STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 17091 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5660 times:
Quoting Cba (Reply 4): Most of CO's orders are for the 787-9 anyway. Those will take longer to be delivered.
They recently changed the order, adding more 787-8s and less 787-9s. The order was 8 787-8s and 17 787-9s, now it's 11 787-8s and 14 787-9s. I'm guessing that they added more 787-8s as some early spots became available.
Cba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5461 times:
Quoting STT757 (Reply 3): They recently changed the order, adding more 787-8s and less 787-9s. The order was 8 787-8s and 17 787-9s, now it's 11 787-8s and 14 787-9s. I'm guessing that they added more 787-8s as some early spots became available.
Makes sense... they probably want some aircraft sooner for expansion.
The 789 will likely be the real gem of the family however when it is rolled out... much like the 763 eclipsed the 762.
Fun2fly From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1178 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5208 times:
The previous schedule was 2 77e's in 2010, 3 in 2011 and then 787's in 2012. There was a rumor that CO cancelled their 3 77e's for 2011 and ordered 11 more 787's. I'd guess we'll know either in early Jan when Boeing releases their information, mid-Jan when CO releases their Q4 information. If CO cancelled their 2011 77e's, then they must have somehow obtained some type of lift for expansion in 2011 guessing it would be 787's. Smisek's first bold move. More to follow...
Beagleboys From Italy, joined Jun 2006, 230 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3200 times:
Quoting CALMSP (Reply 6): I would like to know what the top brass want to do with these now. No need to fly IAH-FCO/MXP anymore, and MAD wont be on the top of the charts with no codeshare on SpanAir set at this point.
IAH-China has got to be on the top of the list.
Why not MXP? AZ has left the spot but, correct me if i'm wrong, CO now is a *A member. And a flight to MXP can help the LHI operation.
*A should convince all the Miles&More user of the old AP to fly with them. Actually AZ & AP are giving a good service on LIN with some nice long haul links from FCO, CDG and AMS. LH and *A should create an hub to keep all those people from lombardy fidelized with them. That's why CO, AC & the oriental partner should start a lot of flight on MXP with the help of LHI. We are specking of an area with some of the biggest industries of the world and with HQ for the EMEA area of some of the biggest business(Like IBM).
Nervous? Yes. First Times? No, I've been nervous lots of times. -Airplane!
CALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4136 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2481 times:
I wouldn't count on ZRH......BRU maybe with the ability to hit parts of Africa. But with the codeshares of OS, (MS - proposed), the possibility of having a HND slot as well as more India destinations, I think IAH-BRU/ZRH probably wont happen.
okay, I'm waiting for the rich to spread the wealth around to me. Please mail your checks to my house.
CO58 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 51 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2463 times:
Quoting STT757 (Reply 14): They mentioned Bangalore, Hyderabad and Chennai specifically.
Things have certainly changed since then and while I can see a lot of potential with Bangalore, I think Chennai and Hyderabad are extremely risky. For example with Hyderabad, KL quit and LH is starting to day of week their current flight. I am not sure a non stop from EWR would work so well. Chennai is another one of those question marks as it is rather low yielding.
Quoting CALMSP (Reply 15): new codeshare agreements and cities that are in STAR could generate more traffic (ICN).
ICN makes a lot of sense with the 787 in my opinion.
I have often wondered about these two routes. I think they are perfect for the 762 however, not the 787. I can see IAH-ZRH having a lot of potential as a FRA alternative but if LH starts IAH-MUC, I think this route is a goner. IAH-BRU could do well for African connections but I don't see a lot of traffic otherwise so maybe its time for CO to consider a Privatair 73G.
Conti764 From Belgium, joined Dec 2007, 234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1784 times:
Quoting CALMSP (Reply 20): right now, SQ is not on the immediate horizon for codeshare. But not a bad idea, however, with them already offering service thru DME, I dont think they would switch or add a 2nd.
I mean to have red somewhere that they were planning on introducing SIN-BCN-IAH...
I don't know the market between SIN and IAH, but adding BRU as a stop in between might be a good flight for SQ. The market between SIN and BRU is too small to operate a direct rotation and I guess the market between IAH and BRU is even smaller, so no need for CO to deploy a 762 (the only viable aircraft in CO's fleet for such flight). If they'd be working together though, the combination IAH-BRU, SIN-BRU and SIN-IAH could make it work.
Of course, if such market is really there and sustainable, CO could try it themselves, but then again, it would make two T7's necessary for such operation (since the only alternative would be the 762 and it would barely make it) and I don't think CO has the capacity to use two T7's on this route.
Speaking about CO codesharing... Any news about a possible codesharing with SN when the latter stops codesharing with AA? SN would loose it's link to NYC and although the CEO mentioned JFK as a possible US destination of SN, this would still be years away and a connection to NYC seems imminent for SN...
Or about the already much mentioned second EWR-BRU rotation?