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JAL Proposing To Stop International Flights  
User currently offlineTommytoyz From Tonga, joined Jan 2007, 1353 posts, RR: 5
Posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 18748 times:

http://www.n-tv.de/wirtschaft/JAL-ge...uf-Schrumpfkurs-article661055.html

Sorry, only in German. According to the article, JAL is proposing cutting international flights from Japan and becoming mainly a Japanese domestic airline. The Government has refused to guarantee and more bank loans and so banks are not likely to lend any more without these guarantees.

ANA has already signaled they would be willing to take over most international routes dropped by JAL, though they already heavily overlap. I'm sure English version news will be out on this shortly.

[Edited 2010-01-01 13:03:26 by tommytoyz]

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User currently offlineDLX737200 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1930 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 18741 times:

Wow! I'll miss seeing those monster JAL planes in LA and JFK next time I'm in either city.


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User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4605 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 18703 times:

Here are the important parts. If you use Google Chrome, it translates it for you.  Smile

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The rival All Nippon Airways (ANA) is considering to take over the routes, reported the newspaper Yomiuri Shimbun. The company wanted to offer more flights to Europe and the United States and had already expressed his interest to the government, it said in the report, citing unnamed sources.

Several ministers had before a report by the Mainichi Shimbun said a takeover of the global routes by JAL, ANA brought into play. Transport Minister Seiji Maehara, however, was against the plan because it would offer flights to foreign countries only by a Japanese airline.


User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25741 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 18632 times:

Already posted and being discussed as part of possible BK filing
JAL Weighs Bankruptcy Filing (by Lightsaber Dec 29 2009 in Civil Aviation)



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User currently offlineSlz396 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 18242 times:

If this is to happen, then the dream of A380s for ANA is going to become reality indeed, IMHO.

If they become Japans only international airline, they'll have the volume to fill these planes on certain routes and they'll definitely feel the need to take up the challenge, because if don't step onto the VLA bandwagon, they will be eaten alive by other foreign airlines too.


User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4273 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 18126 times:

NO way that JAL will leave the international skies anytime soon.
There is no official information given by either JAL, the banks, or the Japanese government in this case. The newsitem as shown in the link is not based on facts, but only rumours.



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User currently offlinePeanuts From Netherlands, joined Dec 2009, 1442 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 18070 times:

I don't understand this thread title. Speculation written as fact?


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User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 18020 times:

JAL no longer international. Unbelievable..



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User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4273 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 17972 times:

The German article is based on news from Reuters:

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60005Y20100101

Still, it is not based on any fact and not correct.



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User currently offlineLondonCity From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 1506 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 17931 times:



Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 5):
NO way that JAL will leave the international skies anytime soon.

I agree. For reasons of "face" - so important in Asia - I just can't see it happening.


User currently offlinePeanuts From Netherlands, joined Dec 2009, 1442 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 17816 times:

All I see at the moment is this: JAL moaning under it's own weight. They NEED to shed some pension liabilities. They are making a lot of noise, drawing a lot of attention to make this debt reduction happen somehow.
ANA sees an "opportunity"
No way this will play out ANA's way. JAL will not allow it to go that far.



Question Conventional Wisdom. While not all commonly held beliefs are wrong…all should be questioned.
User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 17683 times:



Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 5):
NO way that JAL will leave the international skies anytime soon.
There is no official information given by either JAL, the banks, or the Japanese government in this case. The newsitem as shown in the link is not based on facts, but only rumours.

I hope for JAL, and for you personally, that this will certainly not happen!



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User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4273 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 17609 times:



Quoting Kappel (Reply 11):

I hope for JAL, and for you personally, that this will certainly not happen!

I know that this will not happen. At least, something will happen of course, but not what's mentioned in this thread. But, there will be an interesting announcement within a few weeks from now...



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User currently offlineEI787 From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1513 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 16428 times:
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JAL Weighs Bankruptcy Filing (by Lightsaber Dec 29 2009 in Civil Aviation)


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