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Introducing Locks On Overhead Bins  
User currently offlineCanadiantree From France, joined Jun 2006, 123 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 11858 times:

Hi guys,

This is my first post as an OP on this part of the forum, long time viewer, first time poster, look forward to making new friends  Smile

Here's my question, with the new policies getting into place since last week about carryons and what not, do any of you foresee in the future the introduction of overhead locks to prevent passengers from accessing carryons during the last hour of flight (or during the flight altogether)?

I'm wondering if airline technically have the right to do that and what you guys think the passengers perception of such a rule would be.

Personally I think it would have a negative response from passengers because they will feel infringed on rights access to items they believed to need throughout the flight.

May be a far fetched idea but who knows? Would love your thoughts.

Oh and happy new year from Paris!

William

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User currently offlineM11stephen From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1247 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 11769 times:

If a pax who wants to set off an explosive can't access their stuff 1 hour from landing than they will just set of the explosive an hour and a half from landing... I personally think pax should be banned from taking anything into the lavatory but that would be pretty much impossible to enforce and carries a lot of other problems with it. Pax who are in the bathroom for more than five minutes should also be under extreme suspicion for the rest of the flight.


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User currently offlineRcair1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1302 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 11714 times:
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Quoting Canadiantree (Thread starter):
from accessing carryons

LOL - I read this as "accessing crayons".....

Quoting Canadiantree (Thread starter):
I'm wondering if airline technically have the right to do that

Sure - they can do that. Just put it in the fine print on the ticket. It is their 'bus' and they can choose to run it this way.

Quoting Canadiantree (Thread starter):
negative response from passengers because they will feel infringed on rights access

Let's see here - you are in Canada - so I can't speak about your country's rights - but I don't see anything in the constitution and bill of rights that says you have a "right to luggage while on the plane".

You don't even have a right to fly. You have a right to purchase a ticket, and that ticket can come with limitations. You have a right not to be discriminated against based on a few things you cannot change, but "I need that book in my case" is not a protected class.

You also have the right to say "screw the airline that does this" and I would. If it comes from the various agencies in government, you have the right (in the US) to try to get them fired by their bosses (your representatives) and to speak out against it (the latter a right the current administration in the US is actively trying to thwart).

BTW - what does locking the overhead have to do with ANY of the recent attempts to kill people on the plane.

Insanity, (as in terrorism) breeds insanity (current responses)

The best way for me to keep myself safe is to arm myself so that I can take action if need be (boy, that should start a firestorm...)



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User currently offlineBlueFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3902 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 11639 times:
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I want a lock on the overhead bins not to stop fanatical terrorists (they'll find something else) but fanatical inconsiderate passengers who put their kitchen sink over row 10 and then head to their seat in row 30.


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User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 11584 times:



Quoting Rcair1 (Reply 2):
constitution and bill of rights

Another point to be made -- airlines (at least at the present in the US) are private enterprises; a special form of private enterprise (common carrier) which does carry some restrictions with it, but none the less a private enterprise.

The constitution and bill of rights apply to governmental actions (Congress shall make no law....) -- not those of a private enterprise. Just like an employer may place limits on an employee's freedom of speech (nondiscolsure agreements, workplace rules, etc) or security gaurds at theme parks can search your belongings without a warrant or even a suspicion nothing in the constitution would prohibit the actions of an airline (I'm not saying that other laws/regulations could come into play, but I can't think of any off the top of my head -- but it's not a constitutional issue)

Quoting Rcair1 (Reply 2):
The best way for me to keep myself safe is to arm myself so that I can take action if need be (boy, that should start a firestorm...)

Has my mother joined A.net? I was talking to her two days ago and she firmly believes that every passenger should be handed a loaded firearm on boarding (she thinks "they" aren't going to try something stupid if they know everyone's going to shoot them), but for the time being she makes due with her knitting & knitting needles.

Lincoln



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User currently offlineExFATboy From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2974 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 11466 times:



Quoting M11stephen (Reply 1):
I personally think pax should be banned from taking anything into the lavatory but that would be pretty much impossible to enforce and carries a lot of other problems with it.

Flight attendants are burdened enough without having to screen everyone as they go into the lavatory, and there are a number of items that passengers need to take in - tampons and insulin kits are just the two that sprang to mind in the last 30 seconds.

And passengers could just put things in their pockets - are we going to have FAs patting down each passenger as they use the toilet?

As for the idea of locks, it doesn't really solve anything - as long as the item is small enough, the passenger can transfer it to a pocket between security and boarding, or (if done subtly enough) even in the jetway after a gate pat-down. And what about the "personal item" under the seat?


User currently offlineRidgid727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 11429 times:



Quoting BlueFlyer (Reply 3):
want a lock on the overhead bins not to stop fanatical terrorists (they'll find something else) but fanatical inconsiderate passengers who put their kitchen sink over row 10 and then head to their seat in row 30.

And then they get up halfway through the flight, asking you seated in row 10 to get up and help them with their obviously overstuffed bag.--one they have put 100lbs in that was designed for about 50 lbs. .. or try to get it down, and drop it on your head as you're seated in the aisle.


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4366 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 11359 times:

How about this as a crazy idea? Some form of induced sleep for all pax on longer flights. That way no one can complain about overhead bins, carry ons, crappy food, IFE, toilets, turbulence caused injuries, seat pitch......

User currently offlineLxmd11 From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 11212 times:



Quoting Rcair1 (Reply 2):
LOL - I read this as "accessing crayons".....

Same here! I was thinking what the heck is a terrorist going to do with a box of crayons?

Anyway airlines and flight attendants should have lists of people who bought a one way ticket, didn't check any bags or are on the terrorists watch list and see who is suspicious in many categories and see who they should keep an eye on without being rude, intruding, or deny rights to things such as the bathroom or carry-ons.


User currently offlineRFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7509 posts, RR: 32
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 11208 times:



Quoting Canadiantree (Thread starter):
I'm wondering if airline technically have the right to do that and what you guys think the passengers perception of such a rule would be.

In Feb 2001 on a full AAL B767 DAL-CDG, I was seated under a bin which kept coming open. After twice getting hit by bags falling out, the FA called one of the pilots back.

Long story short - he found some duct tape, and secured the bin completely. He also made three other passengers place their items from the bin on the floor under the seat in front of theirs. Their complaints about bins and leg room were ignored. He told the FA and the passengers seated in the area not to remove the duct tape until after the plane reached the gate.

I've seen too many items fall out of bins over the years.

The company I used to work for lost an average of 15 laptop computers per year due to damage from bags falling out of overhead bins.

I hope they lock the stupid things for safety if no other reason.

Another great reason to lock them would be for emergency evacuations. Too often we see people carrying their bags off the plane in video of evacuations. Plus complaints from others that the routes to the exits were blocked by people getting their 'important' bag from the bins.


User currently offlineGymClassHero From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 11186 times:

Why not just do what they did in "US Marshals" and handcuff everyone and lock the chains to the floor?  Wink

User currently offlineZippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5467 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 10897 times:

This would be an irritation across the board. For passengers, crew members alike. Locks add expense, time, weight, maintenance and delays. We as a nation have to get away from all the political correctness garbage, organize and learn to communicate. Our government is famous no matter which party is in control of incompetence, duplication, wasting time and a lack of common sense when dealing with matters of efficiency, and our safety. My 2 cents. I feel we are suffering an extreme case of CSDD Common Sense Deficit Disorder. If our government could be 1/3 as diligent as they are when it comes to pork barrel spending and creating three day weekend holidays then, we'd really have something. Safe skies and these punks (terrorists) taking their murderous ways elsewhere.  banghead 


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User currently offlineLHFADUS From Germany, joined Apr 2007, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 10886 times:



Quoting TK787 (Reply 7):
How about this as a crazy idea? Some form of induced sleep for all pax on longer flights. That way no one can complain about overhead bins, carry ons, crappy food, IFE, toilets, turbulence caused injuries, seat pitch......

Sounds like a nice idea, thought about this quite a few times myself....^^

But this has to be my favorite - read it to my wife, she liked the idea too:

Quoting GymClassHero (Reply 10):
Why not just do what they did in "US Marshals" and handcuff everyone and lock the chains to the floor?

Seriously, locking the bins won't bring any security. Unless somebody wants to try and hijack the plane with a bazooka. Or anything else he/she/it couldn't fit into his pockets. Honestly, you wouldn't even have to use your "own stuff" to endanger a flight.


User currently offlineArffguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 10508 times:



Quoting M11stephen (Reply 1):
Pax who are in the bathroom for more than five minutes should also be under extreme suspicion for the rest of the flight.

Real easy for you to say, being young and probably having no health problems to speak of. My wife has real bad rheumatoid arthritis (bad hands and feet) and sometimes fights for 5 or 10 minutes just getting her pants on and off.

And every time you use the bathroom......are you done in only 5 minutes? Ready, set, go!

I get your point, but a time limit may not work for some people.



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User currently offlineFlybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1801 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 10395 times:



Quoting Canadiantree (Thread starter):
Here's my question, with the new policies getting into place since last week about carryons and what not, do any of you foresee in the future the introduction of overhead locks to prevent passengers from accessing carryons during the last hour of flight (or during the flight altogether)?

This is absolutely ridiculous. Are we forgetting that everything taken on board the aircraft by passengers is screened? The only reason why anything dangerous ends up on board is that the airport screeners failed to do their jobs correctly.

Even more laughable is that it took civilian passengers to subdue the alleged terrorist. With all the talk of highly paid Air Marshalls aboard flights I have yet to hear of them actually stopping a terrorist act. Government should concentrate on preventing passengers who pose a threat from boarding aircraft in the first place. Our intelligence agencies have failed miserably... we should be seeking advice from the Israelis, because obviously Homeland Security and the State Department can't hack it.



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User currently offlineDIRECTFLT From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 55 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 10396 times:

Canadiantree, I am a long time viewer, and now am a first time poster responding to your timely thread, as a New Member today!


Quoting Lincoln (Reply 4):
Has my mother joined A.net? I was talking to her two days ago and she firmly believes that every passenger should be handed a loaded firearm on boarding (she thinks "they" aren't going to try something stupid if they know everyone's going to shoot them), but for the time being she makes due with her knitting & knitting needles.

Lincoln

I wonder if your Mother ever got to see Archie Bunker's response to Airline Security:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68xSoecsoq0

As for the Overhead Bin issue, THAT was a problem even before the new Checked Luggage fees and the number of Carry-On limitations began.

Flying NR, often the overhead above my seat was already crammed to the max, so I got experience @#*%ing strangers entering my "space" at various times throughout the flight to "visit" their bags.
Maybe they got the flimsy lock on the overhead to snap completely shut... or maybe they didn't.

As soon they came out with the carry-on limitations, I envisioned severe damages to pax as these kitchen sinks responded to gravity of turbulence and partially locked doors!

What I would like to see instead of the "Push to Release" Lock, is a "Lever" lock system on all overheads. Something that you can tell by eyeballing the door that is, or is not securely locked.

As to locking the overheads so no access is possible during the flight, I would not like to see that.

I'm just not that organized to get everything I might want or need during a flight in to just one bag, but, I could improve on that skill, over time.

[Edited 2010-01-01 20:20:05]


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User currently offlineBohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2662 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 10238 times:



Quoting BlueFlyer (Reply 3):
I want a lock on the overhead bins not to stop fanatical terrorists (they'll find something else) but fanatical inconsiderate passengers who put their kitchen sink over row 10 and then head to their seat in row 30.


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I normally don't play the respected user game and that's why my respected user list is very short. Welcome to my respected user list. I am always the poor guy in row 10 who got f***ed by the a**hole in row 30 because he is too lazy to take his bag to his row, even though he dragged it throughout the airport.


User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3492 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 10214 times:



Quoting M11stephen (Reply 1):
Pax who are in the bathroom for more than five minutes should also be under extreme suspicion for the rest of the flight.

You've obviously never heard of constipation, shaving, or application of make-up, shaving, or brushing teeth.



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User currently offlineBonusonus From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 10188 times:



Quoting DIRECTFLT (Reply 15):

What I would like to see instead of the "Push to Release" Lock, is a "Lever" lock system on all overheads. Something that you can tell by eyeballing the door that is, or is not securely locked.

This is absolutely the more important issue here. During extreme turbulence, emergency descents, etc it is not uncommon to hear of bags falling out of the overhead bins and injuring passengers. It seems like simple common sense to design a latch mechanism that can contain the forces of bags slamming into the doors and keep luggage in place, and yet this doesn't exist at the moment.

Airlines and the TSA should focus on things that actually affect passenger safety, not preventing pax from accessing luggage that should have been screened properly anyway.


User currently offlineM11Stephen From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1247 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 9052 times:



Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 17):
Quoting M11stephen (Reply 1):
Pax who are in the bathroom for more than five minutes should also be under extreme suspicion for the rest of the flight.

You've obviously never heard of constipation, shaving, or application of make-up, shaving, or brushing teeth.

I know its possible that someone can get sick, I'm not saying anyone whos in the bathroom for more than five minutes should be wrested to the floor by passengers and F/As I'm just saying they should be under more suspicion for the rest of the flight. I'm in and out in one minute when I use the bathroom. I do "#2" before I board the plane, and I shave before I leave for the airport. Ladies should do makeup after the plane lands or before they board the plane if its a short flight. I don't know who takes 5 minutes to brush their teeth...

There are reasonable things we can do to make flying safer and unreasonable. Obviously making passengers fly naked or chaining them to their seats is unreasonable. Improving F/A training, being more vigilant, and introducing new screening technologies is reasonable. The passengers and crew acted how they should on board NW253. Since 9/11, Passengers and F/As have reacted well to suspicious passengers and situations where there was an imminent threat to the plane. Locking bins wouldn't help since a terrorist could simply slip an explosive device into their pocket.



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User currently online9VSIO From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 706 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 8891 times:
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Quoting M11Stephen (Reply 19):
I do "#2" before I board the plane

Good for you. Try taking an 18 hour flight and only having just made the connection. You won't be able to get everything done in time.

Quoting M11Stephen (Reply 19):
I'm just saying they should be under more suspicion for the rest of the flight.

You said extreme suspicion the first time round. That implies sitting a FAM next to them!

I wonder how much the combined weight of locks would add on to the overheads. Don't forget that some emergency equipment is stowed there too!

Quoting Flybyguy (Reply 14):
With all the talk of highly paid Air Marshalls aboard flights I have yet to hear of them actually stopping a terrorist act.

The Isreali Air Marshalls have though, haven't they? Also, they're meant to be the last line of defence. If you keep hearing about FAM's stopping people, then something is going severely wrong at the security screening!



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9099 posts, RR: 29
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 8826 times:



Quoting Lincoln (Reply 4):
The constitution and bill of rights apply to governmental actions (Congress shall make no law....) -- not those of a private enterprise. Just like an employer may place limits on an employee's freedom of speech (nondiscolsure agreements, workplace rules, etc) or security gaurds at theme parks can search your belongings without a warrant or even a suspicion nothing in the constitution would prohibit the actions of an airline (I'm not saying that other laws/regulations could come into play, but I can't think of any off the top of my head -- but it's not a constitutional issue)

If that opinion would hold up any private company could employ slaves instead of paid workers.

Airlines could not lock overhead bins without at least a directive by the FAA or applicable authorities in other countries allowing them to do that. We are paying passengers and with boarding an aircraft we do not forfeit our given rights, regardless if the airline is a privately run company or not.

It is bad enough that each and everyone using air transport is treated as a potential crominal. We have to endure senseless procedures and dumb questions each time we travel and while reading some of the comments here in this and other threads I wondetr that no one yet had come up with the idea to aneasthezise passengers before boarding and wake them up after arrival. Besides that this would save on catering and IFE, we would have only a couple of thousand deaths per year because of medical reasons but air travel would be really safe.

Folks, we have individual rights which have to be respected by each and every government and by each and every company and private person we are dealing with. The ideology that is behinfd the terrorists does not give a damn about individual rights. If the recent incident leads to another little slice cut off the salami, they have won already. At the end we are all subdued by a world wide clerical fascist regime.

Don't even think that way. Keep overhead bins unlocked and keep security checks to the point that our civil liberties are not further infringed. Use profiling and check those who pose the threat more than those who don't. The DTW terrorist was known to the authorities and I am sure that President Obama will make sure that in future such information willbe shared by all secret services and proper action will be taken.

The answer is not to harrass the average traveller but to eliminate the threat and don't let these people on board of airliners in first place.



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User currently offlineAAFLT1871 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2333 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 8777 times:



Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 17):
You've obviously never heard of constipation, shaving, or application of make-up, shaving, or brushing teeth.

You left off joining the Mile High Club.



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User currently offlineTdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 8745 times:



Quoting PanHAM (Reply 21):
Airlines could not lock overhead bins without at least a directive by the FAA or applicable authorities in other countries allowing them to do that.

Sure they could. The FAA's authority is limited to enforcing the FAR's. There's nothing in there about lockable overhead bins; the FAA doesn't have the authority to prevent an airline from locking overhead bins unless they can show it violates a FAR.

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 21):
We are paying passengers and with boarding an aircraft we do not forfeit our given rights, regardless if the airline is a privately run company or not.

True, but there's no such thing as "the right to access the overhead bin in flight."

Tom.


User currently offlineRichcandy From UK - England, joined Aug 2001, 718 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 8553 times:



Quoting M11stephen (Reply 1):
I personally think pax should be banned from taking anything into the lavatory but that would be pretty much impossible to enforce and carries a lot of other problems with it. Pax who are in the bathroom for more than five minutes should also be under extreme suspicion for the rest of the flight.

Hi

I can understand your reasoning however its just not as simple as that. Lots of people need to take things to the lavatory for both major and minor medical issues. As well as that I kind of like to brush my teeth and use deodorant once or twice if I am on a long haul flight. Passengers seated round me I guess are grateful for this to.

Then we come to the issue of human waste, some people can hold off "passing water" for want of a better word for hours, others need to go as often as every 90 mins. Add to that nervous flyers who sometimes can't make it pass 45-60 mins without a trip to the bathroom then you have an issue. Number 2's are another issue, some people can time when they need to go, others can't go on demand.

I have IBS and long haul flights fill me up like a balloon, that air has to come out somehow and again I think passengers round me would be happier if I went to the bathroom to fart and did not do it at my seat.

This is just my view but they way things are going I am starting to think that its not worth the hassel in flying. For short haul high speed trains were available seem to offer as better way to travel. I don't have to check my bags in, more space, they run city center to city center and I don't have to be at the station hours in advance. For long haul well, do I really need to travel to say NYC for the weekend? Do I need to go to via Australia every year?

In the 1980's and 90's I used to love flying, even in economy you had space, free drinks, movies and it was a fun experience. Ok it cost a lot less now, but there is no fun in it.

Alex


25 PanHAM : you have to think exactly the other way round. There is no such thing to prohibit a passenger from taking things out of his luggage stowed in overhea
26 Peergynt : " I personally think pax should be banned from taking anything into the lavatory but that would be pretty much impossible to enforce and carries a lot
27 AirNz : Correction......a civilian passenger' attempted to help put out what he thought was a possible fire. Whilst turning out a little differently, there w
28 Eta unknown : I can see Ryanair initiating locked overhead bins later this year... you want overhead storage space- pay to open the lock!!!
29 Tharanga : I'd think about improving the overheads for simple safety reasons. You get heavy turbulence or a rough landing, and the bins fly open, and overly heav
30 Kaiarahi : You've obviously never taken a trans-pacific / Asia-Europe / Africa-Europe / Africa-North America flight - or even an 8 hour trans-Atlantic followed
31 Kaiarahi : So how did he end up cuffed to a seat for the remainder of the flight - sounds like he was subdued to me, unless he cuffed himself.
32 L1011Lover : Well honestly everybody who does it correctly needs at least 5 minutes... because 3 minutes are recommended alone for brushing your teeth... lol... s
33 PanHAM : Governments, national, state or local have passed laws on pretty much everything and if an indivudual thinks that his rights have been infringed, he
34 Tdscanuck : Incorrect. There is a FAR that says the passengers must obey the instruction of the crew. If the crew says you can't access the overhead bins, and th
35 Rcair1 : I disagree. It would be in civil court - and he/she would have to demonstrate harm, not just inconvenience. I doubt they would win except by a jury f
36 PanHAM : OK, I forgot that US carriers are actually running galley ships and dis-obedient passengers are getting whipped. Now, we are talking about an inciden
37 Spencer : No they shouldn't, plain and simple!! Who says that won't happen in the future? With all the security issues going on then I honestly believe we will
38 MMEPHX : ...sounds like the fanatical terrorists may have achieved one of their main aims....(instilling fear) well said. "illegitimi non carborundum" ( mock
39 ExFATboy : Of course, the FAA could simply issue a new FAR ordering airlines to not lock bins. Or to lock bins. Or anything else. The fact that there's no FAR i
40 GQfluffy : Why don't we just remove the overhead bins altogether? Solves several problems at once.
41 Skibum9 : Just make it simple. Prohibit all carry-on luggage, except one item, which can either be a computer bag or a purse, with a limit of what can be in tho
42 Cschleic : How about someone who is sick or a medical issue? People do get airsick, after all. At some point flying will become so inconvenient that demand will
43 Zippyjet : I said it before and I'll say it again. It doesn't matter who's in power, but government is more concerned about political correctness for a minority
44 Bwaflyer : As crew - I'd LOVE locks on the overheads (if we can't get rid of them!!). The number of people who jump up and get things out as we taxi in is unbeli
45 M11Stephen : The people on this thread love to slam my ideas yet they don't have any ideas on what to do about this problem. I've taken trans-pacific, trans-atlan
46 Zippyjet : And don't forget the mile high club activities! Regarding carry on crap. I swear people think they are going on Survivor. They bring their whole path
47 DLD9S : Most things work faster when you are a teen. Give it a few decades.
48 Rikkus67 : Yes, I would feel SO much safer, knowing 100-300 other passengers ALL have guns on board.... I had an interesting discussion on a flight a few years
49 Kaiarahi : Last post, you said 1 minute. Not everyone has as small a bladder as you.
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