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BMI-Looking Into The Future (route-wise)  
User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1701 times:

I remember reading an article (can't remember which paper), mentioning BMI's intentions to serve routes in the East, such as Karachi, Dubai and Delhi.

Does anyone have any info on their future plans for expansion?

Do we all think that BMI has a future in operating to the above cities? (and perhaps Hong Kong?)

Or will they be expanding US ops first? How well are they placed to compete with Virgin & BA? (as well as other foreign competitors?)

Rgds,
CP

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User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1581 times:

Personally, with the codeshare agreement with UA, I don't think they will expand too much in the States as I'd have thought it more feesable to only serve afew of the major cities from MAN and have the others served with onward UA flights.

I think they will most probably add a couple more US cities from MAN to their route network and then concerntrate on flights to countries that the UK has strong ties with, from LHR (donno where they'd find the slots from!) I think the cities you've mentioned are possible, as is Australasia!


User currently offline747firstclass From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1557 times:

I read earlier today that they would love to start LGW-DEN service asap!! We shall see.

User currently offlineDemoose From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1952 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1546 times:

London Gatwick???? Where did u hear this? BMI don't opearte any flights from their at the moment so would this mean BMI would also start domestic and european services to Gatwick to feed the possible LGW-DEN service? If they are dying to start this service then why didn't they base the Washington and Chicago flights at Gatwick aswell?

DEM



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User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1545 times:

Yeah, I think it could be good for bmi to start US services ex-LGW, despite the fact that they don't fly to Gatwick now. They should certainly consider major cities not served by VS from London.

May I ask where you read that?
I'd have thought that there'd be enough traffic between DEN and LGW with the daily (?) BA B777 flight.


Cheers.


User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24909 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1534 times:

I heard it would be UA operating between LGW and DEN, and not bmi.
I would think bmi would start from MAN to cities such as New York and San Fransisco in the US however.



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User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1493 times:

Does anyone have a list of the routes bmi have the right to or have applied for?

Cheers,
Jamie.


User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24909 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1492 times:

Haven't they applied for Panama City?? Big grin


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User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1485 times:

Yep. They're certainly thinking of all possibilities and have applied fpr many 'unusual' routes including Panama City (Panama), Bogota (Columbia) and Caracus (Venezuala) from LHR!

User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32604 posts, RR: 72
Reply 9, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1478 times:

They want to fly to Miami, San Francisco, New York City, Los Angeles, and a few other cities from MAN, and, hopefully, LHR.


a.
User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24909 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1479 times:

I think they definitly should operate NCL-Panama City, the shipping trades would make this route viable!!


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User currently offlineAir Taiwan From Australia, joined Dec 1999, 1518 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1454 times:

MAN-BKK perhaps?? TG doesn't operate to MAN...

rgds
Jimmy


User currently offline747firstclass From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1452 times:

I was doing some work on the internet for my job today and stumbled upon an article from some British paper that said it was quite likely that they would start service from LGW-Denver. Unfortunately I did not bookmark the article, I will retrace my steps and see where I found it. When I do I will post it here so everyone can see it.

User currently offlineRojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2443 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1443 times:

They also apply to fly to Mexico City (MEX).
If they get a slot in LHR and they could start service to MEX BMI will make a lot of money. BA has packed flights from MEX-LHR. AeroMexico also applied to fly to London, but they want LHR not LGW, so they won´t start flights until they get one and that may take years.

Rojo


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1440 times:

They have the OK for Hong Kong already but they dont want to use it.

User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 376 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1438 times:

Karachi? Great! I hope they do, though BA are the designated carrier here but now with the changes in Pakistan's aviation policy who knows which carriers may show up, i would love to see bmi, Virgin, ANA, Asiana, Ansett and other such carriers fly here Smile


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User currently offlineSamurai 777 From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 2458 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1440 times:

What about Canada, into Toronto, Montreal or even Vancouver? Might BMI be looking at these Canadian cities?

User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1433 times:

Sir Micheal Bishop did metion Toronto from Edinbourgh in a recent press release.

User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32604 posts, RR: 72
Reply 18, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1385 times:

Looking into some of thier past PRs, they want to fly BOS-LHR, JFK-LHR, and MIA-LHR (and one more city. I think ORD or IAD). All cities are covered under BII, but, unfortunatley, bmi is not.


a.
User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1387 times:

According to Airliner World Sir Michael Bishop has expressed interest in BMI serving HKG, if possible.

This would see BMI purchasing the Airbus 340!!

Best of luck to them, I might try to get on a BMI flight from the US in September, if seats are available.

Cheers,
CP


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 22
Reply 20, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1375 times:

NCL-Panama City would make a ton for BMI as I reckon they could fill the cargo hold everey flight.Thanks,Alex

User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1368 times:

If there was a few bob to made in flying cargo between NCL and P.City, I suspect BMI would arrange Atlas to do the work for them-because I somehow doubt many Geordies would want to fly to Panama (except perhaps MI6!!) Big grin

I seriously see HKG and perhaps DEL & DXB as strong contenders-if BMI manages to get slots & capacity on hand. HKG via DXB could be a possibility, but I doubt it would be popular (but bear in mind the CX flight from MAN is not non-stop).

I would love to see BMI Airbus 340's flying into Asia and perhaps......South America (Brazil & Argentina??!!). Then again, is there a suitable demand for those flights out of MAN or even EDI??

As some people have said, BMI will probably want to focus on North America in the short-term.

Rgds,
CP


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1360 times:

I know that they have applied for ATL-MAN and ATL-LHR (depending upon a new open skies agreement) I forsee bmi opening up this route by late fall. The only other airline that flies to MAN from ATL is Delta, with 777 once daily. I think that bmi could really cut into Delta's monopoly on this route, and United would love to codeshare yet another Star Alliance flight out of ATL (they currently codeshare on Lufthansa's Atlanta-Frankfurt route).

User currently offlineIcebud From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1362 times:

I have heard that sir Michael Bishop is very keen on Edinburgh. I think BMI will be operating transatlantic flights grom EDI soon. Continental Airlines officials visited Edinburgh Airport last month to assess it's facilities with the view to starting EDI-EWR and so BMI might want to act quick. Air Transat's weekly EDI-YYZ flight is apparently very popular but I wouldn't have thought enough of a market for BMI from edinburgh. Probably New York. Any ideas on Edinburgh please?

User currently offlineBWIA330 From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1356 times:

Probably BMI can expand their services to the Caribbean. Hopefully they could fly into Tobago and pick up the slack left off by two airlines that are pulling their services out of TAB. Those two airlines are JMC Airways and Condor Airlines. The A330-200 would look nice in Tobago.

25 Englandair : I don't think they'd fly to the Caribbean in the near future as business class passengers produce the most £££ for airlines, and the Caribean is ma
26 GKirk : Do UA have a big presence in ATL? If not, I think bmi would be best staying away from there, espeially from MAN where the DL flight is doing great, bu
27 DeltAirlines : UA has a few flights from ATL, but compete with DL on every route they have, and Frontier and AirTran on most of these too. Jeff
28 GKirk : bmi should definitly stay clear of ATL then. Go to IAD,ORD,JFK,BOS maybe and SFO.
29 Mah4546 : LHR-MAN has to be carefully done. Since they codeshare with UA, they should do IAD-MAN and ORD-MAN as they currently do. SFO-MAN could connect with UA
30 Post contains links and images Capt.Picard : As far as services to Asia are concerned, I think BMI would rather fly it's own a/c from either London or MAN, to destinations which may include DEL,
31 AndyEastMids : I don't think LHR slots will be a huge issue for bmi's long haul operations, if they start long haul ops from there. For most long haul routes they wo
32 Post contains images Capt.Picard : Andy, Assuming BMI are given clearence to start up longhaul ops from LHR, which shorthaul slots do you think BMI will swap (for LH slots?) Do you thin
33 Caribb : Just look at where the Star Alliance world hubs are and you wil see where BMI is probably looking...
34 Johnnybgoode : what about a MAN-LAX service????? UA is very big at LAX, too. however, for connecting pax SFO is the more ideal solution. i´m just wondering if bmi p
35 AndyEastMids : CP, No definitive information, but you've already seen that BMI is prepared to juggle slots and drop routes to operate different services. They certai
36 Capt.Picard : Thanks for the info Andy-I guess LHR's congestion doesn't really help things! Rgds, CP
37 Fax : Andy bmi-British midland have made a commitment to LBA for the next 5 years which means that they will maintain the LHR service as is. In fact they ar
38 Capt.Picard : Just an update from Flight International, which I received in the mail today: "Bishop is adamant that the next stage of LH expansion will be from LHR,
39 Johnnybgoode : what kind of expansion could lufthansa plan from LHR? certainly, further expansion of bmi will happen in cooperation with many of the star members, bu
40 AndyEastMids : I think when people have mentioned LH in this context, they mean Long Haul and not Lufthansa, Andy
41 Post contains images Capt.Picard : Johnny, You've been bamboozled by my abbreviations! I apologise, when typing "LH" I mean "longhaul" NOT Lufthansa. Cheers, CP
42 Englandair : "If LHR transatlantic access continues to elude it, BMI has a fall-back option of flying to other LH destinations from the London airport such as Sout
43 Capt.Picard : Hi Englandair, I think that the fact that there are so many airlines serving South Africa from the UK (well, 3!) reflects an enormous demand for capac
44 Post contains images Johnnybgoode : i was always wondering, now i got it!!!!!!! daniel
45 Englandair : Well they do sort of, but like VS, they're advertising it as a business class with a business class price. All they need to do is advertise their prod
46 Post contains images Capt.Picard : Some more info; I plugged in some figures into a Time & Distance calculator; the conclusion was that BMI could fly non-stop to JNB with the A330-200,
47 Post contains links Capt.Picard : PS: The Time & Distance calculator can be found at http://www.ar-group.com/calc.htm, and the performance figures for the A332 were obtained from the A
48 Englandair : Cheers for telling us that CP.
49 Englandair : Why would bmi be interested in DEL, because last I heard, VS aren't doing too well on the route (and that's an AI codeshare)?
50 Post contains images Capt.Picard : Hi Englandair, I read that in Flight International, quite a while ago. It's not my opinion, just passing on the speculations! BTW, I am quite surprise
51 Englandair : Hi CP, Yeah, I was supprised too when I read it, especially because it's an AI codeshare so Id' have thought they'd get quite a few Indian pax too. Is
52 Jaysit : Apparently VS are going full on their Delhi flights and doing pretty well even in upper class. I'm not sure where you got your info from. The Del-Lhr
53 Englandair : I would have read that either here or on Pprune. Thanks for clearing it up!
54 BDRules : are they or will they start looking at Longhaul ops from EMA as i havent heard wether they have applied for any regards BDRules
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