? cant they do that at Paine/Boeing field just as easily?
About a half a mile or so of extra runway at Edwards or Yuma, and not quite as congested should the thing go off the end.
Tdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80 Reply 22, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2284 times:
Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 20): Is there a reason it needs to go to Edwards for Brake testing?
Way more runway, way less traffic. Plus a nice long dry lake bed in case you go off the end.
Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 20): cant they do that at Paine/Boeing field just as easily?
KPAE is 9000', KBFI is 10000'. Edwards is 15000' + several miles of dry lake bed.
Quoting Dragon6172 (Reply 21): About a half a mile or so of extra runway at Edwards or Yuma,
At least an extra mile at EDW, far more if you count the lake bed. If you go off the end of KPAE you go down a really steep hill (north) or through residential (south). If you go off the end of KBFI you hit commercial (north) or a rail yard (south).
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Wonder if this is the "make up" for this.
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