Propilot83 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 551 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 8636 times:
The Boeing 747 has been the most popular wide body jumbo over 40 years now and into the future. Its sad to hear that some airlines are replacing their 747-400's with newer 777 aircraft. The 747 is my favorite airliner of all times, and I know that the legacy of this gigantic airliner will continue long into the future, perhaps another 50-80 years down the road. Now with the newer 747-8 Intercontinental version, and more than 100 orders already placed, and with classic 747's still flying today......the jumbo jet will dominate the skies for quite some time longer....
WesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5395 posts, RR: 25 Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 8600 times:
Absolutely beautiful Classic 747 in South America's best airline and all around beautiful color scheme, Avianca.
Doesn't get any classier than that! Long Live the 747!!! (Although I do prefer the -100, -200 or the SP over the -800)
Woohoo! Back to Beirut in Oct '13! (Along with a stop in DOH for 4 days)
Elite From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2006, 2762 posts, RR: 10 Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 8569 times:
While there are 110 orders for the Boeing 747-8, most of them are for the 747-8 Freighter, and not the 747-8 Intercontinental. Lufthansa is still the only airline to order the 747-8I, and I hope that more airlines will follow.
AirNz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 8573 times:
Quoting Propilot83 (Thread starter): with the newer 747-8 Intercontinental
version, and more than 100 orders already placed
Have I missed something dramatic.....where did the "more than 100 orders...." for the 748i come from?
Quoting Propilot83 (Thread starter): The Boeing
747 has been the most popular wide body jumbo over 40 years now and into the future
Out of curiosity, how are you defining 'widebody' and 'jumbo' as they aren't mutually exclusive and thus it's difficult to say that the 747 has been 'the most popular'. Indeed, I fail to see how you can say it is the most popular into the future considering it is no longer manufactured and it's last passenger orders were years ago. It was/is a fantastic aircraft and I loved flying it but I'm honestly not sure of what exactly it is you're saying regarding it.
CanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3371 posts, RR: 10 Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 8554 times:
In my opinion, the Boeing 747 definately belongs on any list of the world's great airliners. Very innovative design for it's time, far outlasted many of the other designs of that era, a great airplane overall, and continues to be one of the most beautiful jetliners around. Says a lot about it when you consider that to much of the travelling public a BAe146, MD-80 and a 777 are all the same difference, but they would have no trouble recognizing a 747 when they see one. The 747 will always be the queen of the skies for me...
Burkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4268 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8535 times:
So Lufthansa knows they have you aboard the next decades! Happy flying.
Yes, I admire the 747 for its dominant role it had for decades, and its always majestic appearence. I love it like i love all 4 - holers over 3-holers over all that twin junk built for bean counters.
WesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5395 posts, RR: 25 Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8535 times:
Quoting CanadianNorth (Reply 5): The 747 will always be the queen of the skies for me...
Amen on that, and GREAT pic you have there! I miss CP Air and Canadian!
Woohoo! Back to Beirut in Oct '13! (Along with a stop in DOH for 4 days)
WesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5395 posts, RR: 25 Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8527 times:
AirNz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8510 times:
Quoting Jetfuel (Reply 9): Yes you have. These are orders placed by airlines
Have they indeed (strange that airlines would be ordering aircraft!!!)? In which case, please tell me which airlines have placed orders totalling more than 100 748i's?
747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3301 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8500 times:
My favotie airliner in the world!!!
Quoting Mul77W (Reply 3): Elite - Korean has ordered 747-8 Intercontinentals, albeit only 5 frames.
This is great news!!!!
It is too bad that UA decided to replace their 747 400s with A350XWB is stead of 747-8I. Do not get me wrong, I really like the 350XWB, but it not the Queen Of The Skies.
WesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5395 posts, RR: 25 Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8490 times:
Well, here is the first 747 I flew on, from JFK to ATH!
The first 747 I had ever been on, and in ATH no less!
Woohoo! Back to Beirut in Oct '13! (Along with a stop in DOH for 4 days)
Burkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4268 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 8243 times:
Quoting 747400sp (Reply 12): It is too bad that UA decided to replace their 747 400s with A350XWB is stead of 747-8I. Do not get me wrong, I really like the 350XWB, but it not the Queen Of The Skies.
I still am not sure there will be no aircraft bigger than the A350 with United. The decision against the 77W leaves space for a prime aircraft.
PITIngres From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 966 posts, RR: 12 Reply 16, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 8170 times:
Quoting AirNz (Reply 4): Have I missed something dramatic.....where did the "more than 100 orders...." for the 748i come from?
Quoting AirNz (Reply 11): In which case, please tell me which airlines have placed orders totalling more than 100 748i's?
The faux puzzlement was mildly amusing the first time...
Perhaps it would advance the discussion better to simply suggest to the OP that he is likely mixing the 747-8i with the 747-8F, as Elite did in reply 2.
I was already able to notice the difference between the -200s and the -400s as a 5 year old.
First trip on a 747 was from Frankfurt to Mexico City back in 1992 with Lufthansa, and it was a 747-400! I was so fascinated by this aircraft and have been ever since!
I also got to fly the 747-200 also with Lufthansa in the early 90s and again in 1999 and 2000 with Air Pacific
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 26961 posts, RR: 83 Reply 20, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8004 times:
Quoting Propilot83 (Thread starter): The Boeing 747 has been the most popular wide body jumbo over 40 years now and into the future.
Quoting AirNz (Reply 4): Out of curiosity, how are you defining 'widebody' and 'jumbo' as they aren't mutually exclusive and thus it's difficult to say that the 747 has been 'the most popular'.
Well the 747 family has, to date, has secured more orders and had more deliveries the A300/A310, the A330/A340, the A380, the DC10/MD11, the L1011, the IL-86, the IL-96, the 767 and the 777 families. All of which are considered widebodies and at least one of which is considered a "jumbo".
So it seems pretty clear that the 747, on the basis of both orders and deliveries to date, is the most popular "widebody" and "jumbo". I suppose if you really want to get pedantic and omit freighter frames, that might move the 777 or the A330/A340 into the lead for orders, but I doubt it would exceed the 747 passenger model on deliveries as of yet. And since you are adamant that "an order is not a sale", deliveries would be the most appropriate metric since "a delivery is a sale".
EBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 2 Reply 21, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7962 times:
Quoting Afterburner (Reply 17): Please, there have been enough posts and threads glorifying 747. They won't change the fact that 747's era is over now.
The 747 era isn't over until it's over. The fact that the 748F and 748i are going into service suggests to me that the 747 has many good years ahead of it. Let's not rule it out just because there's something newer and more modern in the skies.
747LUVR From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 392 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7793 times:
Need I say anything more than my username? lol. She's the Queen.
25 Jfk777: 747... Baby your are so special even other planes envy you. The A380 will never be as graceful.
26 AirNz: Actually no, I wasn't being even remotely pedantic in the slightest, disputing the fantastic aircraft the 747 is (I used to fly the bloody things so
27 Olympic472: We'll see how accurate this is: She will return to SFO soon as SQ may replace the 77W with their 744. If this materializes, SQ's move is something for
28 M11Stephen: I'm pretty sure that the 747 is the icon of aviation. Anytime a non-aviation enthusiast incorrectly identifies an airplane they always defaulty say, "
29 Tonymctigue: Well said! You summed up my sentiments better than I ever could myself. Trijets and Quadjets have that classic look from way back when the aviation w
30 Chinook747: and my username is a tribute to where I live and the aircraft I love the most
31 Aircellist: Similar for me. I had my first flight in a then almost new 747 with AF in 1970, I was not yet two years old... And I think I've got a faint memory of
33 Nwarooster: I do not think the Airbus A380 will ever live up the longevity, success and romance of the Boeing 747. It just won't be produced for 40 years.
34 VHECA: We must be twins (or close to it) as my first flight was similarily on a Qantas 747-200 in 1982 when I was 7. My Username is in honour of the Qantas
35 PacificClipper: No other aircraft can match the style, grace and jet-set glamour she introduced. Period. Need more? See my signature below.
37 VC10er: Watch....UA will order the 747-8i. A little birdie told me!!!
38 Astuteman: Not for the 748 Intercontinental In fairness to AirNz, Elite's clarification clearly didn't have the desired effect. Meanwhile, back on topic And in
39 AquariusHKG: The CP photo brings back memories..........and of Kai Tak too remember when I used to fly CP YVR - Kai Tak in fact the last time I'd fly into Kai Tak
40 WesternA318: The only time i lfew that route is when the real CP Air was still flying it with I believe 747-200s, but i could be wrong...CP always had this awesom
41 Propilot83: Great great posts from all of you. I love the 747 forever baby, forever live the Boeing 747 and the Boeing Company. The 747 is the dominion of the ski
42 AquariusHKG: That should be in the early 80's I believe? I don't think any 742 flew with Canadian Airline CP livery is beautiful, CPAir era or Canadian Airline er
43 WesternA318: I loved that last Canadian livery too, too bad I never got to see it up close or fly on it!
44 Cslusarc: I think that is wrong, 2 747-200M were delivered to AC and 4 747-200B were delivered to CP in the 1970s plus Wardair also ordered the 747-200B.
45 United Airline: They can still order the A 380 and/or the B 747-8i.
46 AquariusHKG: When I say "Canadian Airline" I was referring to Canadian Airlines International, CP between 1987 to 2001, not to Airlines in Canada 742 is flown by
47 Olympic472: Agree. My vote for the best livery on the 747-400.
48 1stfl94: I wonder how many of us had their first long haul trip on a 747?? Mine was from Heathrow to JFK in April 1999 on a BA 747 classic in the Landor colour
50 VC10er: The 747 is as important a contributor to develpment of civilization as the Internet, the railroads, the great ocean liners and the ATM machine, cellph
51 Viscount724: I would argue that the 707 and DC-8 did that (and other early jets) by cutting travel times virtually in half compared to the propeller aircraft they
52 Afterburner: What I mean is the era where 747 dominates the skies. The skies today are dominated by twins. Yeah, what airlines really need today is graceful airli
53 PC12Fan: Then why not have both with the 747-8i?
54 Afterburner: How many airlines in the world need aircraft as large as or larger than the 7478i? Most of the ones who do choose the A380 instead.
55 PC12Fan: Not many, and yet they still do.[Edited 2010-01-09 19:33:31]
56 Afterburner: Yes. However, the airlines need a lot more twins than quads. And the skies are full with twins.
57 SEPilot: Actually it is, but not by a large margin. The 747 has the highest cruising speed of any jetliner (with the possible exception of the Convair 880, I
58 ZKEOJ: I am one of them: 29 JUN 1983 FRA YYC LH B 747-200 28 JUL 1983 YVR FRA LH B 747-200 (D-ABYN) And subsequently 50 more flights on LH, AC, UA, MD, NZ (
59 Afterburner: Will 747-8 cruise faster, slower, or with the same speed than/as the earlier versions of 747?
60 Soon7x7: I place my $$$ on the 747-8,...I bet in five years the sales of it will out perform the A-380. When Boeing first introduced the 747 they bet the whole
61 Legacytravel: The 747 in my humble opinion the most graceful aircraft to grace the skies. I can remember my dad taking me to MKE and paying the .10 for the quick tr
62 Astuteman: It also flew a lot further too, which I guess was a large contributor to the "world-shrinking" If the cargo market explodes to overtake the passenger
63 Soon7x7: Sadly more often than not, when I go to JFK to shoot pix, I am seeing less and less 747 activity...I caught these yesterday...the old clunker 200 seri
64 Aircanada014: Ive always love flying 747-200/300. I've flown to LHR from YYZ, YYZ-BGI, LAX-YYZ, ORD-NRT etc
66 WesternA318: But the 747 doesn't need the multiple fuel stops the 707s and DC-8's did. OK, the early -100 models did, but those were quickly fixed with the uprate
67 Viscount724: True, although 707s and DC-8s regularly operated nonstop routes like LAX-LHR/CDG/FRA/CPH without problems. Few of today's longest nonstop routes woul
68 DocLightning: I think the -400 model is the most remarkable of them all because of what a leap it was in systems design. It was one of the very first aircraft with
69 VC10DC10: Uh, that would be Energizer... Duracell would be black and copper. And either one would have to sell a heckuva lot of batteries to justify that....
70 VC10er: Yes, the jet age in general made the world smaller than had ever been dreamed of. The 747 made it possible for far more people than anything else befo
71 WesternA318: Although I have to admit, a black and copper 747 would look intense! Or a DC-10...if you watch the Western Airlines commercials from the early 80's.
73 Alwaysontherun: Nope, and I´m glad it´s not. However this may be a tad optimistic: If you want a VLA.........A380 is the way to go. Look at the statistics. Number$
74 SEPilot: I believe that it is the same; the primary reason it is so fast is the wing sweep. With today's aerodynamics it is possible to get more speed with le
75 Soon7x7: Dang, I hate when that happens...you are correct... Only time will tell with the 747-8...needs to be in service for the true stats to come out...Stra
76 VHECA: I am another - QF 747-200 MEL-SIN-KUL 1982! Cheers VHECA
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